Has Palin released her medical records yet?

Of course not. No tax returns, either.

There's going to be a tragic miscarriage in a day or two . . . . and no wedding.

I thought Sunday was Google bait day. :-)

Count me among the "Trig is Bristol's and not Sarah's" camp. The tinfoil hat dude in me expects October to be a big month for young Bristol.

...no wedding.

That would be a bad thing for Todd. I could easily see the RNC cutting the guy a check to say "I do" and make it last for six months or so.

oh. my. gawd. This is getting good.

Incidentally, mp97303, neith Obama or Biden have released their medical records either.

My only question is, why? I don't understand what they have to gain with so many fake pregnancies.

"The breasts look particularly odd." Maybe when she turns 18 I will think about that Jack.

"What are those two small bumps in her dress? Is that from a baby, or is it from buckles or straps of some kind?"

Standard issue Republican Chastity belt.

neith Obama or Biden have released their medical records either.

I must have missed something, Butch. Which of them is claiming to have been pregnant?

"I don't understand what they have to gain with so many fake pregnancies."

I think it has more to do with what they have to lose.

She looks pregnant to me; the height of the "baby bump" is correct for this stage of pregnancy. As for her boobs: they're huge, and if she's a busty girl to begin with, this, too, would be normal.

My complicated mathematical formulas say stay away from this one, Jack. Confirmation bias running amok - you want to think there's a big scandal here. I'll put the line at -2000 that there isn't.

Allan,

Obama claimed he quit smoking. But he still looks gaunt to me. I demand he release all of his medical records to prove he no longer smokes. If he doesn't, he's obviously hiding the fact that he has lung cancer.

"I must have missed something, Butch. Which of them is claiming to have been pregnant?"

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Just because they are men doesn't mean that they can't be pregnant.

It would be hard to run for President while male and pregnant (even as an African American). But I bet Oprah would have you on her show, even if you were a Republican.

"If he doesn't, he's obviously hiding the fact that he has lung cancer."

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Obama is not hiding lung cancer, but I think he is hiding his pregnancy.

And the guy is doing an amazing job at hiding this pregnancy. I have been studying his beach photos, and it is simply uncanny how thin he looks.

The Obamas do a much better job of hiding their pregnancies than the Palins. That alone makes them a better choice in November.

Those arrows are pointing to the Bristol Stump

'You know the kid in Bristol is as sharp as a pistol
When you see the Bristol stump'

"What are those two small bumps in her dress? Is that from a baby, or is it from buckles or straps of some kind?"

No, they're the "wires" that Dubya was wearing to feed him intelligible answers during the debates with Kerry. In this case, they're being used as subliminal programming for the Palin pre-born child.

Maybe we all should "Bone-Up" on some facts before the great debate. http://www.pewterreport.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=40a23c979b59a5b55caaf6ab452b8c85&action=printpage;topic=27505.0

I wonder at which big box store in Wasilla Levi went to buy (charge on somebody's' credit card)the engagement looking ring on Bristol's left ring finger?
Is it real or is it a CZ?
I feel sorry for all the kids. Can you imagine having Sarah and Todd for parents? Ghastly!

Got to give you credit, Jack. You don't shy away.

I want the truth about the candidate for vice president. I don't feel as though we have been given the truth.

Butch said:Incidentally, mp97303, neith Obama or Biden have released their medical records either.

Actually, Obama released his medical records on 5/29/2008. Still waiting for Biden.

Maybe Joe will ask her about it tonight?

the height of the "baby bump" is correct for this stage of pregnancy

It sure wasn't that way for her mother. When her mother was five months pregnant (supposedly), she was skinny as a rail.

Perhaps the issue is paternity, not maternity. This would also fit the facts. Weight might have been controlled and labor induced to conceal the actual conception date. A 6 lb 2 oz baby is full term for some women.

I'm about 4-1/2 months pregnant right now and that's basically what my body looks like right now. With the exception of my chest, because whatever bra she's wearing isn't doing her any favors.

I'm glad you keep bringing up this issue. It is good to know I'm not the only one who believes Sarah P is not Trig's birth mother. Aside from yours, another blog I now check daily is:

http://www.palindeception.com/blog/

Her chest does look weird. Her boobs are huge (perhaps more like a second pregnancy???) but it also looks like there's extra up high on her chest. Not sure what to think about the bumps. That dress sure doesn't look comfortable. The thing that looks most like she's pregnant however is her face. You can tell she's gained weight by her face.

This is horrible that we're discussing this. But something is wrong with this picture and I hope someday we know the truth...we deserve it in this case.

I want the truth about the candidate for vice president. I don't feel as though we have been given the truth.

But we all know we've been given the truth about the Democratic candidate for president.

Actually, Bristol looks like a nursing mother to me. She might be wearing a nursing bra.

I think this is such an idiotic and absurd obsession Jack. Really, who started this pathetic conspiracy theory anyway! Why do you think it's not Sarah's baby? What is there to gain by claiming Bristol's baby as her own? It doesn't alleviate any potential embarrassment in having an unwed, pregnant daughter now that Bristol's pregnant. As for checking out her breasts! How disgustingly invasive. Women's breasts are varied enough let alone when they are pregnant! Doesn't it make more sense for a 40 something mother to give birth to a Down's Syndrome baby than a teenager? This is really ridiculous. I'm done now. Who really cares about the pregnancy? I would rather focus on some real issues. (Besides, my sister-in-law's aunt KNOWS Sarah personally and saw her and talked to her when she was pregnant. People who know her must know the difference. Has anyone in Alaska validated this rumor at all?) This is probably about as real a thought (and I use this term loosely) as the thinking that the NYC Twin Towers coming down was an inside job. Idiocy!!!!!

Who really cares about the pregnancy?

If the governor of Alaska publicly faked pregnancy and childbirth, she should not be vice president of the United States. And so every American voter should care.

Idiocy!!!!!

No.

I don't care about it because it's kind of like reading the tabloids. If I thought there was any valid credibility to it, I would care. But I just don't see any actual evidence coming in to support this. If someone out there has any valid evidence other than shear speculation, than I will start caring then...

There's lots of evidence, and together it's pretty compelling. Here are four sites that collect a lot of the known facts and open questions:

http://www.palindeception.com/index.html

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=9539

http://www.geocities.com/palinbabyquestion/who_is_trig_palins_mother_2.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6855834

You can go with reality-based or faith-based. It's up to you.

BTW, the day there are two babies whose parentages are conclusively confirmed to be as Sarah Palin describes them, I'll apologize to the world.

Conclusively? You mean beyond the birth certificate?

You can't really trust DNA tests, Jack. They are only as good as the chain of custody and the lab's willingness to allow 24 hour monitoring by proctors. And think how similar Bristol's and Sarah's DNA print must look. If there is a vast moose-wing conspiracy, they're clearly sophisticated enough to fake a DNA test.

Maybe we need a Today camera crew in the room with Bristol while she delivers the Levi protege? They could do a really tasteful behind the shoulder shot with a solar filter and light volume: nothing too graphic. Or maybe you could just stand in the delivery room with a webcam, broadcasting the truth directly to tin-foil hat wearers around the world?

Perhaps you could invite Governor Palin to sit in your living room and nurse young Trig until he has a full tummy. And hope he doesn't barf all over the floor, which is what I feel like doing every time this conspiracy rears its ugly head again.

Clearly, a forty-something grandmother wouldn't be producing breast milk if she faked a pregnancy, right?

A quick lookup of incidence of Down Syndrome by maternal age finds 1/41 (or 1/35 per NIH) at age 44 and 1/1923 at age 20 (can't find numbers for a teenage mother).

http://www.altonweb.com/cs/downsyndrome/index.htm?page=risk.html

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/downsyndrome.cfm%5C

From a strictly maternal age standpoint, Sarah has more than a 47X greater chance of being the mother.

Jack, you don't seem like such a crazy gambler.

BTW, the day there are two babies whose parentages are conclusively confirmed to be as Sarah Palin describes them, I'll apologize to the world.

That's the ticket, Jack.

And don't go all Clintonesque on us with "well, that depends on how you define 'conclusively confirmed'.

How about this:

If the teenager has a mis-carriage I'll concede that you may have something real here, and VP Palin should address this issue, since it won't go away until she does.

If the teenager does in fact 'deliver a baby'(1), will you concede that she is that baby's mother?

Is that fair to all involved?

(1) Or are you going to behave as Mister Tee describes? If so, then nothing, no facts of any kind, will convince you that you might be wrong.

>>A quick lookup of incidence of Down Syndrome by maternal age finds 1/41 (or 1/35 per NIH) at age 44 and 1/1923 at age 20 (can't find numbers for a teenage mother).>>

I bet 1/1923 is MUCH, MUCH higher than the incidence of mothers who have a surprise announcement of a pregnancy at 6 months and elect to fly for 8 hours with amniotic leakage during a high risk pregnancy and bypass better-equipped hospitals for a small hometown one for delivery by a now-missing, non-specialist doc with no announcement of the delivery.

>>>I bet 1/1923 is MUCH, MUCH higher ...>>>

Continuing... Any one of the steps in Gov. Palin's pregnancy story is completely plausible and reasonable. All of the steps together stretch the plausibility to the breaking point.

Now add to that the photo of the loving kiss that Levi (link below) gives to baby Trig, Levi being the teen boyfriend of Palin's daughter, and plausibility stretches even more. Some 17-yr old boys might give their girlfriends' baby brothers kisses on their foreheads, but as one more detail in this whole chain it sure looks more like a dad kissing a son than a kid kissing his girlfriend's brother.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=9539

I think little Trig is Bristols'. She doesn't look pregnant now and when Sarah Palin was said to be pregnant, she didn't show.

Anyways, Trig I like. Sarah Palin I don't like. It is sad the little guy was born into such a screwball family.

Jack - this was golden, loved it!

with no announcement of the delivery.

There was an announcement on the hospital website, but they took it down. Try this Google search:

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ETa&q=trig+site%3Amatsuregional.com&btnG=Search

If Trig were Bristol's baby, isn't it likely someone in their town would know this? Was Bristol shipped off somewhere for months and months? I don't really care, I'm just puzzled.

The reports are that Bristol was pulled out of high school for something like five months with "mononucleosis."

Is it just me, or does Bristol look increasingly LESS pregnant?

Check out this video as they arrive for the debate in St. Louis - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/02/sarah-palin-arrives-in-st_n_131315.html

That's not Bristol -- it's Willow.

Bristol's far out of the public eye -- again. Don't expect to see much of her again before the election.

If you look at the video of Palin at the hockey game in Philly, you'll also see Bristol Palin and the little sister. Bristol should be abot 6-7 months along at this point and yet she doesn't appear to be pregnant at all. And they don't seem to care that its obvious as hell that she's not pregnant. This woman is shameless. Did she think that we forgot her daughter was supposed to be pregnant?!!?

Are you sure that was Bristol? Was it Bristol and Piper, or Willow and Piper? Willow's grown up quite a bit and looks a lot like her older sister now (except for the "pregnancy" belly).

Here's the video. That's Willow and Piper Palin. As usual, Bristol is not around.

Bristol has showed up, at least from a distance. She was video'ed going into a hotel in New York City with her mom on Saturday. All the latest sightings are tracked (or should that be trigged) here.

I really think that Trig is Bristol's son. Look at what is known:

1. There are no pictures that show her looking pregnant at 7 months pregnant.

2. Bristol was out of school during the time that she would have started showing until the baby was born.

3. If she was quarantined during this time, how did she get pregnant.

4. What pregnant woman travels late in pregnancy? Palin claims to have had her water break in Texas.

5. What pregnant woman has her water break in Texas and then gets on a plane going to Alaska, especially one who has had multiple births which can lead to faster births.

Bottom line is that the baby is not Sarah's. She claimed the baby in either an effort to help save her daughter's rep, something my grandparents did for their daughter, or she is trying to make sure that her daughter's special needs child is covered under her health insurance policy, this is a kid who may end up with high medical bills, and Bristol has no job.