Today our travels take us to a park built on a landfill.
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This "orphan" land fill has been a headache since it was filled in years ago. Problems with methane have never gone away. Liquids leaching into our groundwater, continue to generate health concerns. No DEQ help here other than going through motions. One agency watches out for the other.
Jack please do an update on City of Portland salaries and reclassifications for the last 2 years. Leonard et al, have reclassified a lot of people to buy loyalty/ give managers bigger PERS benefits.
Jack...while your out taking a look at the future site of buried duck doodie, you might want to wander by the area of 60th, Cully, and Prescott and take a look at the future of bicycling in Stumptown. They're working on installing an elevated bike path along Cully between (I believe) Prescott and Killingsworth.
Many decades ago, I occasionally passed by a land fill that had pipes installed to extract methane for supplying a medium sized electric power generator. Has that concept become passe?
Duniway Park, complete with the lilac garden, just upstream from the Metro Y building (and, thus, upstream from the SoWhat development area) is a former landfill.
I spent many hours walking the dog in Berkeley's César Chávez park, which is on the site of a former landfill. It's flat on the edges and hilly in the middle; well vegetated and positioned between the freeway and the bay. Wonderful spot.
Might be wonderful. . however some of us have to wonder what is beneath that surface, and not accept that just because it looks attractive on the top, therefore the park is healthy.
Wilfred Dimton states: This "orphan" land fill has been a headache since it was filled in years ago. Problems with methane have never gone away. Liquids leaching into our groundwater, continue to generate health concerns. No DEQ help here other than going through motions. One agency watches out for the other. .
"I occasionally passed by a land fill that had pipes installed to extract methane for supplying a medium sized electric power generator. Has that concept become passe?"
Bridgeport in Tualatin was built on a landfill and has methane vents all over it. I don't remember exactly how long its been open, but I haven't seen any evidence of settling yet, so it seems stable enough and no matter what you think of shopping malls, its an improvement on the historical use.
DEQ's contribution is to put up a NO SMOKING sign partially convered by weeds, so the whole place doesn't blow up from the many methane vents. Good to know they did their part in keeping us and the neighborhood safe. Spreading out this lake debris is going to be interesting. I hope someone gets some pictures.
What is the position of the 90 plus neighborhood associations we have in Portland on this? Do they think this is OK to dump from Laurelhurst to Cully or in any park?
Has there even been a discussion about methane in a landfill park, piping, groundwater questions and then hoping no one will smoke on these type of parks as being adequate?
I am thinking they all may be too busy with their own set of problems, such as West Hayden Island, UR's, density and infill problems, wireless towers on any telephone pole in our city, and the list is long. These Associations need to become united against these individual abuses on neighborhoods. Would the city listen then, or are these associations too closely tied in with the political machinery?
We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.
Benjamin Franklin
Comments (12)
This "orphan" land fill has been a headache since it was filled in years ago. Problems with methane have never gone away. Liquids leaching into our groundwater, continue to generate health concerns. No DEQ help here other than going through motions. One agency watches out for the other.
Jack please do an update on City of Portland salaries and reclassifications for the last 2 years. Leonard et al, have reclassified a lot of people to buy loyalty/ give managers bigger PERS benefits.
Posted by Wilfred Dimton | July 26, 2010 11:47 AM
Jack...while your out taking a look at the future site of buried duck doodie, you might want to wander by the area of 60th, Cully, and Prescott and take a look at the future of bicycling in Stumptown. They're working on installing an elevated bike path along Cully between (I believe) Prescott and Killingsworth.
Coming soon to your street!
Go by streetcar!!
Posted by LexusLibertarian | July 26, 2010 11:48 AM
Many decades ago, I occasionally passed by a land fill that had pipes installed to extract methane for supplying a medium sized electric power generator. Has that concept become passe?
Posted by David E Gilmore | July 26, 2010 12:06 PM
Liberty State Park I would surmise.
Posted by Grady Foster | July 26, 2010 1:36 PM
Duniway Park, complete with the lilac garden, just upstream from the Metro Y building (and, thus, upstream from the SoWhat development area) is a former landfill.
Hey...It's okay. Right?
Posted by godfry | July 26, 2010 2:06 PM
I spent many hours walking the dog in Berkeley's César Chávez park, which is on the site of a former landfill. It's flat on the edges and hilly in the middle; well vegetated and positioned between the freeway and the bay. Wonderful spot.
Posted by Jessica Bucciarelli | July 26, 2010 4:37 PM
"a park built on a landfill"
You finally made it down to the End of the Oregon Trail?
Posted by Bean | July 26, 2010 4:41 PM
You're walking the GasWorks Park on Lake Union in Seattle, after touring Paul's Rock Museum.
Posted by lw | July 26, 2010 5:01 PM
Jessica Bucciarelli: . . .Wonderful spot.
Might be wonderful. . however some of us have to wonder what is beneath that surface, and not accept that just because it looks attractive on the top, therefore the park is healthy.
Wilfred Dimton states: This "orphan" land fill has been a headache since it was filled in years ago. Problems with methane have never gone away. Liquids leaching into our groundwater, continue to generate health concerns. No DEQ help here other than going through motions. One agency watches out for the other. .
A story about landfills:
http://cbs2chicago.com/investigations/toxic.coverup.landfill.2.725426.html
Posted by clinamen | July 26, 2010 6:30 PM
"I occasionally passed by a land fill that had pipes installed to extract methane for supplying a medium sized electric power generator. Has that concept become passe?"
Bridgeport in Tualatin was built on a landfill and has methane vents all over it. I don't remember exactly how long its been open, but I haven't seen any evidence of settling yet, so it seems stable enough and no matter what you think of shopping malls, its an improvement on the historical use.
Posted by Steve | July 27, 2010 8:55 AM
DEQ's contribution is to put up a NO SMOKING sign partially convered by weeds, so the whole place doesn't blow up from the many methane vents. Good to know they did their part in keeping us and the neighborhood safe. Spreading out this lake debris is going to be interesting. I hope someone gets some pictures.
Posted by Old Shep | July 27, 2010 11:42 AM
What is the position of the 90 plus neighborhood associations we have in Portland on this? Do they think this is OK to dump from Laurelhurst to Cully or in any park?
Has there even been a discussion about methane in a landfill park, piping, groundwater questions and then hoping no one will smoke on these type of parks as being adequate?
I am thinking they all may be too busy with their own set of problems, such as West Hayden Island, UR's, density and infill problems, wireless towers on any telephone pole in our city, and the list is long. These Associations need to become united against these individual abuses on neighborhoods. Would the city listen then, or are these associations too closely tied in with the political machinery?
We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.
Benjamin Franklin
Posted by clinamen | July 27, 2010 1:59 PM