In a dramatic illustration of how well Oregon's vote-by-mail system is working, the state has prosecuted a guy for seeming to try to buy other people's votes. This crackdown teaches us all that if you want to fill out somebody else's ballot for them in Oregon, don't use Craigslist to ask strangers to let you do it.
"Mr. Hirschman gave a full confession.... He stated in his interview and at trial that he is an Internet 'troll' and that he posted the ad to 'agitate' and cause a stir."
"It's equivalent to joking about a bomb in an airport when you're going through the facility. There are some things you don't joke about."
And come on -- this is vote-by-mail. It's enough of a joke all by itself. It doesn't need anybody else's help to be utterly ridiculous.
Comments (8)
"Some folks might argue that this was a minor case and not worth prosecuting," Secretary of State Kate Brown told a legislative committee last week. "I have to tell you, I wholeheartedly disagree. Every voting fraud case is worth prosecuting because it sends a really strong message to potential wrongdoers as well as to the public."
Oh, and Charlie Hales...never heard of him.
I have to yawn at this.
The ad said "let us fill it out then you sign, then we hand it to the volunteer in the voting booth," the ad said. "Its that simple! Then you get $20."
He was offering to fill it out and then get the signature. Presumably that means approval of the selections?
OK so he stepped over to craigslist with a stupid stunt proposing to get $20 for each ballot assistance.
But who doesn't know the filling out of ballots by others is rampant in dorm rooms, senior facilities, kitchen tables etc.?
Friends, family, acquaintances, activists are always offering to "assist" with vote by mail ballots . Then approve is had by signing and it's sent in or delivered.
The 2000 election was the first time vote by mail was used in a general election. I drove to MULTCO's election office on SE Morrison to turn in my ballot, and there was such a traffic line they had an election official out on the sidewalk taking ballots from drivers out their car windows. The car ahead of me handed over a stack of ballots several inches thick. Quite disturbing. I've been more than dubious about the integrity of vote by mail ever since.
And that's not even getting to the other numerous potential ponts of failure and ways this system can be and likely is being gamed on the inside.
This is the most obscene comment yet from the Secretary of State concerning voter fraud when the much more serious case regarding Charlie Hales is allowed to pass without waiting for any further court findings which surely must follow when a formal Complaint has been filed.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. "
Selective responsibility from our Secretary of State?
Instead apparently, now a concerned citizen will have to bear the costs of taking this Complaint and allegations to court.
There is way too much of this going on when citizens have to double and triple up because our elected officials won't do their job they took the oath to do.
For example, right now take a look at Kelly Butte. The only way apparently to have stopped this would have been for citizens to bear the costs of an injunction, and I know some who considered this, as the PWB has been hell bent to do another storage tank costing us another $90 million. The irony is that the city has said it needed to be done according to the LT2 rule(long term storage) however, that LT2 rule is now being reviewed and the tank may not be required. They couldn't wait, could they?
Is a group in an attempt to save their neighborhood from the impact of apartment bunkers going to LUBA? I am not sure of that status, if some have gone or are planning to take their concerns to LUBA, and need an update from folks in those areas.
Will the neighbors at Hayden Island have to take legal action to save their neighborhood?
I believe some citizens in the Lents area went to LUBA regarding the food waste storage project there, as I recall, that didn't turn out in their favor, but correct me if wrong on that and give updates.
The list is long, there must be other areas there citizens are having to think long and hard about what to do and the costs involved when our elected officials are not on our side.
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Comments (8)
"Some folks might argue that this was a minor case and not worth prosecuting," Secretary of State Kate Brown told a legislative committee last week. "I have to tell you, I wholeheartedly disagree. Every voting fraud case is worth prosecuting because it sends a really strong message to potential wrongdoers as well as to the public."
Oh, and Charlie Hales...never heard of him.
Posted by Cass | February 11, 2013 9:05 AM
I have to yawn at this.
The ad said "let us fill it out then you sign, then we hand it to the volunteer in the voting booth," the ad said. "Its that simple! Then you get $20."
He was offering to fill it out and then get the signature. Presumably that means approval of the selections?
OK so he stepped over to craigslist with a stupid stunt proposing to get $20 for each ballot assistance.
But who doesn't know the filling out of ballots by others is rampant in dorm rooms, senior facilities, kitchen tables etc.?
Friends, family, acquaintances, activists are always offering to "assist" with vote by mail ballots . Then approve is had by signing and it's sent in or delivered.
Posted by Anon | February 11, 2013 11:23 AM
The 2000 election was the first time vote by mail was used in a general election. I drove to MULTCO's election office on SE Morrison to turn in my ballot, and there was such a traffic line they had an election official out on the sidewalk taking ballots from drivers out their car windows. The car ahead of me handed over a stack of ballots several inches thick. Quite disturbing. I've been more than dubious about the integrity of vote by mail ever since.
And that's not even getting to the other numerous potential ponts of failure and ways this system can be and likely is being gamed on the inside.
Posted by G Joubert | February 11, 2013 11:49 AM
This is the most obscene comment yet from the Secretary of State concerning voter fraud when the much more serious case regarding Charlie Hales is allowed to pass without waiting for any further court findings which surely must follow when a formal Complaint has been filed.
Posted by Starbuck | February 11, 2013 12:15 PM
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. "
Posted by tankfixer | February 11, 2013 12:38 PM
He who controls the software controls the race.
Posted by Nolo | February 11, 2013 1:51 PM
Selective responsibility from our Secretary of State?
Instead apparently, now a concerned citizen will have to bear the costs of taking this Complaint and allegations to court.
There is way too much of this going on when citizens have to double and triple up because our elected officials won't do their job they took the oath to do.
For example, right now take a look at Kelly Butte. The only way apparently to have stopped this would have been for citizens to bear the costs of an injunction, and I know some who considered this, as the PWB has been hell bent to do another storage tank costing us another $90 million. The irony is that the city has said it needed to be done according to the LT2 rule(long term storage) however, that LT2 rule is now being reviewed and the tank may not be required. They couldn't wait, could they?
Is a group in an attempt to save their neighborhood from the impact of apartment bunkers going to LUBA? I am not sure of that status, if some have gone or are planning to take their concerns to LUBA, and need an update from folks in those areas.
Will the neighbors at Hayden Island have to take legal action to save their neighborhood?
I believe some citizens in the Lents area went to LUBA regarding the food waste storage project there, as I recall, that didn't turn out in their favor, but correct me if wrong on that and give updates.
The list is long, there must be other areas there citizens are having to think long and hard about what to do and the costs involved when our elected officials are not on our side.
Posted by clinamen | February 11, 2013 4:30 PM
Then there is how much she did not care about irregularities in the R primary.
Changing the rules when the chumps show up to vote has become procedure if the chumps are not voting as the machine wants.
I doubt D's going against their machine would come out any better.
Posted by JadeQueen | February 13, 2013 5:32 PM