Would you believe vote-by-email?
If, like us, you think Oregon's vote-by-mail system invites abuse, think about what it would be like if votes were being cast by e-mail. They're actually talking about doing that in New Jersey, where parts of the state remain crippled by Hurricane Sandy. According to published reports, voters can e-mail the county requesting a ballot, and one will be sent to them electronically. They can then fill it out and e-mail it back. People would never impersonate someone else on the internet.
But confusion reigns, as the mayor of Newark says the reports are incorrect:
In addition, some officials have said they're also going to accept any snail mail ballot postmarked by Tuesday, even if it is not received until two weeks from tomorrow. Expect nothing but chaos, and accusations to fly for weeks in any race in which the results are close.
Here in Oregon, the integrity of vote-by-snail-mail is being rightly called into question like never before, with trouble on three different fronts: alleged ballot tampering in Clackamas County, police stopping canvassers from collecting filled-in ballots from strangers, and startling questions about the status of ballots mailed without postage. It's a mess, and the problems are surfacing in the midst of a hotly contested race for the state's highest election official, the secretary of state.
It's pretty disappointing how little genuine choice we are offered in our elections. Do you want the red or the blue version of corporate rule? But the least we could do is come up with a system of vote collection and counting whose accuracy people can trust. America put a man on the moon, but sadly, it can't do something as simple as that.
UPDATE, 1:45 p.m.: The New Jersey vote-by-email event is on. Mayor Booker has reversed his earlier Tweet:
Comments (14)
We lost a lot when we quit going to the polls to vote in person. We traded convenience for ceremony and the sense of duty and responsibility one feels by taking time on one special day to make decisions about how we want to be governed. The goal appears to be getting everyone to vote rather than emphasizing history, civics and what good governance is or can be.
In the end though, the machines that count the ballots have to be secure. You are not going to be able to check this on a surveillance camera.
Posted by Honest Landlord | November 4, 2012 6:28 AM
I don't trust the electronic computerized voting machines either!
Posted by Portland Native | November 4, 2012 7:19 AM
I suspect voters may someday have their own voter registration accounts like a credit card they can use to vote and manage online.
They could enter their votes over time changing them as often as they wish up until the 8:00 pm deadline.
They could also electronically sign initiatives and referendums.
Posted by Mitch | November 4, 2012 7:33 AM
The fact is lost on a lot of people that computers and internet access are not universal even in America...and if you have no electricity, your computer is just a pile of trash, completely unusable and worthless.
At least vote-by-mail, along with polling places, don't discriminate against the haves and have-nots. Polling places offer the option of "vote-by-mail" or alternate arrangements, if made in advance, for people who cannot get to a polling place. Nearly everyone has some kind of a mailing address, even the homeless can get a mailing address for the most part.
Unless the government is going to make computer/internet use as ubiquitous as the blue mail box, there is a better way.
Posted by Erik H. | November 4, 2012 7:34 AM
I recall the fracas when Steve Trout was brought here years ago -- and it appears that the concerns about him were well founded. Instead of working to ensure that every ballot cast is counted -- which is his job -- he is on a one man crusade to save the USPS and the Federal Treasury a few thousand bucks by disenfranchising voters. Although I voted for Brown, I am reminded of the old chestnut:
"First rate people hire first rate people; Second rate people hire third rate people."
Posted by Old Zeb | November 4, 2012 8:47 AM
The goal appears to be getting everyone to vote rather than emphasizing history, civics and what good governance is or can be.
I find it fascinating (and telling) that you see these things as diametrically opposed, and I'll just leave it at that.
Posted by Dave J. | November 4, 2012 8:55 AM
The goal appears to be getting everyone to vote ...
And it would appear that it's not succeeding.
Posted by John Rettig | November 4, 2012 10:40 AM
I wonder if Jon Corzine can make 1.6 billion votes disappear, too. Glad he survived his car wreck, upset that he's not cooling his heels in Federal prison. No Banksters (of either stripe) are. Why is that?
No really, four years later: Why is that?
Remember, when you support the guy in charge, you also vote for his biggest bundler, Corzine, this stealer of $1.6 billion in client funds, this climax of the Banksters.
Posted by Downtown Denizen | November 4, 2012 12:08 PM
At least with mail-in we are spared this kind of outrage, and the vote suppression is pushed to the back room.
Posted by Allan L. | November 4, 2012 1:49 PM
Although I voted for Brown
Which makes you part of the problem.
Posted by Jack Bog | November 4, 2012 1:50 PM
I voted absentee in Clark County Washington by EMAIL! I simply scanned my voter affidavit, secrecy cover sheet (never really understood what this was doing) and my ballot into a single pdf and emailed to the county elections office. Voila! Done!
Posted by Nate Conrad | November 4, 2012 1:59 PM
Whaddaya mean, "come up with a system of vote collection and counting whose accuracy people can be trust"? We already did.
That system is: Paper ballots hand counted. Vote-by-Mail has the first half of that.
There is neither paper ballots nor hand counting of enough citizen votes to set up a majority of Electoral College electors.
The 'system people can trust,' instead was taken away from people by KarlRove-pushed passage of HAVA (Help America Vote Act) for federal dollars buying computer-programmed Touch-the-TV voting machinery in dense-population voting regions and states; (over half the Electoral College count).
More New Jersey urbanity:
Murdoch's NY Post To Gov. Christie: Politicize Hurricane Sandy. Or Else, Media Matters, ERIC BOEHLERT, Nov. 4, 2012
The greatest Election2012 thing might be Christie insisting on Principle to elect by paper ballots hand counted, and coming down to delaying the Obama v. Romney decision in NJ electoral votes ... until NJ hand counting is done accurate and trustworthy.
Throw away the computer program machinery -- France, Spain, Italy, Scotland did, and other countries too, when US'Aid' dumped the devices in Euro elections -- saying, 'No thank you, Uncle Sam, we reject your free money & machinery for our ballot counts.'
Throwing away, monkey-wrenching, or Mother Nature dousing the electric power, whatever removes computer programming from counting ballots is a good thing.
The bum's rush on our ballots -- Hurry Up and Count, Bush's powermongers can't wait for truth, in FLA 2K -- gets hardly massmedia news in the Hurry Up Don't Look for 2012. ... until Supercane Sandy knocked out the Hurri-, turned out the lights and precluded thousands of pre-programmed votes. Internet activity [ e.g. BradBlog.COM ] spreading the news of malware 'voting' has been frustrated by the massmedia blackout of it up to a week and an accidental hurricane before the Election, and can be scorched by short-attn.'Muricans forgetting all about it the day after. Snoozing and bamboozled citizens could at least honor (and marvel) knowing the story of the Master (and martyr) of Malware Mayhem: The suspicious, disturbing death of election rigger Michael Connell, by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman, Columbus OH Free Press, December 20, 2008, et seq.
And then (citizens) go back to snoozing and 'moving on, bamboozled by nothing to see.' And probably explaining (today, in advance) why Gov.Christie has gotta do what he's gotta do, in his precincts some 'offers' canNOT be refused. Or else. Ditto some 'non-offers'. Paper ballots hand counted is NOT offered on the table and NOT offered in the polling booth ... as a matter of principle. The pulling-a-fast-one principle.Whoever expects such illegal brazen vote-rigging can be taken to Court should consider facing a Court Judge elected by the very same vote-rigging machinery.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Supreme_Court_election,_2011
Posted by Tenskwatawa | November 4, 2012 2:55 PM
Which makes you part of the problem.
Mea culpa.
Posted by Old Zeb | November 4, 2012 3:37 PM
I just voted by email this evening and my kneejerk reaction is to keep it to overseas voting. Waiving your right to a closed ballot should only ever be a lesser of two evils type of deal. The voter fraud potential seems through the roof.
Posted by Andrew S | November 5, 2012 6:54 AM