So stop worrying about a bunch of bus drivers.
We are chump change compared to the cops.
And as an extra bonus, we don't shoot people.

That is even more than the $100 million/yr property tax diverted to the PDC and other UR blood suckers.

Thanks
JK

OK, 6b.

When Leonard gave us that cock-n-bull story about his measure 3 or so years ago. Remember we only needed a prop tax increase for 30 years to pay for his pension.

This guy is going to be expensive long after he's gone. PWB is already sucking $40M a year more out rate payers more than they did 4 years ago.

I'm not sure I would divide $2,880,000,000 by 600,000 residents. Better to divide it by the number of property taxpayers, because it's coming out of their hides. At least until they introduce Portland's new "Public Safety Income Tax".

Praise, honor and a bronze statue on the Eastbank Esplanade go to Vera Katz, who I believe negotiated this pension problem. And Willy Week correctly pointed this out at the time.

"
Attained Age Normal

Characteristics
Aggregate
Projected Benefit
Level Percentage for normal cost
Separate Past Service Benefit
The past service benefits for all participants, defined as in the Unit Credit method, are lumped and spread evenly over a fixed period of years. The current service cost is expressed as a percentage of payroll as in the aggregate method.
Entry Age Normal

Also called: Individual Level Cost with Supplemental Liability
Characteristics
Individual
Projected Benefit
Level Payment
Separate Past Service Benefit
The cost of the full benefit for each participant is first spread as a level amount each year, from year of hire to year of retirement. In the years from the start of the plan until the individual retires, this amount is called the normal cost. The cost from hire to the start of the plan is then reassigned to a fixed period of time, generally 10 to 30 years. This becomes the supplemental cost."

From Cal State LA Accounting 503 course materials
http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/hwarren/a503/actuari2.htm

If you want a mathier explanation you could take a look at this: Fundamentals of Pension Funding - Society of Actuaries

http://www.soa.org/library/monographs/50th-anniversary/society-of-actuaries-50th-anniversary/1999/january/m-av99-1-02.pdf

I think it will eventually become clear that the politicians that created this mess could've cared less whether or not these commitments could ever possibly be met, they simply got something that they wanted out of it at the time.

State of Oregon = state of no accountability.

Mr. Grumpy:
It's breaking here, but Oregon for sure is not the only state of no accountability, in a nation of no accountability.

It's going to be real ugly in some places when the fit hits the shan.

What is going to happen when those who say 6B push back at paying the bill when it comes due? Not even the well managed states (Indiana, for instance) are 100% immune.

Not looking forward to what happens.

It's Mike

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Wouldn't a better approach to have placed Portland fire and police into the PERS system, as this puts it out of the hands of the especially financially irresponsible Portland City Hall? At least the PERS system is under some significant review for change.

Am I the only one that doesn't know what this 6B and 6C code is all about? Is that the nonprofit tax break code or something?

https://bojack.org/2013/01/dirty_little_portland_chapter.html#comment-210130

I certainly bow to experts, but from the days I used to work with actuaries and accountants on these type issues, my recollection is that anything which was referenced as normal cost did a decent job at synching with liabilities as they are incurred. The supplemental liability cost part referenced by k2, if it underlies the Portland numbers, suggests there may be some catch up for insufficient past accounting of accrued retirement liabilities amortized over a future period of time, judgmentally determined.

In a nutshell:

6B.= Stop your whining, you voted for them, . . .
6C.= No I didn't vote for them . . .

The only way to fix this pension system is to take it out of the hides of those already retired. The probability that this city council will ever do that is really close to zero. Time for another on-side kick.

This is what happens when the people who negotiate the contract have no skin in the game. The politicians who negotiate with the unions are not personally responsible for what they promise. The worst that could happen to them is to not be re-elected; their pockets aren't affected at all.

If we could go back to the elected and non-elected officials who negotiated these contracts, and the boards or mayors or whatever who approved them contracts, and make them personally responsible for the benefits they approved, that would satisfy my sense of justice just fine.

If this is the work of multiple politicians, there is one primary architect. Randy Leonard. While serving in the State Legislature in the 90's he made some stealthy tweaks to the state collective bargaining laws as well as the workers compensation laws with respect to police and fire. For example, certain illnesses were by state law deemed automatically "work related" for fire fighters thereby folding all manner of additional maladies under the Police and Fire Disability Fund (same as the pension fund) regardless of whether they were, in actuality, caused by their work. A classic example is one former President of the Portland Firefighters Association (PFFA) developed lung cancer. He was a lifelong smoker, but his illness was paid for by Portland's uber rich disability fund owing to the state law Randy had crafted while in the Oregon Legislature.

Knowing how he had tweaked the state law in so many small corners of the ORS, once he became a member of City Council he then went about "suggesting" changes to City policies or certain provisions to the Police and Fire labor contracts to dovetail with his legislative work.

He was a master. Randy spent two and half decades screwing Portland taxpayers. He was so good at it, it will take five decades to dig out from under Randy's stealthy largess.