Just what outer east Portland needs
The poverty, the violent crime, the decades of neglect -- finally, Portland City Hall is going to do something good, something vital, for the Joes and Janes out in Felony Flats.
The poverty, the violent crime, the decades of neglect -- finally, Portland City Hall is going to do something good, something vital, for the Joes and Janes out in Felony Flats.
Comments (16)
Glendoveer Woods ain't 'Felony Flats'...Lents is closer because it's in SE, rather than NE, like Glendoveer Woods. 'Felony Flats' is now called Brentwood-Darlington, and it's located south of SE Duke and east of SE 52nd. That's a long ways from NE 146th and Glisan.
Posted by godfry | February 15, 2012 4:35 PM
Thanks for your interpretation. There are others.
Posted by Jack Bog | February 15, 2012 4:36 PM
hmmm.....so all the tools in the self-repair center will be painted yellow....then stolen.
Nice.
Posted by thaddeus | February 15, 2012 4:44 PM
Mccoinnich's post on BikePortland says it all.
Zoning already requires the bike spaces being provided, except for the bike pump in the bike room. So it merely a matter of the developer getting the enormous TOD tax breaks and getting to provide less vehicle parking.
This isn't fair. And the rest of us pay for it through our increased taxes that has to absorb the loss of tax revenue through the Transit Oriented Development.
Posted by lw | February 15, 2012 5:14 PM
Not to mention the development-oriented transit.
Posted by Jack Bog | February 15, 2012 5:20 PM
Only in Portland Oregon is NOT providing off street parking considered a bonus feature. What's more, its such a desirable feature that it's worthy of subsidizing it with tax dollars.
Posted by Pragmatic Portlander | February 15, 2012 7:22 PM
You gotta give them credit for a new way to weasel out of their parking obligation.
Thanks
JK
Posted by jim karlock | February 15, 2012 7:32 PM
I think there are many folks out in East Portland who regret being annexed into the city...and would just as soon be left alone than to have the city bring any more of their plans and tax abated housing into the area.
I hear many complaints from people who have lived there for years. The media should stop mis-characterizing the entire area...believe it or not, there still are nice homes and pockets of nice neighborhoods left despite the city most likely wanting to ruin more.
Posted by clinamen | February 15, 2012 8:36 PM
Walk around Glendoveer and from 148th Glisan to Halsey,
beautiful homes in that area.
Posted by Starbuck | February 15, 2012 9:02 PM
First, Godfrey is right. 146 & Glisan/Burnside is NOT Felony Flats.
Second, while there's MAX on Burnside, the Glisan bus has very limited service. But people don't ride buses any more, do they?
Third, I'm hoping these new apartments don't attract many families...the school districts out here are already overcrowded with people priced out of the trendier areas of town.
Fourth, I suppose this is the City's way of finally getting around to paying attention to neighborhoods east of 82nd. Thanks for the love, I guess.
Posted by Michelle | February 15, 2012 9:02 PM
There is a nice walking path around Glendoveer, and homes in the area
as Starbuck mentioned have lovely yards...
could it be that that developers eyes are on that land too, as if, as I mentioned earlier, the density/city plans haven't done enough damage out in East Portland. Nothing like ruining an area by bringing in the light rail and crime and ghetto housing nearby to devalue other people's homes and property.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/08/proposed_glendoveer_changes.html
Be careful when Metro comes in to make changes. Reading the people's comments, apparently the people like it as it is.
Not that that ever matters to those who are set on the "redo" of the area.
One sticking point with the Glendoveer staff was a proposal to replace the course's irrigation system simply because it's 30 years old. Head golf pro Jim Chianello said, with the exception of a few tee boxes, it doesn't need replacing.
No wonder we are in financial trouble. Why replace things that don't need it?
Posted by clinamen | February 15, 2012 9:51 PM
I'm sure what the area doesn't need is another multifamily property in that area. While Glenfair is west of Rockwood, the density and transitory population that comes with multifamily development is creeping west livability will go down. Especially if it close to the Max train.
Unless we are talking about luxury units for high-earners, housing built for the middle class or lower degrades a neighborhood if the density is not controlled and kept to a reasonable level. That's probably not very PC to say, but when there are too many apartment units in a given area, the competition drives the price down, as happened in Rockwood. Landlords struggle to keep their businesses profitable and must allow less desirable tenants at lower rents just to have some money coming in and good tenants move out. Presto, you have a ghetto.
In Rockwood, multifamily housing constitutes the largest amount of land for any type of commercial or residential use. While apartments are a necessary component of the housing we need, much care should be given to how much is located in any one place outside of the urban core. Unfortunately, the religion of New Urbanism doesn't believe that THEIR development will do anything but good, but logic is not one of their beliefs either.
Posted by Nolo | February 15, 2012 11:30 PM
Apartment bunkers and bikes to the rescue! Doesn't anyone of these "planners" ever study what kind of Hell was created in Chicago with stacks of cheap bunkers?
"the Portland Planning and Sustainability Commission, developers of a proposed 113 unit, four-story apartment building on NE 146th between Glisan and East Burnside (about 10 miles east of downtown Portland) plan to offer residents a large bike repair room, parking spaces for 124 bicycles, than car parking, and even a "transportation coordination" center in the lobby for bus schedules, bike maps and more."
Posted by Ralph Woods | February 16, 2012 8:28 AM
I think more attention should be paid to creating affordable housing for "getting older" folks who do not necessarily ride bikes. Small "mother-in-law" type homes or apartments, perhaps in groups for community or protection. NOT bunkers with trendy bike repair or artmaking accountrements.
This older population is growing and usually falls through the cracks of the network -- not young enough to have a long working life ahead of them -- no kids to write off -- and not old enough to quality as an "honored citizen" or collect retirement or social security.
Posted by NW Portlander | February 16, 2012 9:41 AM
What do the neighborhood associations think of the extreme density
brought into that outer East Portland area?
Posted by clinamen | February 16, 2012 10:40 AM
Ask the police. Look at a map of crime stats. It was a nice area a couple of decades ago. Things change, but this mess was predictable.
Posted by Nolo | February 20, 2012 1:11 AM