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It wasn't even concluded she fired the guy because of the trooper or that she ever put pressure on that herself.
I heard the whole rundown of FOX news, where they read the key portions, and it doesn't even copme close to the threshold of any llevel of scandal.
But enjoy it if you must.
Posted by Ben | October 10, 2008 8:58 PM
>>>>I heard the whole rundown of FOX news, where they read the key portions, and it doesn't even copme close to the threshold of any llevel of scandal.
Ahhh, well, you can read the report. It's not that long (the part relating to the abuse of power). Do that and come back to tell us you still believe she did nothing, then we can talk. Until then, it's just something you saw on TV... like Gilligan's Island...
oops. I said I'd stop.
Posted by PdxMark | October 10, 2008 9:15 PM
I heard the whole rundown of FOX news your first mistake, where they read the key portions as decided by who, Larry Ailes?
Posted by mp97303 | October 10, 2008 9:21 PM
Fox news covered it pretty well. The lines about "Palin betraying the public trust etc", her husband and other trying to get the trooper fired and Palin not stopping them.
Where's the real abuse?
You want abuse of power?
How about Mayor Potter firing a cop who is later returned to the force when Potter is shown to have been wrong.
Potter then abused his power and paid the family of the so-called victim of the cop $200,000.00 so the Mayor could pretend he was right.
Posted by Ben | October 10, 2008 9:32 PM
Ben--You mean the cop who shot a guy without provocation, other than being parked in front of his sister's house? Firing him was one of Potter's better moves. It was the inflexible police union that abused its power.
Getting news from Fox is like getting nutrition from McDonald's.
Posted by Gil Johnson | October 10, 2008 9:56 PM
Nothing Sarah Palin did hurts her as a Republican candidate. She's proven herself to be a self-righteous moron with no real grasp of science, the law, the Bush Doctrine, or much else. Abuse of power was the missing part of her qualifications so she is now ready to be the successor to George W.
What really is over the top is hearing the right wing talking accomplices whine that America might not survive if we don't elect another Republican. This from the party that gave us Ronald Reagan, and W. - the party whose insane financial policies brought us to the abyss.
Sarah Palin is a joke.
The only thing Republicans ever wanted to regulate was our freedom.
Posted by Bill McDonald | October 10, 2008 10:26 PM
"the party whose insane financial policies brought us to the abyss."
Yeah sure. And the left's push to make lenders hand out mortgages to those who don't qulaify had nothing to do with it.
And Frank and Dodd defending Fannie and freedie didn't either?
Or the governments Mark to Mark accounting?
"Sarah Palin is a joke"
But our Governor isn't I suppose?
I'd like to see what he would have answered about the "Bush Doctrine".
How about our local politicians?
"The only thing Republicans ever wanted to regulate was our freedom"
Oh brother. What freedoms?
There's nothing more strangling of our freedoms than the left's parade of socialism.
Hunting, fishing, logging, ATV, mining, drilling, driving, religious expression,
property rights, free speech, gun rights,
school choice, initiative petitioning,
just to whip out a few.
You obvioulsy don't have the slightest idea what Palin grasps but fill in the blanks yourself.
Obama on the other hand is a far left radical who will certainly drive out country into expanded socialism like many libs want.
That really was what the subprime mortgage stunt was about. Libs trying to extend the entitlement class to homeownership. Nice work that turned out to be. Much like the other mothers of all debacles. SS wildly expanded and unfunded, Medicare with 20-25% fraud, Prescription drug coverage without means testing, and billion handed over to illegal aliens.
And what's the answer to our current collapse? The unqualified Obama says more massive spending on more programs.
Oh well.
Posted by Ben | October 11, 2008 12:10 AM
I dunno. it isn't as vicious as ken starr, but it do seem more political than legal.
Palin is indeed a joke. Let's hope she never gets to be as funny as Cheney.
Posted by moderate person | October 11, 2008 12:17 AM
That really was what the subprime mortgage stunt was about. Libs trying to
extend the entitlement class to homeownership.
Too funny. Ben, reading your posts is much more efficient than listening to Lars Larson, where it all comes from. But it's over, man. You guys are done, for at least four years.
Sarah Palin -- too funny.
Posted by Jack Bog | October 11, 2008 12:18 AM
The finding of ethical impropriety/abuse of power on Palin's part won't alter the opinions of the hardcore knuckle draggers who come to her rallys, etc. because she will always walk on water in their eyes...no matter what. Hopefully, it will sway the independent voter fence sitters Obama's way. People who bothered to investigate her outside the mainstream media at the outset knew that she was unfit within 24 hours of her selection. Findings like this one will hopefully bring unflattering information about her into the mainstream media where these undecided voters will get more than the usual positive 30 second soundbite with a pretty face and few folksy platitudes coupled with a poorly articulated attack on Obama. She's a petty and vindictive person and people need to know that about her. This hopefully takes her and McCain off the offensive and onto the defensive where they belong, but the story will most likely run out of any steam it gathers by Monday.
Posted by Usual Kevin | October 11, 2008 2:48 AM
If you're going to stand by while President Bush seizes the ultimate power to run America, you can't try and blame Congress for how America was run, even though the spineless weasels on the Hill are accountable for not putting up more of a fight to remove this dictatorial regime.
Here's the system we've been living under: President Bush has asserted the right to ignore any bill passed by Congress. I'm not saying he vetoes the bill. He signs it, often in a public ceremony, but then he goes back into the Oval Office and puts his signature on a signing statement that states he will ignore the law based on his powers as President. That is a monarchy.
For the right wing to cheerlead this guy as he destroyed our system of government, along with Cheney, who believes he is outside the executive branch one day and outside the legislative branch the next, is an indictment of the neo-conservative movement. They are not patriots - they are enemies of the American form of government.
To hear their minions run around screaming about how America is at risk now is a classic attempt to dodge responsibility for what they have done.
If you supported President Bush these last years you are an accomplice in the near-destruction of America. It's irrefutable. Just take the signing statements alone if you don't know where to look.
The positive thing about all this is that our system didn't fail. From the elections to the coup that followed, the system was criminally overridden and I'm not surprised the results have been this bad. Freedom is the best system, and by destroying America's freedom, the Bush administration was asking for failure and boy, did they get it.
And how was it all sold? To keep us safe from terrorism. Well, after what Bush and his accomplices have done to America, the only thing the terrorists regret is that he can't serve a third term.
Posted by Bill McDonald | October 11, 2008 5:58 AM
But Bill: Obama used to know a guy who, before he knew him, did something bad.
Posted by Allan L. | October 11, 2008 6:28 AM
On November 5, Palin needs to give a press conference and announce to the assembled mob that "you won't have Sarah Palin to kick around any more."
Posted by joel dan walls | October 11, 2008 8:01 AM
This is great news for the McCain camp! Good work, Sarah!
This only highlights how utterly idiotic her selection by McCain was--so much for the vetting process.
She is the campaign gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by Charlie | October 11, 2008 8:08 AM
Time for McBush to take a dose of Palinex.
Posted by joel dan walls | October 11, 2008 8:11 AM
Oh my friends how you imagine.
You've imagined Palin into a boogeygal.
Yes this subprime mortgage stunt was about. Libs trying to
extend the entitlement class to homeownership.
And an Obama POTUS and Dem congress will attempt to extend health care entitlement the same way.
But how is it that you imagine that thought of mine comes from Lars Larson? That's far funnier than you think Palin is. That seems to be almost a default position. To just make up things. Could it not be that Lars got it from me? Of course that whole take on how the distribution happens is ridiculous.
But it's not over, yet. And I'll wager if McCain wins the left may be done from your own internal combustion.
The finding of ethical impropriety/abuse of power on Palin's part won't alter the opinions of people outside the Olberman class because the charge and opinion is just another inflated caricature. And talk about knuckle draggers who come to rallys, etc. It's Obama who has been viewed as walking on water.
Hacks attacking Palin within 24 hours of her selection are still wallowing in the same "findings" like this non scandal.
Calling HER a petty and vindictive person is stunning demonstration of calling another what the accusers certainly are.
"This hopefully takes her and McCain off the offensive".
Again your imaginations are amazing.
This story has no steam to run out of but if you tune into Olberman you'll get the mental massage you enjoy.
What does this Klingon mean?
"If you're going to stand by while President Bush seizes the ultimate power to run America, you can't try and blame Congress for how America was run"
Stand by? Seize the ultimate power?
The weasels on the Hill are accountable for putting up budgets, policies and the subsequent chaos.
The idea that Bush and Chaney destroyed our system of government is another wild assertion.
I suppose if Obama is elected the system magically returns the next day?
It'a amazing that you would claim neo-conservatives are enemies of the American form of government when it is the left and Obama movement who would change it forever. .
It's irrefutable.
"elections, the coup,,, then the system was criminally overridden, and destroying America's freedom= failure the Bush administration caused.
Glad you cleared that up.
But the terrorists would have Bush serve a third term? Wow.
Obama has hung with many radicals who helped him move up the political ladder.
Obama himself is a radical. But then he isn't seen as one by other radicals.
"so much for the vetting process" ?
So we know today exactly what we know the vetting revealed yet the vetting wasn't adequate?
Hopefully she'll be the VP that keeps on giving too.
The last thing we need is the radical Obama.
Posted by Ben | October 11, 2008 9:49 AM
Obama was #1 in his class at Harvard Law School and taught constitutional law for 12 years.
Sarah Palin didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was, but that wasn't the scary part. It was how she reacted the way someone who is trying to hide being dumb reacts.
The signing statements, Ben. Tell us what the signing statements mean. Hundreds and hundreds of them - bills passed by Congress, signed into law by the President , but then overridden with a signing statement. What does that mean to you?
Let's say there was a Republican Congress passing the bill and Obama signed it and then canceled it? Would you object more if it wasn't your side?
This is not some theory. It has happened with hundreds of laws passed by our representative government. How do you explain that? How do you call that American?
Posted by Bill McDonald | October 11, 2008 10:07 AM
What the Troopergate Report really says: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849399,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner
Posted by John Kauffman | October 11, 2008 10:45 AM
So the radical Obama was #1 in his class at Harvard Law School and taught constitutional law for 12 years. He also worked evolved into the left wing radical, near Marxist he is.
Sarah Palin didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was.
What a lame mention that is. As if the current country electeds would all know which doctrine and answer that asinine question better?
I'd wager that at least 60% would answer no better and the rest would have had a whole spectrum of different answers.
How you find that doctrine bit scary is what's scary.
As for her "trying to hide being dumb" ? Like I said that question was so loaded it's laughable. She wasn't hiding anything. But you have your take.
The signing statements, Bill. Tell us what they mean to because they don't mean squat to me. . Tell us how rare this is. Tell us that prior presidents never did this.
Everything the Bush administration has done means some evil doing to you.
Including some 911 ides.
"Let's say there was a Republican Congress passing the bill and Obama signed it and then canceled it?"
Why is it that you wouldn't have given me one example out of hundreds of Bills that Bush canceled and what it means.
A Bill signed into law, and then Bush signs a statement nullifying it.
Well google me this.
The truth is Bill, these signing statements?,,they've been used by American Presidents for about 200 years. These signing statements--edicts used by the president to declare his intent to construe a provision within a law differently than Congress.
So we have Conyers, Byrd and others piling on Bush with this garbage claiming Bush's use of them has exceeded his predecessors in number and severity.
So what do I think of the Bush signing statements?
Not much.
But I'm not a member of the Impeach Bush crowd. Or the prosecute Bush for Murder crowd.
For 200 years these signing statements have been used by American presidents. So yes I'd call that pretty American.
Did you know about the 200 year part or did you leave that out deliberately?
Posted by Ben | October 11, 2008 11:17 AM
"What a lame mention that is. As if the current country electeds would all know which doctrine and answer that asinine question better?"
And they're not running for VP, now are they? The Bush Doctrine seems like something a candidate of that magnitude should know, wouldn't you agree?
Posted by Brandon | October 11, 2008 12:40 PM
Ben,
I read all about this in the Boston Globe when the story first broke. Unlike Sarah Palin, I actually read newspapers. Historians see this as an unprecedented expansion of presidential power. President Bush believes he is not just above the law - he is the law.
Now that you're taking an interest in President Bush's abuse of power, look into the rest of it. The torture, the illegal invasion, the lying us into war.
How about him listening in as our soldiers talk to their loved ones at home with illegal wiretapping of American citizens? Are you proud of that as an American? Are you so worried about being safe that you'd give up our right to privacy? Do you want the government listening to the thoughts in your head if they could? Would that be okay with you?
Ask yourself what it would take for a president to be impeached. Okay, we all know oral sex is one way, but think of the others. Then see if President Bush did any of them. That could take you a lot less time than googling what's gone on these last 8 years.
Oh, and the "Obama is a radical" stuff? You can't back that up. You've been programmed to think that. The biggest radical in recent American History is Dick Cheney. He actually believes he is outside the Constitutional branches of power depending on what scam he's running that day.
Where is Dick by the way? If you people are so proud of the job you've done, why are you hiding him from the public right now? The president of North Korea has been more visible than Dick Cheney in this campaign. If you're so happy with this administration why not drag him out? Who knows? Maybe his undisclosed location got foreclosed on.
Posted by Bill McDonald | October 11, 2008 12:46 PM
Much confusion has been generated by the legislative report's seemingly inconsistent findings that Palin abused her power, but that there was nothing "improper" about Monaghan's firing. The finding validating the firing appears to be premised on decisions holding that at will employees may be terminated without good cause or for any cause..
Branchwater may have overlooked the Alaska Supreme Court's recent recognition of the "public interest" exception to the "at will" employment contract rule. See the November 2, 2007, opinion in Miller v. Safeway and its discussion of the covenant of good faith and fair dealing implied in all contracts, including "at will" employment contracts.
Posted by Richard Koppel in CA | October 11, 2008 3:16 PM
Maxine Waters, a key Democrat congresswoman that has been implicated in blocking government oversight that could have prevented the current financial crisis, was caught lying Friday evening about her connection to failed lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
On HBO's "Real Time".
By a guy from The Wall Street Journal.
Sweet.
I blame Bush.
Posted by Stuart | October 11, 2008 4:00 PM
Wow. Some podunk congresswoman lied? Better vote for John McCain.
It's fun to watch you guys go nuts as Barack Hussein Obama becomes President. Bwahahaha!
Posted by Jack Bog | October 11, 2008 4:09 PM
Palin is not qualified for the job. Got it. Obama is a radical. Check. All I KNOW is that this country is in a world of hurt and we are now in a world wide financial crisis. Dem? Repub? Who cares? Both parties are culpable in the mess we are in now. Read everything, right and left, and impartial. Watch and listen to both right and left sided stations. Tune in to 620 a.m., then listen to Lars. Watch Kavuto and then tune in to CNN. Decide on what is truth and what is spin and biased.
Be scared of both parties. Why are we still arguing about which candidate is best? The country has been hijacked and there is a foreclosure sign on the USA.
If anyone thinks McCain and Palin are going to save us, they're nuts. Anyone who thinks Obama (sing along with Obama song "Obama's gonna change the world") they are more nuts.
We have been duped and it is one big mess. Sorry to be so negative, but the argument over which party is best seems sort of moot right now. They both SUCK and are both dangerous.
Posted by Livin La Vida Suburbia | October 11, 2008 5:40 PM
My primary concern at this point is that whoever is elected does not make things worse. In my opinion, the McCain campaign's negative, jingoistic and aggressive attitudes and disinclination to recognize that deregulation has caused much of our problems signal danger. I do not even want to consider a scenario where McCain may be incapacitated and Palin named Commander In Chief.
An Obama administration - in fact, NO administration - can cure all of our problems and whoever is elected is going to have a huge task before them. Whoever it may be will almost certainly be blamed for a situation that they can't solve within 4 years (and which they were not solely responsible for creating).
We need realism, a spirit of optimism and an emphasis on community from the ground up.
With the election weeks away, we desperately need well-reasoned explanations and answers, not personal attacks.
Posted by NW Portlander | October 11, 2008 6:39 PM
Bill Mcdonald is the joke.
How do you feel about giving your ten year old stepson the taser? If that happened in portland their would be hell to pay
Posted by Ace | October 11, 2008 7:05 PM
I've always wondered why it is that repressives almost always end their remarks with this:
Wow. Some podunk congresswoman lied? Better vote for John McCain.
It's fun to watch you guys go nuts as Barack Hussein Obama becomes President. Bwahahaha!
That whole Bwahahaha thing. Is that some sort of secret handshake?
Posted by snuzes.gw | October 11, 2008 8:53 PM
It's a hot button activator for "you guys".
It only works on the most passionate though.
Posted by genop | October 12, 2008 10:06 AM
I see that the crazies are out in force. I wonder how many of them are from the radical wing of the Alaskan Independence Party. Oops! Can you have a radical wing if the entire membership is radical?
Posted by Richard J Koppel in CA | October 12, 2008 5:08 PM