One thing we know: If Goldman Sachs is involved in any way they'll probably profit if the sewer fails.
I like the line from the hearings yesterday: It's like you people sell used cars knowing the brakes are bad, then take out an insurance policy on the driver.

Jack, You are wrong about Portland's MLS team being second tier...they will be closer to forth tier.

And do City of Portland PR flaks have nothing better to do then make petty, minor corrections on blogs all day?

A sinkhole in the soccer pitch could make the game interesting.

Nothing else has ever succeeded in making soccer interesting. Sewage would be an improvement.

That's what they call the s**t hitting the fans.

I feel like an unlikely effect of Portland's high unemployment rates are the number of 'alert readers" on this blog that have time to find obscure facts in the annals of old documents that sorta coulda maybe support conspiracy theories against plans for the city that you don't support.

So people that contribute to this blog are unemployed and are conspiracy theorists for objecting to wasteful spending. Never thought of that. Thanks.

There's no conspiracy "theory" on PGE Park. The facts are pretty clear. Creepy and the Fireman will do what Paulson tells them to, and Saltzman will probably go along for the ride.

As for digging up the facts, that's what journalists used to do. You should be thankful that there are people who care enough about this city to spend their own time doing that work without pay.

I feel like an expected effect of Portland's employment practices is that people who are sucking up boondoggle money monitor the site pretty closely and occasionally feel compelled to whine when an "obscure" fact ... like something that happened way back in the Dark Ages (three years ago) is examined for its relevance to the current era . . . is brought up.

Christ, if 66 and 67 fail, I feel like just about every single member of City of Portland government ought to be hauled out of their offices and fired with five minutes notice, because I've absolutely lost count of the number of comments seen around suggesting that people are voting against 66 & 67 out of a deep and abiding anger at COP and conflating the city and the state together in their mind.

And, to be honest, it's perfectly understandable -- it's going to have horrendous consequences, but it's understandable.

Unemployed; alert; and knee deep in obscure facts that point to flaws in the government of the city. Trifecta!

Does ambrown get banned because if I said something that outrageously (fill in blank) I would worry about getting banned.

let's hope it happens when nobody's there cheering ...

Actually, if we located the grandstand's celebrity boxes immediatly above the sewer line, I'd pay money to see a giant sinkhole open up and swallow the usual suspects from City Hall and their West Hills construction cartel movers and shakers. This could be a great new way to increase the meager attendance numbers!

Glad to meet you, AMBrown. I am indeed one of those conspiracy buffs and always delight in hearing from folks such as yourself -- the coincidence buffs.

(Daniel Sheehan's jape, not mine.)

The city will move the sewer out of the stadium, at great expense to you and I. That's what LLP will demand, and that's what he'll get. The good news is that your sewer bill is already so high, you'll never notice the added cost.

Strictly from a physics perspective, if the thing is to fail, it's going to happen when there is the most load on the ground. That's going to be when construction equipment is rolling around on it, or when the stands are bearing the load of the thousa... no wait, this is soccer... tens of fans.

Actually, doesn't appear to be anything to worry about here, now that I think about it.