Just how are the Feds doing with their investigation? Where are the rest of the indictments?

Inner SE will be next...As soon as the 'sewer snoids' get finished with the giant poop pipe, watch for the meters to be installed all along the new trolley tracks.
And where are those FEDs when you need 'em?

Mr. Bogdanski:

If you haven't read "The High Cost of Free Parking," by Donald Shoup, you should. Thanks.

"Trendy third." It's mostly a bit too whatever for me over there but I do like to go occasionally. Free parking is nice but it's so damn hard to find over there. Maybe meters will help w/ that. And probably not a good deal for those who actually live over there.

I'm not so sure about Hawthorne. Blumenauer / Stacey and the SE crowd may still have enough pull in City Hall to garner some special treatment for that beloved area.

Juliet, the high cost of studies that often produce papers such as "the high cost of free parking" often exclude human factors such as neighborhood tradition, perception of city hall, and input from the actual business owners affected. There is clearly some difference in planning new development and existing norms. Don't buy it for the intended area.

Keep a close watch on Adams and Leonard, they will roll full steam ahead to implement all kinds of plans.
Would have been better for them to have kept busy running a campaign and then we could have handed them a big fat NO!
Doubt Leonard's ego could have handled that nor could Adam's resume.

I thought the residents supported this plan and the business groups opposed it. And the business groups would have supported it had they gotten their parking garage, but the residents fought and killed that project. Sounds like good old neighbor-a-neighbor up there.

Juliet Hyams: If you haven't read "The High Cost of Free Parking," by Donald Shoup, you should. Thanks.
JK: Please quit repeating car hating greenie propaganda.

Here is a more realistic look at the subject:
http://www.portlandfacts.com/parkingsubsidy.html

Thanks
JK

FWIW: this appears to be the plan of the anti-car zealots at Portland and Metro:
http://www.portlandfacts.com/printables/Disincentives%20to%20the%20Automobile.pdf

Thanks
JK

I think Jack is right: the driving force behind this is the revenue from meters and permits. A secondary benefit to the city "fathers" is that the Singer family can cash in on the development of a few parking garages, which no one would patronize as long as there is at least a theoretical chance of a free spot on the street. As someone who lives in the neighborhood, I can say that I have never been unable to find a parking spot on the street when I wanted or needed one. Sometimes I have to walk a block or two; usually, not.

Miles, as far as I know, you're completely wrong. No one got rid of the Singer garage; it was approved and may be built even though the NW Examiner undertook a study that demonstrated that there were plenty of parking lot spaces available in the neighborhood at any given time. Problem is, nobody wants to pay to park so visitors were going for the curbs, driving around and around and leaking into the neighborhoods. So now it looks like between the Singer garage and parking meters there's no free lunch if you want to shop on 23rd. Consumers and tourists even have to pay $2.00 to take the streetcar there from downtown. Given that suburban malls, the Lloyd Center with its fareless MAX stop and free parking, and inner NE and SE neighborhoods don't yet have parking meters this puts NW 23rd and 21st at a distinct disadvantage.

And if you know that you can park for free on a side-street, it will only make finding parking for residents and visitors even more challenging than it already is.

So hey, why not just meter the whole neighborhood?

Is this what you call creeping creepyism?

Allan L. wrote:

Sometimes I have to walk a block or two; usually, not.

I agree. I venture downtown several times a month and have no problem finding free or low cost parking in both NW as well as the downtown core. Sorry, but I cannot divulge the easy-to-access downtown free parking locations.

Walking a few blocks is good for you!

Portland is being rebuilt according to a blueprint, and in order to do that anything pre-existing has to be demolished.
The city's war on it's own local economy has just gone up a notch in NW.
I wonder which national chains have already been penciled in to rebuild it?

Yes, Mr. Grumpy,
Pre-existing must be demolished until we don't recognize our city,
how far along on the blueprint are they now?
...or is it as I posted on another thread, down to getting every last drop out of that gravy train they can...
then might it stop?

I think it's about time that NW23rd gets parking meters. Every time I go over there (and I try to avoid it if at all possible) it seems that all the spots are taken all day long. That's a lot of revenue. It's only fair that they should pay too. And they've already started putting a few metered spots just off of NE Broadway, on 3rd and 7th.