It gives his dad something to do.

Both of those cases are incredibly sad. I am sure there are many others equally deserving of being solved. In Kyron's case, I believe all of the good guys involved have done their best. The Bergeson case, as I recall, got off to a bad start at the crime scene as the death was originally deemed accidental or by natural causes. That one should have been handled better.

Sometimes hope is all families have left. Why take that away from them?

"Sometimes hope is all families have left."

I'd ask Shawnee Vaughn's family about the lawyers not telling them where she was buried and how they felt.

Better yet, ask Houze what he knows that Terri told him.

Lawyers have a duty to keep their clients' secrets. If you don't like that system, you may want to relocate to North Korea.

I'd ask Shawnee Vaughn's family about the lawyers not telling them where she was buried and how they felt.

I'm sure they feel horrible, and I don't blame them, but our Constitution wasn't written to make everyone feel good.

Jack, informed friends "inside" the criminal justice community believe the following about these cases: An arrest will be made in the Kyron case, most likely because an individual involved with the disappearance will ultimately make a mistake. That said, it is believed that Terry Horman's gardener buddy (name?)knows nothing useful and presumed "cell phone tower" evidence is essentially worthless in this case. As for the FPD, there is some resignation that it was actually random, e.g. the work of an opportunistic stranger and possibly serial killer. Not much optimism on that one.

That sounds like two loads of bullpuckey to me. The perp on Kyron (of course, we don't [cough cough] know who that is) is likely well coached and out of sight -- and might not make enough mistakes to support a collar. Nancy B. knew a lot of dirt on a lot of people, and she represented some real wackos in her career. That was no random killing.

My guess is they are positioning for a "no body" homicide. There have been a few of these successfully prosecuted in Oregon, but they take a bit of ground work. And it is even more difficult with a child than an adult.

Usually, the police and prosecutors go through a process that I believe is called "due diligence". They need to show that the victim is not involved in any part of the regular pattern of their life. In the case of an adult, that means no telephone activity, no credit card activity, no contact with friends, family, co-workers, etc. No activity on their Social Security Account, no taxes collected, all of those things that are a normal part of life. Since a child is normally not involved in many of those activities, and children can and do often run away, law enforcement has to show a good faith effort to exhaust all opportunities to locate the missing peron. In short, they need to be able to demonstrate to a court that the missing person is, in fact, dead. Only at that point can they proceed with prosecuting the case against the suspect, if one has been developed, which is obvious in this case. Probably the same steps can also be useful in a civil case.

No, I don't think I am giving the defense any information they don't already have. If Houze is worth the price I have heard he charges, I am sure he is well aware of what is happening. Just my opinion. And for the record, I am not nor have I been involved in the investigation of this case.

Police learned that Kyron's stepmother once tried to hire a hitman to murder Kaine Horman. If she was responsible for the kidnapping or death of the boy, she has obviously done an excellent job of covering up physical and electronic evidence of it. The only person who seems to be getting anywhere is Kyron's mother and her Portland attorney Elden Rosenthal. They have issued a bunch of deposition subpoenas to turn up the heat, but the judge in her civil case recently stayed proceedings when the police intervened. Perhaps there is some real movement in the police investigation, otherwise I hope Rosenthal's case can proceed.

In both the Kyron and Bergeson cases, I no longer trust anything anyone in law enforcement says, on or off the record.

Dave J:

"I'm sure they feel horrible, and I don't blame them, but our Constitution wasn't written to make everyone feel good."

Remember that when the Senator says, "Nobody needs an assault rifle."

Is it JayCee Dugard that was captured for over a decade from Lake Tahoe?

There are sick people out there who do the weirdest things.

I hope he is not dead. I hope that he gets to reunite with his parents.

Having said that, The school from which he disappeared took a lot of heat for losing Kyron, when evidence points towards a possibly psycho stepmom who possibly did a very sick thing.