Excellent tunes -- free! And on your browser right now. Just click on Radio Bojack!



Meter updates every 30 seconds. Click here for
an instant update.
Our complete Portland debt series linked here.


E-mail us here.

About

This page contains a single entry from the blog posted on July 11, 2007 11:14 AM. The previous post in this blog was And now a word from Sam Bowie. The next post in this blog is Bush Outrage of the Day (so far). Many more can be found on the main index page or by looking through the archives.

Links

Law
How Appealing
Bag and Baggage
TaxProf Blog
Mauled Again
Tax.com
Josh Marquis
Native America, Discovered and Conquered
The Yin Blog
OrCon Law
Ernie the Attorney
Conglomerate
Above the Law
The Volokh Conspiracy
Going Concern
myCorporateResource.com
World of Work
The Faculty Lounge

Hap'nin' Guys
Tony Pierce
Parkway Rest Stop
Utterly Boring.com
The Vig
Dwight Jaynes
Various Observations...
The Daily E-Mail
Saving James
Bob Borden
Dingleberry Gazette
The Red Electric
Positively Glorious
The Rural Bus Route
Another Blogger
The World of Today
Izzle Pfaff
Jeremy Blachman
Dean's Rhetorical Flourish
Straight White Guy
Penultimate Life
Furious Nads (b!X)
The Grich
HinesSight
Onfocus
AntSaint
Kevin Allman
Jalpuna
MTPolitics
The Naive Optimist
Beerdrinker.org
As Time Goes By
AboutItAll - Oregon
Jeff Selis
Quark Soup
Alas, a Blog
Whitman Boys
Worldwide Pablo
Misterblue
Tales from the Stump
Two Pennies
Scott Hendison
Sansego
The View Through the Windshield
Mikeyman's Computer Treehouse
Appliance Blog
The Bleat
Rosenblog

Hap'nin' Gals
My Whim is Law
I Count to 4 (Nth of Pril)
Miss in Your Business
Lelo in Nopo
Rose City Journal
Type Like the Wind
Linda Kruschke
Margaret and Helen
Kimberlee Jaynes
Evidently
And Sew It Goes
Mile 73
Frances de Florida
Rainy Day Thoughts
Ready or Not
Marchmoon Chronicles
That Black Girl
Posie Gets Cozy
Lao Ocean Girl
{A}
Cat Eyes
Chantel Williams
Kerianne
Melissa Lion
Gina Rau
Rhi in Pink
Althouse
Frytopia
Ragwaters, Bitters, and Blue Ruin
This Stony Planet
Heather Bea
GirlHacker

Portland and Oregon
Isaac Laquedem
StumptownBlogger
Rantings of a TriMet Bus Driver
Jeff Mapes
Our PDX Network
Amanda Fritz
O City Hall Reporters
RoguePundit
Guilty Carnivore
Metroblogging Portland
Old Town by Larry Norton
A Perspective from Old Town
The Alaunt
Bend Blogs
Lost Oregon
Cafe Unknown
Tin Zeroes
Another Portland Blog
Mark Nelsen's Weather Blog
Oregon Media Central
Portland Daily Photo
Portland Building Ads
Portland Food and Drink.com
Dave Knows Portland
Idaho's Portugal
Alameda Old House History
MLK in Motion
LoveSalem

Retired from Blogging
Portland Freelancer
1221 SW 4th
Twisty
I am a Fish
Here Today
What If...?
Superinky Fixations
Pinktalk
Mellow-Drama

Wonderfully Wacky
Dave Barry
Borowitz Report
Blort
Stuff White People Like
Probably Bad News
The Dullest Blog in the World
Worst of the Web
The Ultimate Insult
Scrabo's Mad World
Lancow's E-mail

Valuable Time-Wasters
My Gallery of Jacks
Litterbox, On the Prowl
Litterbox, Bag of Bones
Litterbox, Scratch
Maukie
Ride That Donkey
Singin' Horses
Rally Monkey
Simon Swears
Strong Bad's E-mail

Oregon News
KGW-TV
The Oregonian
Portland Tribune
KOIN
Willamette Week
KATU
The Sentinel
Southeast Examiner
Northwest Examiner
Sellwood Bee
Mid-County Memo
Eugene Register-Guard
OPB
Topix.net - Portland
Salem Statesman-Journal
Oregon Politico
Portland Business Journal
Daily Journal of Commerce
Oregon Business
KPTV
Portland Info Net
McMinnville News Register
Lake Oswego Review
The Daily Astorian
Bend Bulletin
Corvallis Gazette-Times
Roseburg News-Review
Medford Mail-Tribune
Ashland Daily Tidings
Newport News-Times
Albany Democrat-Herald
The Eugene Weekly
Portland IndyMedia
Sockeye
The Columbian

Music-Related
The Beatles
Bruce Springsteen
Seal
Sting
Joni Mitchell
Ella Fitzgerald
Steve Earle
Joe Ely
Stevie Wonder
Lou Rawls

E-mail, Feeds, 'n' Stuff

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Reader poll: Pot-smoking principal

An elementary school principal out in Vernonia has been busted for smoking pot in a state park. The school superintendent says the principal has his "full support," and that of a majority of the school board. But Vernonia is world-famous for its no-tolerance policy on drugs among its high school athletes.

How long before the pot-smoking Vernonia principal is out of that job?
Less than a week from now
More than a week from now, but before school starts
After school starts but by the end of '07
Sometime in '08
No, he'll still be principal in 2009
  
pollcode.com free polls

Posted at 11:14 AM | Bookmark and Share

Comments (30)

Since smoking pot is not a crime Oregon, but a violation on par with a traffic ticket, why should we care?

Why can't we speak honestly about marijuana, change the student athlete policy, and let the guy spend his free time as he chooses, as long as he isn't hurting anybody or committing any crimes?

It does fall under the Controlled Substance federal law, however. No matter what the state says, it doesnt trump federal law.

And he's supposed to be setting an example for the kids for starters. I would hope his employer has a drug policy like most employers do. (Although technically, his employer is us taxpayers, so I think we should have something to say about it.)

I don't begrudge anyone at any level of responsibility taking an occasional toke in the privacy of their domain. I think the punishment, a violation, fits the crime. However, once you indulge in the public domain, you take a foolish risk of being caught. The unexpected consequences are beyond ones control and the resulting publicity is an example of that truism. Now, an apparently good administrator's skills will be lost. While the administrator must rightfully bear the consequences of his behavior, the "message" to the students has been sent due to lack of discretion on the part of authorities for choosing to alert the media to this unfortunate lapse in judgment. Say bye bye to your career, unless you're an athlete or entertainer.

"It does fall under the Controlled Substance federal law, however. No matter what the state says, it doesnt trump federal law."

I don't think the US Constitution specifically enumerates the power to restrict controlled substances to the federal government.

This is really really boiling into a "states rights" issue, and I perceive it to hit soon as more and more states become "pot friendly".

For a school principal Miller seems rather slow-witted. What is he doing just standing around at 10 p.m. on a Friday night? Except when driving, I am never in a situation where a deputy has any access to me, let alone the opportunity to just walk right up to me and start asking questions. Amazing. And then he has marijuana on him. Doubly amazing. It's a parade of bad decisions.

I've never used pot (or any other illegal controlled substances, for that matter) but I tell ya... I have had it up to here with the "war on drugs" when it comes to cannabis. Little good and much harm is coming from it. Enough already.

The rational thing to do would be for the Vernonia school district to treat this like the minor violation it is under Oregon law, and also remove pot from their (overzealous) testing policy.

I have little hope that will happen, though.

If he was caught drinking in that same spot, what would have happened?

I agree with genop that "once you indulge in the public domain, you take a foolish risk of being caught." Perhaps he is a smart administrator but that was a stupid move. I can't imagine that the public/parents will be forgiving.

New Vernonia school district motto: "It's only pot"?

I don't think so. "Full support," my eye. "More time with his family" will be heard very soon.

I agree that the “war on drugs” is a total farce. We whine here about streetcars while the feds blow tens of billions every year on something that can never be won. I’ve never done drugs (unless you count truly vast quantities of fine local beer) and couldn’t care less what anyone decides to put in their own body. Having said all that, it was a dumb move on his part and he’ll be out in a week or so.

I feel sorry for the guy, although the Vernonia School District gets what it deserves. Stupid no-tolerance policy for kids, but a double standard for adults. He'll be gone in about a week.

If he was caught drinking in that same spot, what would have happened?

Probably nothing, alcohol is legal. Unless he was visibly intoxicated, then I believe there is a law against that too.

Alcohol in a state park late at night is probably not legal.

Yeah, I thought about that after I posted...

Alcohol in a state park late at night is probably not legal.

Sorry Jack, but when it's late in the evening..., whether in a state park or anywhere else, the "intake level" is likely to rise.

"Probably" not a law agin' it.

...yet.

Some state parks wouldn't allow you to be drinking alcohol at 10 p.m.

Apparently that's not the case at Fort Stevens, which includes a large campground and beaches. At least, the official brochure (pdf) doesn't say anything about it.

You wonder why the cops even stopped to talk to the guy...

Yeah, I do wonder.

Why do you think?

Renegade cop???

Beats me. I have no idea what the actual circumstances were, but picture this: Some 40-year-old guy's lurking around the park by himself after dark... cop smells pot...

I think it's very likely that the cop was just doin' his thing at the park - which, if you've camped at state parks, is a GOOD thing - and saw (as you say) some guy lurking at 10PM. When the cop checks him out, smells weed, and asks the guy about it, the "principal" admits it and becomes agitated to the point that the cop cuffs him.

If I'm camping nearby with my kids, I sort of think that's the way it should go down.

Further, I think this is about the principal's principles, or lack thereof, unless I'm mistaken.

...again.

I'm a parent of a child in Mr. Miller's school. He is the best principal I've ever known. Truly top notch. I can't understand why he did such a stupid act. It's frusterating, but there is a huge amount of support among the local parents for him. He's got some explaining to do, but we don't want to lose him.

Someone who is going to smoke pot in public is not a casual user... it just happened to be in his pocket? It's not just a poor sense of judgement, it's a blatant disregard for all of the things he supposed to be against as an educator. If Vernonia doesn't want to lose their pot smokin' pricipal that's up to them. Glad he's not at my kids schools.

If he's as good as those he deals with say he is, I'd be more concerned about the completely legal alcoholics that work as teachers and administrators in our school districts.

If they're all that hot about students not using drugs, I'll assume they've pulled all the soda vending machines, as caffiene is a drug, too.

Then, our state is now requesting that we approve the gouging of tobacco users to support health care for indigent children. That'll make drug addicts responsible for better health care and give the state a vested interest in continuing to be a party to pushing drugs.

That cannabis is illegal is a product of racism in our culture, not the product of an intelligent survey of the effects of cannabis. Compared to alcohol and tobacco, cannabis is considerably more benign....and not addictive.

Not only did he make the poor choice to smoke pot in public, he chose to do it in Clatsop County where they have the most egotistical and media whoring district attorney. This type of case plays right into his goal of being constantly in the limelight.

Jack,

This is why you can’t retire from blogging. We get an actual comment from an actual parent. MC is probably right that he is great at what he does, however, in this bumper sticker/zero tolerance world we live in he is almost certainly toast.

...it's a blatant disregard for all of the things he supposed to be against as an educator.

Would you say that if he were caught speeding? Because legally, it's on par with that. Everybody speeds in public. Habitually. And nobody makes a peep (except to complain if they get caught). Both types of offense are the same weight under the law.

If we don't teach our children the truth about marijuana, we're fooling ourselves, not them.

Of course principals do it.

So do professional athletes, lawyers, cops, teachers, senators, singers, mayors, janitors, engineers, cooks, journalists, doctors and judges.

Vernonia schools' privacy-invading student athlete drug policy is as wrong as the federal laws Oregon rejected with its more enlightened and tolerant classification of pot.

I just attended the school board meeting in Vernonia. Mr. Miller has the full support of the school board and of the superintendent. This was a one-time bad judgement call on the part of Mr. Miller and he will suffer consequences, but not lose his job. Good call Mr. Cox!

now they know why the vending machines at school were always out of Doritos.


as a former student and athlete under mr. miller; i agree with the school board and the people of vernonia. he was always an outstand teacher and a supportive coach

Kids, don't smoke pot.

It's better as steeped tea; or crushed and sprinkled like a spice on foods, such as scrambled eggs, peanut butter and honey sandwiches.

And, kids, don't drink alcohol to excess, but do have a glass of wine with dinner, or a beer, fairly often.

There are substitutes for nicotine and caffiene, look in the naturopathic stores and references.

And kids, hugs boost the immune system.

Teach, your parents well, your father's health, will slowly go by.
And so, become your dreams, the ones they picked, the ones you know by.

So when exactly did the new alcohol in parks law pass? I heard that the cases we getting dismissed because of the alcohol percentage they originally had illegal was higher than beer. It was around 14% But when did they issue the new law where you couldn't drink beer in oregon parks?

Sponsors



We accept advertising through Blogads. If you're interested, click the "Advertise here" link above, or go here to place your ad through Blogads. For assistance, e-mail me here; I'd be glad to help. Reach lots of viewers -- we're up to about 2,800 unique visits a day, and more than 44,000 page views a week (as of October 26). Our rates are dirt cheap for the exposure you'll get!

As a lawyer/blogger, I get
to be a member of:



In Vino Veritas

Pavin & Riley, Merlot 2006
David Hill, Estate Pinot Noir, Barrel Select 2006
Castle Rock, Paso Robles Cabernet 2006
Magnificent, Cabernet, Steak House 2008
Conundrum 2008
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1998
Saint Cosme, Cotes-du-Rhone 2007
La Granja, Tempranillo 360, 2008
Santa Rita, Mendalla Real Cabernet 2006
Columbia Crest, Grand Estates Merlot 2006
Andezon, Cotes-du-Rhone 2007
Collegiata, Montepulciano d'Abruzzo
Troon, Druid's Fluid 2008
La Granja, Tempranillo 2008
Monte Antico, Toscana 2006
Vieux Papes, Blanc de Blancs
Beaulieu, Georges De Latour Cabernet 1995
Scott Paul, Pinot Noir, La Paulée, 2006
Woodbridge, Chardonnay
Paranga, Kir-Yianni 2005
L. Guigal, Cotes du Rhone Rose 2007
Newman's Own, Cabernet 2007
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Columbia Valley Merlot 2005
Monte Antico, Toscana Red 2006
Saint Cosme, Cotes-du-Rhone 2007
Vins Auvigne, Macon-Fuisse 2007
Vina Gormaz, Tempranillo 2007
Chandon, Brut Classic
Dom Martinho, Tinto 2005
Chateau St. Jean, Cabernet, California 2007
Kirkland, Napa Cabernet 2007
Revelry, The Reveler, 2007
Joseph Drouhin, Chablis 2006
Altos Las Hormigas, Mendoza Malbec 2008
Alodio, Ribeira Sacra Mencia 2007
Charles Smith, Kung Fu Girl Riesling 2008
Kiona, Lemberger 2006
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Columbia Valley Merlot 2005
Gloria Ferrer, Sonoma Brut
Kirkland, Napa Valley Meritage 2006
Abacela, Tempranillo 2006
Woodward Canyon, Columbia Valley Red
Santa Margherita, Pinot Grigio 2007
Mas Donis Barrica, Celler de Capcanes Red, 2005
Three Rivers, Merlot 2006
Raptor Ridge, Pinot Gris 2008
Lezaun, Rosado, Navarra
Lezaun, Red, Navarra
Hedges, Three Vineyards, Red Mountain 2005
Raptor Ridge, Pinot Gris 2008
Vega Sindoa, Cabernet-Tempranillo 2006
Inama, Soave Classico 2007
Alois Lageder, Lagrein Rosato 2008
Broglia, Gavi 2007
Marqués de Cáceres, Rioja Rose 2008
Spaltagna, Riserva Pinot Noir 2008
Portuga, Rose 2008
Warre's Warrior Port
Lange, Pinot Noir 2007
Chateau Guiraud, Le G, 2007
Falset, Garnacha Rose, Montsant 2006
Castello di Bossi, Chianti Classico 2004
Domaine Chandon, Pinot Noir, La Riviere Sonoma 2006
Brazin, Old Vine Zinfandel, Lodi 2006
B.R. Cohn, Silver Label Cabernet 2006
Casillero del Diablo, Cabernet 2007
Gentil Hugel, Alsace 2006
Mesoneros de Castilla, Ribero del Duero, Rosado 2008
Cor, Momentum 2007
Santa Margherita, Pinot Grigio 2006
Rubico, Lacrima di Morro d'Alba 2007
Gilstrap Brothers, Reserve Merlot 2003
Conundrum 2007
Chandler Reach, 36 Red
Santa Rita, Reserve Cabernet 2005
Marietta, Old Vine Red Lot 47
L'Ecole No. 41, Recess Red 2006
Dom Martinho, Red 2004
Beaulieu, Georges Latour 1994
Caymus, Cabernet 1995
Columbia Winery, Merlot 2005
Bergevin Lane, Columbia Valley Cabernet 2005
Savigny-les-Beaune, Les Lavieres 2003
David Hill, Reserve Merlot, Rogue Valley 2006
Educated Guess, Cabernet 2006
Maquis Lien, Red 2005
Charles Smith, Kung Fu Girl Riesling 2007
David Hill, Farmhouse White
Robert Mondavi Solaire, Cabernet 2005
Castello Monaci, Liante, Salice Salentino 2006
Ricardo Santos, Malbec 2006
Quinta da Espiga, Tinto 2006
Charles Smith, Holy Cow Merlot 2006
Charles Smith, Boom Boom Syrah 2006
Charles Smith, The Honorable Pinot Gris 2007
Santa Rita, Cabernet Reserva 2005
King Estate, Pinot Gris 2007
Gloria, Douro, Tinto 2002
Bogle, Petite Sirah Port, Clarksburg 2005
Cardwell Hill, Pinot Noir 2004
Silkwood, Red Duet Cabernet-Syrah 2004
Portuga, Vinho Branco 2006, 2007
Osborne, Solaz 2004
Santa Rita, Cabernet, Reserva 2005
Penfold's, Koonunga Hill, Shiraz Cabernet 2006
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Cabernet, Indian Wells 2004
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Merlot, Horse Heaven Hills 2004
Hannah Nicole, Red 2004
Penfold's, Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet 2005
Protocolo, Red 2005
Woodbridge, Chardonnay 2006
Portuga, Vinho Branco 2006
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1998
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1996
Kirkland, Roogle Shiraz 2004
Garda, Classico Chiaretto
A to Z, Oregon Pinot Gris 2005
I Giusti & Zanza, Nemorino 2006
Treana, Marsanne-Viognier, Central Coast 2005
Fife, Syrah, "Stanford" 2000
B.R. Cohn, Silver Label Cabernet 2005

The Occasional Book

F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby
William Shakespeare - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Ivan Doig - Bucking the Sun
Penda Diakité - I Lost My Tooth in Africa
Grace Lin - The Year of the Rat
Oscar Hijuelos - Mr. Ives' Christmas
Madeline L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
Steven Hart - The Last Three Miles
David Sedaris - Me Talk Pretty One Day
Karen Armstrong - The Spiral Staircase
Charles Larson - The Portland Murders
Adrian Wojnarowski - The Miracle of St. Anthony
William H. Colby - Long Goodbye
Steven D. Stark - Meet the Beatles
Phil Stanford - Portland Confidential
Rick Moody - Garden State
Jonathan Schwartz - All in Good Time
David Sedaris - Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim
Anthony Holden - Big Deal
Robert J. Spitzer - The Spirit of Leadership
James McManus - Positively Fifth Street
Jeff Noon - Vurt

Road Work

Miles run year to date: 0
At this date last year: 0
Total run in 2009: 67
In 2008: 28
In 2007: 113
In 2006: 100
In 2005: 149
In 2004: 204
In 2003: 269
Clicky Web Analytics