"Urban Planning Overlord" will be identified on Friday
After being insulted, attacked, and otherwise baited for years by an anonymous blogger calling himself various names including "Urban Planning Overlord," we have finally figured out who he is, and we will be revealing his true identity here on Friday. Between now and then, he can decide what to do about the charade of concealing who he is.
He may try to pull some or all of his blog down, but some of its content is available on the Wayback Machine, and of course we have many of his comments, several of which were posted from government computers, preserved on our site. Posting from Mountain Park on Sunday was a dumb move on his part, and as a result, his anonymous blogging career will be ending in just a couple of days.
Comments (51)
You have the tenacity of a pit bull! GO GET 'UM!
Posted by Molly | February 22, 2012 9:08 AM
Make him SQUEAL!
Posted by Texas Triffid Ranch | February 22, 2012 9:27 AM
Looks like you rattled him - he's not going to post about you during Lent.
Posted by dg | February 22, 2012 9:35 AM
Many decades ago, in the neighborhood where I spent my early adolescence, there was a kid who routinely through a Sunday punch and then ran home to hide behind his mothers apron strings. "Overlord" brought back memories.
Posted by David E Gilmore | February 22, 2012 9:37 AM
There are plenty of folks who comment here and disagree with you Jack and/or each other...and those discussions can get heated of course, but at least no one resorts to sleazy, arrogant, elitist cutsie-pie schoolyard taunts and attacks such as this overpaid (by our government, of course) clown. He proves himself a spineless coward, a liar and (whaddya wanna bet?) a bully towards...well, you can imagine who he bullies.
Posted by paul | February 22, 2012 9:44 AM
Will there be a contest? What about prizes for correct identification?
Posted by tommyspoon | February 22, 2012 9:50 AM
A fun reminder that what goes out on the internet is
a)never truly anonymous, and
b)permanent, no matter how hard you try to get rid of it. :)
Posted by smarana | February 22, 2012 9:53 AM
Be careful Bojack bloggers. Linking to the "overlord" is presently initiating popups similar to Oregonlive. Maybe the Urban Planner is cashing in on his swan song.
Posted by dhughes609 | February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
Ratchet up the tension a notch and let us know what time the revelation will be happening. I hope there's a good photo involved. Could he be the man who parked the COP car illegally? Sam Adams's communications director? Or maybe his K12 education strategy coordinator?
In any case, he's a decent writer of snark, this experience will serve all involved well. Post under your own name, ask for forgiveness later.
Posted by Gaye Harris | February 22, 2012 10:32 AM
I am guessing you got the subscriber information from the IP address at the date and time of the posts with subpoena or with some other form of legal process. If that is the case you only find out who the subscriber is... not necessarily the same person who made the post.
Does the subscriber have open wireless at their house?
Does the subscriber host a TOR exit node?
Does the subscriber have roommates etc.
You are probably going to need to do more work than that.
Posted by Stubitz | February 22, 2012 10:40 AM
This reminds me of Dallas and "Who shot JR?"
I can't wait for the big reveal...
Posted by Sockett | February 22, 2012 10:42 AM
Scott McNealy: "You have no privacy. Get over it."
So true, smarana!
Posted by Harry | February 22, 2012 10:45 AM
You are late to the party, Stubitz. Don't you think Jack knows all that? He also knows the person is a "professional planner", worked in Simi Valley, wife went to USC, etc. etc. So if subscriber fits all that..... wear the shoe.
Posted by L.O. Resident | February 22, 2012 10:51 AM
I don't agree with anything UPO says or espouses, but taking glee in "outing" him is almost as unattractive. If him posting from work is the reason why, do you scrutinize the IP addresses of those who agree with you with the same zeal?
Posted by boycat | February 22, 2012 10:57 AM
Too smart by half.
Posted by sally | February 22, 2012 11:07 AM
I can hardly wait!
Posted by Portland Native | February 22, 2012 11:14 AM
Not a fan of this guy but I really don't adore the precedent... I see more seething stuff on this web site and in the comment section all the time. I work at a local non-profit, suppose down the road you didn't like what I had to say (under my regular name, I'm being sneaky and anonymous right now) and I posted at lunchtime what would you do to me? Being connected to my real-life name could literally lead to financial ruin for me.
Nobody should expect privacy on the Internet, and people should be careful if they need to be, but when someone goes out of their way to stay private but makes a mistake or two, that's kind of different than posting stupid crap on your Facebook wall.
Maybe you should split this site up into a separate personal blog and a Portland watchdog blog? I appreciate what you do bojack but this whole little fighty thing is kind of awkward.
Posted by butch | February 22, 2012 11:24 AM
Regarding UPO's Lent entry, nothing says "humility" like posting it on you blog...
Posted by PDXLifer | February 22, 2012 11:33 AM
You're right: that wasn't very hard at all, since this guy doesn't know jack about security. (And the posts from the ESD are particularly sleazy.)
Posted by Attorney At Large | February 22, 2012 11:47 AM
Might be time for a complaint by taxpayers to the folks in charge at each government agency's whose computers / links he used to post, and at the same time a complaint to the Oregon Government Ethics Commission.
Public employees really can't be using their work resources, whether machines, ISP access, or time, on ANY personal stuff.
Posted by Nonny Mouse | February 22, 2012 1:08 PM
But Jack,
He is just trying to save us from ourselves by planning every detail of our lives including forcing us into his condos, forbidding driving, mandating walking everywhere, breaking us of plastic bag dependency, forcing us to recycle and building a physical wall to make METRO's little Berlin wall the real thing. His dream is to keep man completely out of the countryside, allowing only rich winery owners and a few farmers.
A companion goal is to save earth from man by de-industerializing society by getting rid of fossil fuels and having us grow our own food. He is a crackpot who falls for every trendy fad in planning.
He and the rest of the planning vermin should be un-employed.
Thanks
JK
Posted by jim karlock | February 22, 2012 1:34 PM
"Man"? You didn't just say "man," did you? Off with your head!
Posted by Jack Bog | February 22, 2012 2:08 PM
There's something very uncomfortable about this. It may not violate any law or anything, but it feels fairly vindictive. This guy or gal could lose a job or career in the "outing." Is that really what this is all about?
Posted by William Thompson | February 22, 2012 2:08 PM
He won't lose his job. He'll just lose the ability to attack me anonymously.
Posted by Jack Bog | February 22, 2012 2:12 PM
UPO today: "Therefore, I have decided that, while I will continue with this blog, and I will continue to advocate for policy positions that are anathema to Professor Jack Bogdanski, I will refrain from mentioning the professor or linking to his blog during the Lenten season in any of my blog posts."
UPO 5-1/2 years ago at the formation of his blog: "The name of this blog comes from a term used by a well-known Portland, Oregon blogger who shall not be named - well, actually, he shall be named - his name is Jack Bogdanski and his blog is Jack Bog's Blog - in reference to the people trying to make Portland a better place - people he hates."
Res ipsa loquitur. It's been his entire raison d'etre.
Posted by sally | February 22, 2012 2:19 PM
Anybody in the entire world can attack you anonymously. My dog could attack me anonymously if he was clever enough with proxies and had a special keyboard for paws made. The nature of anonymity is you can always choose a new alias, rinse and repeat.
Posted by Aaron | February 22, 2012 2:38 PM
Excellent pull, Sally. And THE reason why he MUST be named. Good on ya, Jack.
Posted by Larry Legend | February 22, 2012 2:40 PM
Anybody in the entire world can attack you anonymously.
If they're careful, they can. This guy isn't.
Posted by Jack Bog | February 22, 2012 2:46 PM
I don't know Jack, this one doesn't feel right and I too am concerned about the precedent here. As a frequent reader, sometimes contributor, occasional devil's advocate and too easily provoked "snarker" on this site, I must say the bloglust in this dispute is disconcerting.
Many of us use pseudonyms or nick names when posting on your blog, without any real expectation of being truly anonymous. Nonetheless there seems to be an unwritten understanding that disagreeing or being disagreeable will not mean you will publish our full names or other personal identifying data. (If anyone wants it that much it's not that hard to figure it out).
I know the Overlord is more "public" because he operates his own blog site. And while I don't pretend to know why the "Overlord" chooses to write his blog from behind a fig leaf, the fact is that he does. It is also clear that he doesn't like your political opinions or public persona. His attacks, while unnecessarily personal at times, are not much worse than what many sometimes post here about each other. Given that, I am somewhat confused about your motivation in "outing" him, what standards you are applying to the decision to do so, and what precedent it sets for future posts and unbridled discourse on your site.
To me, the "tune in Friday for the Outing" approach also seems too much like planning a public "fblogging" ( and some of the comments above contribute to that uneasiness). I guess the whole thing just feels like you may be unnecessarily playing down to the level of the competition. After all, a fig leaf doesn't really hide anything that important anyway, except in the mind of its holder.
Posted by Drewbob | February 22, 2012 2:49 PM
This is the third person I've had to do this with in nearly 10 years of blogging. The other two got out of my face as soon as I did it.
Read the guy's blog. He's made it all about me, month after month. It gets old after a while. Now it's going to be all about him for a day or two. He'll get over it.
And note, I'm not attacking him, as he does me. All I'm doing is identifying him. I'm also giving him some time to figure out what he's going to say when he is unmasked.
Posted by Jack Bog | February 22, 2012 2:55 PM
Demagogues in Portland don't get enough ridicule. Outing seems like a good place to start with this guy.
Posted by David E Gilmore | February 22, 2012 3:04 PM
UPO today: "...I will continue to advocate for policy positions that are anathema to Professor Jack Bogdanski,..."
JK: You forgot to add:
"policy positions that are anathema to 90% of the region's population"
Simply put YOUR are using government to further your own fantasies about how other people should live. You don't care how many people you hurt. You only care about yourself. (Do I know you? Probably not, I just know what vermin the average planner is.)
How much money do you make telling others how to live?
Thanks
JK
Posted by jim karlock | February 22, 2012 3:07 PM
Well, at least you aren't a curmudgeon.
Posted by Leigh M | February 22, 2012 3:14 PM
I think the guy is over the top with his ad hominem attacks on Jack and other posters in here as well. It's sort of like the smarty pants guy who sits in the back of the class and flicks spit wads at the back of your head all day long and doesn't get in trouble. When you get your chance for payback against someone like that...you take it.
Posted by Usual Kevin | February 22, 2012 3:46 PM
So much hate. So unnecessary. Not civil discourse (UPO or this blog's reaction). Why is it that you care, Jack?
Posted by Thomas | February 22, 2012 3:47 PM
There is only one person responsible if UPO loses his anonymity. And only one person with absolutely no responsibility to help him keep hiding it; quite the opposite I'd think.
Posted by sally | February 22, 2012 3:48 PM
This guy has been baiting me for years, literally years. I am busy with more important things, and I don't really care about his problems, but he has insisted on getting my attention, and now he has it. And so I am going to do what I can to change the dynamic. The hate, the incivility, the vindictiveness, etc. will all be over in a few days. Because he won't be able to keep up the games once everyone knows who he is. And I will have no further interest in continuing them.
Posted by Jack Bog | February 22, 2012 3:56 PM
Cool. That's bomb. WhatEVer. Persons in their houses and effects get screwball,
stir crazed, in consequence of their inner spiral.
Then they toss off such silly self-absorbed notions as: "90% of the region's population thinks like me."
about what matters
I like public transit; I pay, I ride. Go Tri-Met.
LarsLarson hates public. I can go about, as I have. He can go in oblivion.
At that time of his demise the trains run on.
I am going to traffic here Friday, fer sure, and hear all about it.
Posted by Tenskwatawa | February 22, 2012 5:11 PM
Tenskwatawa I like public transit; I pay, I ride.
JK: You don't really pay - the public pays 75% of your actual cost.
Tenskwatawa Go Tri-Met.
JK: Only if you want to waste time, money and energy. If you want to SAVE time, SAVE money and SAVE energy, then drive a small car.
Thanks
JK
Posted by jim karlock | February 22, 2012 5:41 PM
Jack I am with you 100% - Sometimes you have to make an example out of a bully.
Let me be the first to guess who the Friday mystery guest will be.
{Randy Leonard}
Nothing personal just participating in the festive event.
Posted by John Smith | February 22, 2012 5:43 PM
I dunno. I've read all of these comments and part of me thought (for a moment) that Jack might be a bit of a hot head...but if you read UPO's "welcome back" blog post of Feb 6, he seems to be egging Jack on about revelealing IP information...so, I say, "bring it on".
Posted by PD | February 22, 2012 5:58 PM
There is nothing at all wrong with outing the person, apart from one thing I find puzzling:
You have just given the UPO blog 98% percent of the traffic it has ever had, and have made a therefore relatively voiceless wingnut into something of a celebrity (for 8 or so days, I'd imagine).
I'm not telling you anything you don't know, naturally -- it's just an interesting strategic choice between leaving the person to remain an unread nobody for the rest of its tenure in Oregon, and burning it out of the underbrush in a flash of cordite.
This is certainly the far more showmanlike option!
Posted by Luis | February 22, 2012 6:03 PM
The suspenders are strangling me.
Posted by Bark Munster | February 22, 2012 6:07 PM
I've been reading here for only a few years, but from what I have observed on both blogs UPO seems the pugnacious one. Jack offers his opinions, criticisms, snarks, jabs, and japes on numerous topics. UPO seems intent on proving something. What, I don't know.
Most of us here use pseudonyms for convenience and unique identity: there are several people around with my given name who might not share my values and might not want to be confused with me. There is only one Old Zeb. (Do I hear a "Thank God!?") The faintest due diligence can reveal the identities of those of us who are not in hiding.
Posted by Old Zeb | February 22, 2012 8:29 PM
I thought Tenskey was incarcerated, or worse. Welcome back, Amigo de la Izquierda.
I'm hoping that UPO is Randy Gragg, or a Condomafia Capo.
Posted by Mister Tee | February 22, 2012 8:32 PM
It's Eric Sten with a new in-your-face attitude, same ethos.
Posted by Lee | February 22, 2012 9:31 PM
You pays your money and you takes your chance.
PS: Pit Bull Bogdanski...??
AAAACK!!!!
But, seriously, folks...
This ain't real life...
...it's just Jack's simulacrum.
Abandon all hope, etc., etc., ....
Posted by cc | February 22, 2012 9:47 PM
Is it Friday yet?
Posted by reader | February 22, 2012 11:05 PM
I am surprisingly entertained by this ruckus.
Posted by wpricetax | February 23, 2012 7:35 AM
My guess? It's Robert Canfield...again.
Posted by MJ | February 23, 2012 1:26 PM
Can a person be outed with any consequences for their latent (or blatant), heterophobia?
I think you need to spend some time with Sacha Baron Cohen, he'll help you with your mentally-stuck stuff.
Posted by Gaye Harris | February 24, 2012 8:58 AM