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Friday, February 22, 2013

Tri-Met train fiasco gets worse

Not only did the MAX train travel two miles at 55 miles an hour with a door wide open, but apparently the driver ignored passengers who were trying to reach him or her via the emergency intercom. That darn thing interferes with REM sleep, and so the driver must have turned it off.

Add danger to inconvenience and expense: One more reason for normal people never to ride Tri-Met if they have a choice.

We don't hate transit, but we do dislike incompetence. It really is time for a complete purge of the stupidity that has taken over the Portland transit system.

Comments (14)

Careful, you're beginning to piss off Neil and his hand-picked crew.

After reading the O comment sections, I suspect we'll soon have a bid for an intercom system with multiple buttons:
- emergency
- not emergency
- how's your day going
- can you back up as I forgot something on the platform
- the doors are still open
- etc

And an especially loud horn in the driver compartment, perhaps a ship klaxon.

When/if s/he heard the intercom alert, the driver was probably like, "Whatever it is I can't do anything about it until the next stop. It's not like the doors are open or anything."

I saw the EXACT SAME thing happen on the MAX, probably 12 years ago.

Only it was worse, because rather than staying open from the stop, the doors suddenly opened while we were doing 50mph+ along I-84.

Thankfully no one was leaning up against the doors at the time, even though the train was full, so people were standing right there.

Don't think of it as a malfunctioning door. Think of it as a bio-portal for clean-air diversity.

I miss the days when TriMet bus drivers were allowed (yes, allowed!) to drive their buses with the front door open for air circulation - you know, those buses didn't have air conditioning.

To this day, TriMet's oldest buses (the ones whose vehicle number starts with a 1 - 1400, 1600, 1700, 1800 and 1900, virtually all of the high floor buses) are able to be driven this way since the front door is not interlocked. However, policy is that Operators are not to open the door before a complete stop and to close the door prior to releasing the brakes.

Of course, this means each bus stop takes longer - get on a bus in Seattle, and the door is opening as the bus stops, and the bus pulls away while the door is closing. However, the bus isn't doing 55 at either time. Or more than 10.

I don't know why they have doors anyway. Just a big nuisance, like the intercom.

Cut off the government credit cards (debt issuance and future compensation obligations), and the spendthrift politicians who get elected selling hope with little or no sacrifice implied might be kept in check.
There are a couple of spendthrift politicans in Salem who propose extending the red ink hemorrhaging westside commuter train (between Beaverton and Wilsonville) all the way to Salem and onto Eugene. But who might most use this line but a few politicians for a portion of each year, and maybe a few Duck football home games. And besides this, there are already exists such a train, and it's called Amtrak. Such a proposal makes no economic sense yet when the money's free to politicians they'll spend it as soon as possible.

Sounds like there was a first error: the trains aren't supposed to be able to move if the doors are open. The driver probably knows this, and so assumed that the passengers must be wrong.

Indeed, there is an interlock system - the MAX train is not supposed to move if any of its doors are open...

But, reflecting Tri-Met itself, the system failed.

I've read that some of the Tri-met buses have cameras (with audio) monitoring the operator.

Do they have one in the MAX drivers' compartments to know about what goes on up there?

I've read that some of the Tri-met buses have cameras (with audio) monitoring the operator.

Do they have one in the MAX drivers' compartments to know about what goes on up there?

Only the 3000 series buses have the audio recording...and **NO** TriMet vehicle has a camera looking at the Operator.

I understand the union objections - afterall, TriMet management is certainly untrustworthy and I wouldn't want to have management stick a camera in my face WAITING for me to screw up - but in my current job, what I do is recorded (yes, even my phone calls). More often than not, the recordings actually show the employee doing the right thing. But an overzealous management, destined to bust someone they don't like, can and will use the recordings how they see it...and without adequate safeguard, it's no wonder the union opposes it until TriMet management can assure the rank-and-file that they won't go on an easter egg hunt.

It really was no big deal.
We don't know if he ignored it, didn't get it, or just proceeded to next station as regulations require.
The operator certainly doesn't deserved to be hung due to a Trimet mechanical failure

BTW way, you may want to peruse this from the union:
ATU 757 -TriMet Max: A Series of Disasters Waiting to Happen

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