For health care, trust your doctor, or the Pope?
The nuns at Providence Hospital seem to be going with the latter. They won't distribute the Street Roots health resource guide because it dares to list Planned Parenthood as a provider. Whatever, Sister Edna.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Eugenics
Posted by Downtown Denizen | August 23, 2012 5:11 PM
It must come as a shock to some that nuns actually take their Catholic faith seriously and provide health care consistent with their faith and morality.
Planned Parenthood is the nation's largest provider of abortion (killing the unborn) and was founded by the racist Margaret Sanger.
Posted by John | August 23, 2012 5:48 PM
The "Margaret Sanger was a racist!" defense has to be one of the most moronic of all talking points, and more than 50 years after her death! Its like arguing the States should disband because George Washington owned slaves.
Posted by Chuck | August 23, 2012 6:18 PM
Fine, if you do not believe in abortion....don't have one. But do not dictate to and enforce your religious beliefs upon the majority of people in the United States.
Posted by Portland Native | August 23, 2012 6:23 PM
Not to mention most would take a racist over a cabal of child molestors and their enablers.
Posted by Chuck | August 23, 2012 6:24 PM
I thought the comments here were a little harsh. Then I went back to the linked article, where the comments were even sharper.
We live in a country that allows conscientious objectors to skip our wars, but somehow we can't tolerate people who hold a reasoned moral position different from our own.
I favor abortion rights, and am glad we are beyond the time when churches were so powerful they could write laws based on their non-shared beliefs. But I don't believe in forcing people who have those beliefs to act against them. Where there is no middle ground, can't we just agree to not agree.
Posted by niceoldguy | August 23, 2012 6:52 PM
I've always thought it odd how the Pro Choice crowd is all for choice, as long as that choice is one they agree with.
Posted by tankfixer | August 23, 2012 7:01 PM
There are probably a thousand other resource guides that list Planned Parenthood for their services. Why the outrage that Sisters of Providence won’t distribute the Street Roots guide. Really, big deal, come on liberal lefties get mad at something that really matters.
Posted by John Benton | August 23, 2012 7:13 PM
The nuns are already fighting off the church patriarchy. Don't need to add any more fuel to that fire.
Posted by Irene | August 23, 2012 7:16 PM
It would be a lot worse in, say, Clatsop County, where the Sisters of Providence operate the ONLY hospital. The nearest alternative is 50 miles away (Longview or Tillamook).
In Portland there is quite a bit of healthcare choice. Yes there are the Providence hospitals. There is Legacy (non-denominational), Portland Adventist Medical Center, Kaiser Permanente (non-denominational), PeaceHealth Southwest Washington Medical Center, and of course the government-owned-and-operated Oregon Health and Sciences University.
Posted by Erik H. | August 23, 2012 7:49 PM
BTW, I respect the decision of the hospital, inasmuch as it's their house. They should do as they like.
Posted by Chuck | August 23, 2012 7:56 PM
Good rant here about the loss of "tolerance" in our society.
Reducing Hate by Restoring Tolerance
Posted by Mr. Grumpy | August 23, 2012 7:59 PM
Funny, they forgot to give me the catechism and religion-based restrictions on the health care I was paying for when I signed up with Providence. Really glad I switched to another provider now. Maybe the very religious ought to avoid working in fields that bring them into fundamental conflict with their beliefs, like health care, the military, defense contracting, stripping, bartending and the like.
Posted by Cary | August 23, 2012 8:10 PM
How much federal money do the nuns take?
Posted by Jack Bog | August 23, 2012 9:46 PM
About 60% of abortions are done by minority women. Half of that is black women. Racist, I don't know. Sad? Very sad.
3 cheers to the sisters standing up for all women!
Posted by mcinor | August 24, 2012 12:00 AM
"how much federal money...."
Well Jack, as you are still working and I am on the Social Security dole, I am taking some of your money in a sense. And thank you, but I do reject your authority to therefore decide great moral questions for me. or force out all the minority views our system of government is designed to protect.
And as you know, by taking all that money, the hospitals agree to treat all comers, whether they can pay or not. including heathens and heretics. Would we really be better off without the Providence Hospitals?
Now it is true, and I confess a problem for me, that in the 60s, when the questions involved racial oppression and Jim Crow, I argued the other way, that the federal government can attach strings to federal aid even though that suppressed the majority view of a minority of states on a core belief.
No wonder Madison and the rest had such problems working out balances.
Side note to Erik about Clatsop hospitals: As far as I know, Columbia Memorial is still open in Astoria.
Posted by niceoldguy | August 24, 2012 12:23 AM
Providence is a great organization. They oppose abortion. Why on earth should they receive any criticism for that?
Texas, BTW, got the circuit court to agree to their stripping state funding from Planned Parenthood, and by God, Planned Parenthood might just have to scale back their free abortions cool-aid stand there.
Posted by Gaye Harris | August 24, 2012 7:34 AM
Erik H. must not have spent much time in Clatsop County, or Astoria, as he has missed Columbia Memorial Hospital in Astoria which is much easier seen than the hospital in Seaside. There's also a hospital across the river in Ilwaco. Both closer than 50 miles.
Posted by Sam L. | August 24, 2012 8:30 AM
Perhaps if decent and accurate sex ed and contraception were readily available to all, then abortion (which is a lousy form of birth control) would be more rare.
Posted by Portland Native | August 24, 2012 2:18 PM