We don't know why they can't just honor its old tickets, but Portland's insolvent transit agency is calling them in, with a December 31 deadline. We traded our last two in yesterday. The new ones have to have the foil security strip embedded.
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Typical rip-off company trick. Not legal since there was no such terms when those tix were purchased. Tri-Met nickles & dimes its riders, and tosses bags of public cash around to a privileged few in the "development" "community". Everyone who gets stuck after 12/31/12 should take them to small claims court. One at a time. See how Tri-Met's planning geniuses like those apples.
When I first met my wife over 20 years we were walking through downtown on a first date and I noticed she collected bus transfers. I asked her what she did with them and she told me that she re-used them. She had this filing system where she had them filed by the color strip on the transfer and by the time left on the transfer. The transfers weren't dated and they recycled the colors week to week so she could use the old transfers later. I thought that was so clever that I fell in love with her right on the spot.
Is this a preview of what we can expect in a few years when they call in all of the "OLD US CURRENCY"?
I see no reason why ANY another "...insolvent government agency..." cannot do the exact same thing when their old scrip is deemed worthless.
Of course a short notice currency turn in would be cloaked in language of, "... to trap drug dealers, tax evaders and counterfeiters..." . That recent theft of a large quantity of yet ANOTHER version of "NEW" $ 100 bill should be a clue.
And how many precious resources are being used to put this foil strip into throw-away tickets?
How is THAT green?
"Green" would be going to stored value, reusable cards. Debit Cards.
You know, like:
ORCA (in Seattle)
Oyster Card (in London)
Metrocard (in New York)
Tap (in Los Angeles)
Clipper Card (in the Bay Area)
Portland's TriMet seems to be among a quickly diminishing cadre of transit agencies (mostly small agencies) that are eschewing the popularity of these cards and sticking to easily duplicated paper passes and transfers. I'm surprised TriMet still doesn't use tokens... These cards, unlike TriMet's current system of cash fares on buses/mostly bank cards on MAX/WES don't discriminate against any particular group of user, are easily used by both monthly passholders (as the cards can be reloaded by the employer), by the poor (as the cards can be easily reloaded by social service agencies), by frequent riders and by occasional riders (pay just what you need). It eliminates many of the TVM problems, speeds up the boarding process...and best of all, it's "green" (no paper, no garbage).
But TriMet's too busy focusing on their smartphone application (sucks if you are one of the millions of people without a smartphone).
I nominate Eric H. for the Tri-Met Board. He can obviously step right in and introdouce competency to that cluster of phoney baloneys & nincompoops. Then they can start cleaning house at the management level.
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Comments (11)
Typical rip-off company trick. Not legal since there was no such terms when those tix were purchased. Tri-Met nickles & dimes its riders, and tosses bags of public cash around to a privileged few in the "development" "community". Everyone who gets stuck after 12/31/12 should take them to small claims court. One at a time. See how Tri-Met's planning geniuses like those apples.
Posted by Mojo | December 7, 2012 10:00 AM
And how many precious resources are being used to put this foil strip into throw-away tickets?
How is THAT green?
Who is printing up fraudulent tickets anyway? It's not like there are any fare inspectors...
Posted by MachineShedFred | December 7, 2012 10:13 AM
You have to remember not everyone exclusively uses MAX, and the bus drivers are sort of fare inspectors...
I know of someone who printed up fake tickets, though he was more for making up fake monthly passes, as they are worth more.
Posted by Michael | December 7, 2012 10:17 AM
What about the fakes on the Tri-Met board?
Posted by Mojo | December 7, 2012 10:22 AM
When I first met my wife over 20 years we were walking through downtown on a first date and I noticed she collected bus transfers. I asked her what she did with them and she told me that she re-used them. She had this filing system where she had them filed by the color strip on the transfer and by the time left on the transfer. The transfers weren't dated and they recycled the colors week to week so she could use the old transfers later. I thought that was so clever that I fell in love with her right on the spot.
Posted by Tom | December 7, 2012 10:38 AM
I thought you couldn't trade them in after last April, so I threw mine away.
Posted by JohnH | December 7, 2012 10:49 AM
well isn't this just typical. We live out of town, but do use Tri-Met when in town- guess I'd better mail my unused tickets to some PDX friends!
Posted by K. W. | December 7, 2012 12:29 PM
Is this a preview of what we can expect in a few years when they call in all of the "OLD US CURRENCY"?
I see no reason why ANY another "...insolvent government agency..." cannot do the exact same thing when their old scrip is deemed worthless.
Of course a short notice currency turn in would be cloaked in language of, "... to trap drug dealers, tax evaders and counterfeiters..." . That recent theft of a large quantity of yet ANOTHER version of "NEW" $ 100 bill should be a clue.
Posted by ltjd | December 7, 2012 1:13 PM
And how many precious resources are being used to put this foil strip into throw-away tickets?
How is THAT green?
"Green" would be going to stored value, reusable cards. Debit Cards.
You know, like:
ORCA (in Seattle)
Oyster Card (in London)
Metrocard (in New York)
Tap (in Los Angeles)
Clipper Card (in the Bay Area)
Portland's TriMet seems to be among a quickly diminishing cadre of transit agencies (mostly small agencies) that are eschewing the popularity of these cards and sticking to easily duplicated paper passes and transfers. I'm surprised TriMet still doesn't use tokens... These cards, unlike TriMet's current system of cash fares on buses/mostly bank cards on MAX/WES don't discriminate against any particular group of user, are easily used by both monthly passholders (as the cards can be reloaded by the employer), by the poor (as the cards can be easily reloaded by social service agencies), by frequent riders and by occasional riders (pay just what you need). It eliminates many of the TVM problems, speeds up the boarding process...and best of all, it's "green" (no paper, no garbage).
But TriMet's too busy focusing on their smartphone application (sucks if you are one of the millions of people without a smartphone).
Posted by Erik H. | December 8, 2012 7:26 AM
I nominate Eric H. for the Tri-Met Board. He can obviously step right in and introdouce competency to that cluster of phoney baloneys & nincompoops. Then they can start cleaning house at the management level.
Posted by Mojo | December 8, 2012 1:41 PM
Bus tickets meet the legal definition of a "gift card" and cant expire unless it clearly says so.
Posted by Anthony | December 8, 2012 4:35 PM