Take an absurd Portland "planner" survey so that the city can claim to have sought community input before doing what the developers want. One side benefit: You'll get to sample first hand some of the most manipulative questions you've ever encountered. "Apartment bunkers: Excellent, great, or very good?"
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Its bad enough to have our home and neighborhood values destroyed by the planners. Its quite another " To pay more for it."
Lets set up an underground fort to meet and discuss amongst ourselves things like hiring " Dirtbags for hire ."
D.F.H. would meet and greet all tenants of the Concrete Bunkers as they come and go.
Remember the No Fur Folks?
I will build D.F.H. if I have too. First meeting with Chief Reese to discuss his fee to look away AND protect my peoples.
With the cities new sick leave policy however we will not come cheap. BUT, we will save your hood.
Anyone know where I can get a White horse cheap ?
Question 3 asks how the city should "regulate development to support a healthy economy and a healthy environment in and around industrial areas." My favorite of the five allowed choices is this: "Zone more land for industrial development; for instance rezone a golf course for industrial use and natural resource protection, or land currently designated for retail, office or other commercial uses for industrial use."
The words "for instance rezone a golf course" refer to the Colwood Golf Course. It's amusing to see the city make a quasi-judicial land use decision through an online survey.
Issac, I thought that the golf course reference was really odd. Hilarious.
On a serious note, I am disturbed by this "push poll."
The city is broke, but we have time & money to poll residents about whether we should have rebates and incentives for privately owned businesses. Remember, these programs create work for administrators. Very high overhead.
Mamacita, I noticed that a lot of the responses to the questions included compound answers. A question that read "How do you think we should improve X?" is followed by answers like "We should do A and B" so that you can't support A without also supporting B. To stretch this technique, imagine this question: "Many senior citizens who live in Portland are concerned about finances and their ability to afford to stay here, and also about public safety. How should we address this problem?" for which one of the answers might be "Protect Social Security and impose the death penalty for purse-snatchers."
Wait until they announce the results demonstrating "overwhelming public support" for some real amusement. I don't know why they bother with these anymore, they should just go ahead and announce the results they want, then claim any dissenters must've simply not been paying attention.
Isaac has it right about "compound" questions with two, sometimes three lead in assumptions then the real question. Like "Reduce longstanding inequities by making sure that services meet minimum standards, especially low income communities....."...then the real question(s).
Embarrassment, and we pay for this in so many ways.
The "survey monkey" says it all! They lost me at the first question asking how I would spend $100 on infrastructure. Oh please! Spare me!
And I don't want the city tracking my email either!
The "How would you spend $100 on infrastructure" was missing some choices: plan a charrette, hire a consultant, organize a focus group, and form a new bureau.
Issac, did you hear about city sponsored "envisoning" sessions in local church basements?
Is there a choice where we can drop some dried shitake mushrooms and mind meld with Unitarians?
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Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills Pinot Grigio 2011
Avignonesi, Montepulciano 2004
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Villa Antinori, Toscana 2007
Mercedes Eguren, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Lorelle, Columbia Valley Cabernet 2011
Purple Moon, Merlot 2011
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Abacela, Vintner's Blend No. 12
Opula Red Blend 2010
Liberte, Pinot Noir 2010
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Indian Wells Red Blend 2010
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Famille Perrin, Cotes du Rhone Villages 2010
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14 Hands, Hot to Trot White Blend
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La Vielle Ferme, Rose 2011
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14 Hands, Hot to Trot Red 2009
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Three Rivers, River's Red 2008
Kirkland, Alexander Valley Merlot 2008
Muga, Rioja Rose 2010
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Neil Young - Waging Heavy Peace
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Kurt Vonnegut Jr. - Slaughterhouse Five
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Jack London - The House of Pride, and Other Tales of Hawaii
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Colum McCann - Let the Great World Spin
Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince
Harper Lee - To Kill a Mockingbird
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Sharon Creech - Walk Two Moons
Keith Richards - Life
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Mark Herrmann - The Curmudgeon's Guide to Practicing Law
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Madeline L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
Steven Hart - The Last Three Miles
David Sedaris - Me Talk Pretty One Day
Karen Armstrong - The Spiral Staircase
Charles Larson - The Portland Murders
Adrian Wojnarowski - The Miracle of St. Anthony
William H. Colby - Long Goodbye
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Phil Stanford - Portland Confidential
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David Sedaris - Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim
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Road Work
Miles run year to date: 29
At this date last year: 66
Total run in 2012: 129
In 2011: 113
In 2010: 125
In 2009: 67
In 2008: 28
In 2007: 113
In 2006: 100
In 2005: 149
In 2004: 204
In 2003: 269
Comments (14)
Its bad enough to have our home and neighborhood values destroyed by the planners. Its quite another " To pay more for it."
Lets set up an underground fort to meet and discuss amongst ourselves things like hiring " Dirtbags for hire ."
D.F.H. would meet and greet all tenants of the Concrete Bunkers as they come and go.
Remember the No Fur Folks?
I will build D.F.H. if I have too. First meeting with Chief Reese to discuss his fee to look away AND protect my peoples.
With the cities new sick leave policy however we will not come cheap. BUT, we will save your hood.
Anyone know where I can get a White horse cheap ?
Posted by fancypants | March 15, 2013 8:27 AM
The survey results become part of the public record.
Please take it- for yucks.
Posted by Mamacita | March 15, 2013 8:30 AM
When they asked for race I checked all the boxes and filled in the "other" box with the word, human.
Posted by tankfixer | March 15, 2013 8:53 AM
Question 3 asks how the city should "regulate development to support a healthy economy and a healthy environment in and around industrial areas." My favorite of the five allowed choices is this: "Zone more land for industrial development; for instance rezone a golf course for industrial use and natural resource protection, or land currently designated for retail, office or other commercial uses for industrial use."
The words "for instance rezone a golf course" refer to the Colwood Golf Course. It's amusing to see the city make a quasi-judicial land use decision through an online survey.
Posted by Isaac Laquedem | March 15, 2013 8:56 AM
Issac, I thought that the golf course reference was really odd. Hilarious.
On a serious note, I am disturbed by this "push poll."
The city is broke, but we have time & money to poll residents about whether we should have rebates and incentives for privately owned businesses. Remember, these programs create work for administrators. Very high overhead.
Posted by Mamacita | March 15, 2013 9:17 AM
Mamacita, I noticed that a lot of the responses to the questions included compound answers. A question that read "How do you think we should improve X?" is followed by answers like "We should do A and B" so that you can't support A without also supporting B. To stretch this technique, imagine this question: "Many senior citizens who live in Portland are concerned about finances and their ability to afford to stay here, and also about public safety. How should we address this problem?" for which one of the answers might be "Protect Social Security and impose the death penalty for purse-snatchers."
Posted by Isaac Laquedem | March 15, 2013 9:25 AM
Wait until they announce the results demonstrating "overwhelming public support" for some real amusement. I don't know why they bother with these anymore, they should just go ahead and announce the results they want, then claim any dissenters must've simply not been paying attention.
Posted by Mr. Grumpy | March 15, 2013 9:38 AM
Totally absurd push poll. CoP should be ashamed.
Isaac has it right about "compound" questions with two, sometimes three lead in assumptions then the real question. Like "Reduce longstanding inequities by making sure that services meet minimum standards, especially low income communities....."...then the real question(s).
Embarrassment, and we pay for this in so many ways.
Posted by lw | March 15, 2013 9:46 AM
The "survey monkey" says it all! They lost me at the first question asking how I would spend $100 on infrastructure. Oh please! Spare me!
And I don't want the city tracking my email either!
Posted by Portland Native | March 15, 2013 11:22 AM
The "How would you spend $100 on infrastructure" was missing some choices: plan a charrette, hire a consultant, organize a focus group, and form a new bureau.
Posted by Isaac Laquedem | March 15, 2013 12:12 PM
Issac, did you hear about city sponsored "envisoning" sessions in local church basements?
Is there a choice where we can drop some dried shitake mushrooms and mind meld with Unitarians?
Posted by Mamacita | March 15, 2013 6:30 PM
How about a survey that has:
None of the above.
What part of NO don't you understand?
Posted by clinamen | March 15, 2013 6:48 PM
Amen! clinamen
Posted by Portland Native | March 15, 2013 7:54 PM
I put that we speak Klingon at home.
I also gave up on the comments.
I did suggest they just buy the planners Sim City, so they could play with that instead of our streets and sanity.
Posted by Roy | March 16, 2013 12:52 PM