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Another parting gift from the Sam Rands: fluoride

And you won't get to vote on it without lots and lots of signatures on petitions. The Fireman knows what's best for you. And so once again, you will do as he says.

Comments (24)

So, is it "flouride", "floride" or something else? If we can't get the spelling correct, how will a discussion make any sense?

And don't add those pesky chemtrails to the discussion.

When dealing with the Admiral, the only letters that matter are the "f" and the "u."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2bSL5VQgM I know that the Admiral is less than admirable, but fluoridation is NOT a commie conspiracy and it would do well for Portland to accept a little science.

OK, so besides applications at MWH and Carollo, Randy is applying for a job with Fluoride-is-Us?

He's gonna be busy even with those two public pensions.

Why not add lithium, too? It would prevent suicides.

http://drinkingwateradvisor.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/lithium-in-drinking-and-risk-of-suicide/

Everyone would be happy, happy, happy.

God forbid the public get to vote on a matter concerning something they can not, literally, live without. The People's (Banana) Republic of Portland.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how the politics shape up with this. While we can expect the tinfoil-helmet brigade to come out in opposition, we also have in Portland a legion of progressive earth-mamas, of the type that don't get their kids vaccinated, who are not going to like the idea either.

Why on earth do they want to floridate our water? i've been to florida and the water there is terrible.

At least we know who Admiral Randy is going to work for when he "retires" from politics...

i've been to florida and the water there is terrible.

In order to be able to provide sufficient water for the millions predicted to flock here, plans are being laid now that will leave our water not much better.

These A-holes are hell bent on keeping us sick and idiots:

New Harvard study confirms fluoride lowers your IQ and causes tumors:

http://naturalsociety.com/harvard-study-published-federal-govt-journal-confirms-fluoride-lowers-iq/

And don't forget most of the Fluoride that will be added to the water comes from Chinese industrial waste and contains lead, arsenic, and other nasty crap.

http://www.naturalnews.com/030952_CDC_fluoride.html
For one thing, do you know where fluoride comes from? It turns out that so-called "fluoride" is really fluorosilicic acid, a toxic waste byproduct of the phosphate mining industry. If it wasn't being dumped into the water supplies of major cities, it would have to be disposed as a hazardous toxic waste chemical under EPA rules.

Let us call it what it is - fluorosilicic acid!

Sounds like more of Randy's revenge.
As I have mentioned before, we are in enough of a fix as it is with having politicians making decisions for us and based on what?
I suspect there is money involved in the picture here. Is the city so broke that they might be getting a bit of cash to introduce this into our water? Are some elected officials getting campaign funds from those promoting this? Whatever!!
As far as some dentists promoting this (not all do) where in the dental school do they study nutrition and the effect of fluorosilicic acid on the entire body?
Only looking at the teeth is simply not adequate.

There must be some alarms as article states the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) concluded that fluoride levels need to be lowered in municipal water supplies...
As some communities are doing that and others are taking it out of their water systems, why even think of doing this to our community now?

If those who wish to promote this for the children here would consider there are other ways to do so if fluorosilicic acid is determined "needed" for the children
without medicating the entire community!

It is not only Leonard but Mark Weiner, the Master of info spill,
is having a field day of accelerated earnings and lies. An investigation should
be launched into who the long list of people actually are that supposedly support the use of fluoride.

Elected to be City Commissioner, Steve Novick, can take a flying leap with his support of fluoride which
is unconscionable at a time when we are 33rd in the country in
feeding our children. Starving children is a prime cause of tooth
damage. Good nutrition for our children is proven to be the best way to prevent tooth decay and healthy development. ... Not fluoride. Cities are cancelling fluoride's use across the US.

Feed our children NOW, Leonard, Weiner and Novick

Could this be another one of Carollo's functions we haven't yet been told about?

OK Randy we know you read this site.
Man up , and let the Citizens of Portland vote on this.

Stuffing it down our throats in a lame duck council vote
is not the Portland Way.

We have the purest water in the world , and many of us
want it left alone.

Tim,

Maybe Harvard is on to something, but maybe there is just a correlation - they have to fluoridate the water in certain places where people tend to have low IQs and forget to brush twice a day. Most of the voters in Portland would fall into that category (low IQ) judging by the a-holes they keep putting in office.

Admiral Randy the socialist bull is back in the china shop again - this time behind closed opaque doors attempting to add some so-called fluorosilicic acid droppings in Portland’s (now pristine) water supply - thereby actually putting the “bull” in Bull Run. Obviously he must be advocating for more bottled water consumption, like that bottled by Nestle in those clear eco friendly plastic containers. Maybe it is that his spandex shorts are too tight triggering a dribble of Randy’s revenge, or maybe he has been drinking some sort of unknown additive in his own jungle juice mix instead of tap water; but what the bullish Admiral doesn’t seem to understand is the meaning of “transparency” - both with Portland water, and in the City Council process.

Voters have previously weighed in they want to keep Portland water perfectly clear. Not only does the electorate deserve a clear view of an open door process, but also an occupier right to vote on any proposed implementation

That Harvard study vexes me. I don't want to believe it, because to believe it would be to admit that the yahoos are right. That we are really that stupid that we poison the brains of babies.

Please. Don't let it be true.

Put a big, ugly excise tax on anything that gets more than 30% of its calories from sugar. Dedicate the take to free dental care for kids. Feeding kids the "white death" and denying them dental care is horribly inhumane. Poisoning the water with fluoride will not be improving the situation.

I've never gotten the reaction over fluoride; I'll be honest -- I got my first cavity in decades after living in Portland for 8 years. Whether that was due to lack of fluoride, of course, is impossible to know.

My siblings' kids who grew up in Portland have had more issues with cavities than the set that grew up in the Midwest with fluoridated water == and the Portland kids' dentist prescribed fluoride from an early age. So far, the Midwest set has shown no evidence of tumors -- and they are a decade older than the Portland set.

As for the Harvard study, I'd have to do a lot more research to determine if I buy it or not. Lots of articles cite "Harvard studies." Doesn't mean they are right ... or wrong.

It's so easy to fluoridate your teeth if you want to. Why not pass out free toothpaste and rinse to those who want it, and leave the water supply alone?

Talea,
What years were those, and was it a natural type of fluoride in the Midwest or the fluorosilicic acid, a toxic waste byproduct of the phosphate mining industry?

There seems to be a movement afoot to not leave our water supply alone.
One way or another, eyes are on it to change it for whatever reason.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/08/new_coalition_lobbies_to_fluor.html
A newly formed and hush-hush coalition of more than 50 high-profile organizations is quietly lobbying the Portland City Council to add fluoride to a drinking water supply........
He told them he'll promote an ordinance to fluoridate the water with City Council approval, without a public vote, if they find two other council votes and run a public awareness campaign.

So yesterday the O headlines and now today!

http://www.kgw.com/news/Portlands-Fluoride-Flap-165803296.html
...Portland City Council is expected to vote on the issue September 12.

Surprise!
Some public awareness campaign!!

The facts about fluorosilicic acid is one matter.

The other is this disturbing hush hush coalition quietly lobbying Leonard and our council apparently extracting assurances this would not need to go to the public for a vote. So once again as in the LT2 issue, city/PWB behind the scenes plan sounds like putting the fix in, haven’t we had enough of this in our city?

If this was such a good idea and plan with integrity, I don't think they would have had to resort to the hush hush and now the rush rush with a quick council hearing!

Outrageous behind closed doors lobbying, who is really benefiting here?

First it's Caesar Chavez now it's "Ok, shut up and drink the drug."

Total contempt of the people of Portland, brought to you by the likes of Leonard, soon to be followed by Novick and possibly (gasp!) Nolan aka Nurse Ratchet.


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