I would like to witness all of the Tri-Met executives forced to ride the busses all the time. No cars or bikes or even trains for them!

The 17 was the bus I took to the NW Industrial district (Montgomery Park area), through Guild's Lake and out to either Sauvie Island or St. Johns via Hwy. 30 and the St. Johns bridge. I heard that they might be cutting that run out to St. Johns which is unfortunate since the only other way to get there is either to bus out of the Rose Quarter on Greeley to Lombard and transfer to travel west on Lombard or take the MAX to Interstate and Lombard and switch to yet another (usually overcrowded) bus headed west.

Bus number roulette caused all sorts of confusion awhile ago when they changed the number on the Greeley bus and the elder neighbors didn't understand.

Please. Bring back the Rose City Bus Service.

Don't hold me to it, but I think the No. 5 bus used to go to Vancouver. The MAX Yellow line probably took that away.

I think that one disappeared with C-TRAN.

They could have kept the route if they didn't buy those ridiculous bus stop signs...

I wonder what kind of premium was paid for those?

The 5 did indeed run from downtown Portland to Vancouver.

"The 5 did indeed run from downtown Portland to Vancouver."

...and years ago, featured the only regular three-card monte game on TriMet.

Over here on the west side of the Willamette I have been riding the 17 to travel between downtown (where I work) to Nob Hill (where I live).

Now they're sending the 17 east across the Steele Bridge and the 77 is moving over to the NW Everett/Glisan couplet from its old route on Lovejoy/Northrup.

The reason for this change, I believe, is due to the streetcar alignment on Lovejoy/Northrup.

TriMet management cannot seem to understand that for the vast majority of their bus passengers the streetcar is not a desired leg of any routine transit journey. (Well, it's either that or they don't give a sh*t.)

TriMet's new motto:

"We don't give a sh*t"

It is all for a good cause:

Building more Light rail.

Thanks
JK

They could have kept the route if they didn't buy those ridiculous bus stop signs...

I wonder what kind of premium was paid for those?

Don't know, but I read recently that it costs around $2500 to install a new sign.

Over on my side of town there will be no more 17 to holgate or through the transit mall. No way down 5th from NW PDX! Thanks Trimess!

Portland native, if the TriMet managers rode the bus at least once a week, they'd quickly learn what a problem it is to commute.

Bonus points if they have to transfer at least once, and have to leave their nice car at a Park-n-Ride.

I'm atop a steep hill, 2 miles from the nearest bus stop, and not infirm enough to use the on-demand short buses. So I'll be using my car until pigs start flying.

Mess transit doesn't help me at all here. I do however use it in many other metro areas that don't seem to get the accolades that our toy transit system frequently garners.

While enjoying the early-afternoon sun in Washington Park last week, I noticed the 63 passing by every 10-15 minutes with one or two riders. If only Tri-Met protected major eastside routes as stubbornly...

I could commute to my workplace in Clackamas from NE PDX and back if I wanted to spend nearly four, yeas four hours on the bus and train each day.
Thank you no Trimet, once you demonstrate that the public's time is worth something I'll consider using your "service". Until then I'll drive.

I don't see what he problem is here, as I'm sure the Light Rail and Streetcar systems can pick up the slack and get everyone to where ever they need to be in short order.

Re. the 63 Washington Park comment . . . I continue to watch in disbelief as TriMet continues to defend the #15 Thurman bus. Cut after cut and change after change to routes that commuters and the elderly and low-income depend upon but the #15 NW Thurman is untouchable. Thurman dead ends at Leif Erickson Drive and the bus doesn't even go that far up the hill . . . into a wealthy neighborhood where homeowners possess one or more expensive cars. Whenever I've ridden this "leg" of the 15, everyone gets off at the 23rd Avenue end and the empty bus proceeds up the hill. Awhile ago, there was a brouhaha about cutting the leg because of the difficult back and fill turnaround point at the top of Thurman. Rather than 86ing, they paid a bundle for study and put up signage (maybe a light? I don't recall). I should say, WE paid so that a small, wealthy enclave could keep "their" TriMet service that they don't even appear to use.

Y'know, they keep pushing these bunker condos partly on the basis that they are "located on mass transit lines".

How can they continue to assure that? They keep terminating lines right and left, how can anybody be assured that the transit line will even be there next year?

As a result, I think that a total moratorium should be placed on building permits for multi-unit dwellings without any off-street parking. At least until they can assure us that the transit lines will remain.

The whole idea is to convince bus riders (and those living near the bus lines) that the bus system is so miserable and horrible, that accepting a MAX line is the only savior for transit in their neighborhoods.

But, they can't eliminate the bus line altogether; or else TriMet would lose the ability to collect taxes. So there has to be SOME bus service.

My understanding was that the Fremont bus was actually pretty popular and well-used. Of course TriMet, in its infinite wisdom, changed it, and ridership dropped. Thus, TriMet can argue that "more people prefer MAX than the bus" as bus ridership drops and MAX ridership increases.

When bus ridership increases (like it did last month), the P.R. machine has to shift gears. Notice the amount of attention given to the "record-breaking WES ridership" last month...but the bus ridership statistic was largely glossed over.

They just stuck similar signs to the poles on the 43 line, Taylors Ferry. Haven't gone over to read one yet, but I noticed they looked a lot like the ones pictured here.