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Friday, August 17, 2012

Buried in the Friday night news

Do you believe this line of malarkey?

Clary said he saw Simms put his left hand on the steering wheel. At some point, Clary, who was looking at Simms through an open front passenger window of the car, said he saw Simms reach down with his right hand.

"And he starts to reach around like he's fishing around. And I can't tell what he's doing, but it worries me," Clary testified.

"I'm like, 'Oh, my God, he's reaching for a gun,'" Clary told the jury.

Clary said when Simms' right arm "starts to raise up" and "reaches to a certain level at that door is when I fired."

He said he fired two quick bursts of rounds.

"That's when it seems like he just laid on the accelerator," Clary said.

Clary said he was unable to warn Simms that he would be shot if he didn't follow police commands. Police are trained to do so, if feasible.

"This all evolved so rapidly, that I didn't, I didn't have the time to express those amount of words even," Clary testified.

We're sorry, but we don't buy any of it. Not that it matters. This is being handled by the Schrunk-Underhill Multnomah County DA's office, which never indicts killer cops, no matter how unjustified they are in wasting human life.

Comments (15)

I thought they might go there based on the original reporting.

Car wasn't moving before shots were fired, no violation of PPD policy.

And no, I don't buy it. Not when the police avoid interviewing anyone until they've had a chance to iron out their story. Do a quick, contemporaneous investigation after the incident, and I'm more likely to buy it.

The fact that that many cops were on the scene and this guy was still allowed to get back in the car demonstrates extreme incompetence. There were a LOT of people in and around the store. Not the time or place to bring out the AR15s. A felony stop down the street would have been the way to go and four children would have a daddy in jail instead of in the ground.

I've not read about it yet, but I'm just going to assume the victim was black and unarmed and the officer will face zero consequences.

Read the report. To my surprise they did find a gun on him. He didn't pull it, of course, but still I guess it should be acknowledged.

So you shoot a man dead and then go right back to policing the community. Policing the friends and family of the person you recently gunned down?

Great way to build trust I say.

Next it will be "He flinched, so I shot him. That flinch could have been him reaching for his weapon. I had to take him out before he shot/stabbed/threw a grenade at me". You can't be too careful around ordinary citizens when you're a highly trained body-armored, machine gun equipped cop. It's dangerous out there.

Dane Reister is thrilled to hear this news about the DA's office. And here he thought he had been indicted!

The grand jury does the indicting not the DA. What do want the police to do wait till they actually pull the gun out and start firing? He had a weapon. He was ordered to stop and just kept going. Going with your assumed policy we would end up with dead cops. Follow police orders and none of this would ever happen.

The grand jury does the indicting not the DA.

The grand jury pretty much does what the DA tells it to do. If the DA puts on a weak case, deliberately or otherwise, there will be no indictment.

He had a weapon. He was ordered to stop and just kept going. Going with your assumed policy we would end up with dead cops.

He was trying to drive away from the police. Hard to see how any cop would be dead unless he had a heart attack from all the steroids he's been taking.

Follow police orders and none of this would ever happen.

Thank you, Kim Jong-un.

So you shoot a man dead and then go right back to policing the community.

Oh, no! Six months or more "paid administrative leave" first.

He was trying to drive away from the police. Hard to see how any cop would be dead unless he had a heart attack from all the steroids he's been taking. Hard to see? He had a gun in his waist ban.

Possession of a gun is not grounds for execution. There is no way this guy did anything that threatened that cop's life. That cop panicked and wasted a human life -- or worse, sees himself as judge, jury and executioner, and calmly took the guy out. It's sad that there are so many people in our society who are o.k. with either of those alternatives.

The Portland police have a policy against shooting into fleeing autos. That policy seems to have been violated here.

And to be honest, the cop comes across as a not-very-good liar. One of many on the force.

The grand jury transcript link is right in the article. All 313 pages. I don't see where the DA tried to present a weak case. Where in that document is evidence they left out something or what did they leave out? If a police officer pointed a weapon out you and says stop and you ignore that get in a car when the officer knows you have already shot a weapon earlier and you start digging around around you are justifiable going to get shot. He didn't panic and the grand jury knew he didn't. For a lawyer you don't have much faith in the justice system.

I think Jack hasa lot of faith in the justice system.

Like me, though, I think Jack wonders why the PPB is apparently exempted from that system by years of inaction by the Schrunk / Underhill / Frink led Multnomah County DA's office.

Not sure how the PPB is exempted from the justice system. There is a grand jury trial every time a PPB officer is involved in a fatal shooting . Look at the grand jury transcript in this case. Does it look like the DA left anything out? Grand juries aren't stupid.They wrote a letter to the public in one case. Conspiracy tales of the DA being soft on the PPB ought to have some substance to back them up. Not the usual "we all know they are scratching each others back" stuff. The reason the grand juries don't charge in these PPB cases is that the officer was innocent of criminal wrong doing.




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