The tragicomedy surrounding the ballot tampering in Clackamas County continues to unfold. The perpetrator, one Deanna Swenson of Oregon City, reportedly admits that she altered two ballots, but she claims that that is all. Even if her transgressions were that minimal, she ought to go to jail for a while to think about them. And if anyone put her up to it, they ought to be sitting in the next cell.
Meanwhile, since she's a Republican, the people of the blue pods are screaming for her head, and intimating that the elections they have lost in Clackistan must have been fixed. Uh huh.
The county is taking remedial measures -- no more pens or pencils in the room where the ballots are counted. Swell, but why has this not been standard operating procedure all along? And aren't there supposed to be several people at every table, watching to make sure that this sort of thing doesn't happen? Why aren't there video cameras, like there are at every 7-Eleven in the world?
The O reporter is acting as if no one knows what will happen. "Questions loom," the headline shouts. But it's clear what's going to happen, isn't it? The two ballots that someone saw Swenson doctor will be thrown out, the rest will be counted, and whichever side loses tonight will blame its defeat on this incident. If the Clackistani rebels win, the incumbents will claim that some of the votes were fraudulent. If the incumbents win, the rebels will claim that the county overreacted to the Swenson episode and unfairly implied that the rebels were involved, thus swinging undecided voters at the 11th hour.
The politics of Clackistan are ugly enough without Oregon's crazy snail mail voting system adding to the nastiness. Having unscreened part-timers drifting in and out of a ballot processing ordeal that lasts two weeks or more doesn't seem to us to be the right way to run an election.
Speaking of voter fraud, you know what we'd also like to see investigated and prosecuted? Someone who votes in Oregon while domiciled in another state. Like the incoming mayor of Portland apparently did. None of the bobbleheads current decrying "crimes against humanity" in Clackistan gave a rat's derriere about that one.
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A great idea for Oregon ... Get the SoS out of the elections business (or make SoS nonpartisan ... And really so, by not making it Lite Guv or in the line of succession). Combine this with a ruthlessly nonpartisan apportionment process that doesn't allow any consideration of partisan affiliation when drawing district lines and house them together.
For the record, a number of us Clackistani activists quickly scoured the web looking to see if Swenson had been known or participated in any of the rebellion activities.
Fortunately, not a one of us recognized her or any of her friends.
She is indeed a rogue loner. A disturbed and foolish one at that.
So any suspicions about affiliation, accomplices or operatives is without merit and/or wishful thinking.
However, Lehan's suspicions about the possibility of the election's office janitor filling out ballots at night is still a concern.
Funny how kate Brown goes to "Battle Stations" over one misguided volunteer, yet has nothing to say about the estimated 100-150K illegals in Oregon. Are we to believe *none* of those folks have registered to vote?
The hypocrisy of so much around here is stunning, disgusting, and in my opinion,
a rather very dark side operating.
Speaking of voter fraud, you know what we'd also like to see investigated and prosecuted? Someone who votes in Oregon while domiciled in another state. Like the incoming mayor of Portland apparently did. None of the bobbleheads current decrying "crimes against humanity" in Clackistan gave a rat's derriere about that one.
It needs to be challenged when a candidate appears on the ballot with no apparent legal right to be there. I read the 18 page document recently that spells it all out. We should be outraged that this would be given a pass and apparently is on Kate Brown's desk!
Furthermore, while Brown is sending extra "eyes" to watch over Clackamas, why do I get the feeling that it is a "look over there", while eyes need to be over here in Multnomah?
I wonder if that same O reporter has checked on the Multnomah County elections office? I remember a story about multiple unsecured doors, dozens of people entering and exiting many without ID badges, general chaos and unorganization. Plus thousands of surplus unused blank ballots stored in thhe same room.
Remember Seattle a few yers back, everytime Christine Gregoire came up short somebody found another misplaced box of ballots to count. I guess my point is we need to can this vote by mail as it is prone to issues.
Hate to break it to you Jack, but this sort of fraud happens where voting is done in polling places, too. And other frauds that are harder to perpetrate under vote-by-mail, such as swapping out ballots during the trip from the polling place to the counting center, and swapping the software in the ballot counting computer on election night for a few hours. And don't get me started on electronic voting machines...
Having lived in the Deep South and seen all sorts of election fraud (one of which caused my mother to lose an election by 10 votes, even though she won all but 3 precincts, which she lost by suspiciously high margins), I prefer vote-by-mail, as long as the votes are counted daily with multiple witnesses present. Spreading the counting out over weeks makes it much harder to find and exploit a single point of failure.
HMLA-267, illegal aliens, being here illegally, tend not to willingly register with the government for things.
Strange that with all the rightwing terror over "voter fraud" its the GOP that usually gets caught for these things. And GOP secretaries of state that limit voting, and create six-hour lines at the polls in their states.
While GOP allegations of voter fraud from the left are based on basically zero actual cases.
Recent words from Republican Steve Schmidt, one of McCain's chief strategists in '08, who at the time was howling over big bad ACORN:
“I think that all of this stuff that has transpired over the last two years is in search of a solution to a problem, voting fraud, that doesn’t really exist when you look deeply at the question,” strategist Steve Schmidt said on MSNBC.
“It’s part of the mythology now in the Republican Party that there’s widespread voter fraud across the country,” Schmidt said. “In fact, there’s not."
That's a prescient prediction Steve, IMO anyway. Because that's exactly how this liberal voted: for Ludlow and against Tootie. I figured if I split my vote that way, it might send a message to Lehan (and Dimon) without giving a mandate to any far right wing views that could be lurking there. I remember when Tootie was in the legislature. Anyway, maybe gridlock is a good thing for this board right now.
But I could see how my ballot might look suspicious. I voted pretty much on the Democratic party line, with the exception of Ludlow. I also undervoted on the Soil District seats. Hope they don't throw my ballot out.
She should go to the cooler and if any elections are decided by two votes there should be a runn oft. If not, then they should take a breather. One idiot does not a conspiracy make.
The Reps seem to be always howling voter fraud but they seem to be the only ones caught doing it....ummm must be some bait and switch going on. When you feel it is in your best interest to have LESS people voting then it seems like you are admitting your message is just for a few select citizens.
Here's a link to a short video re: ballot enhancement. Jeff Kropf and Ruth Bendl describe it and explain various problems with the practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu-KZYRSrz4
She is indeed a rogue loner. A disturbed and foolish one at that.
It'll be interesting to see how Swenson is handled. If she receives some serious treatment, she was probably a loner doing something stupid. If on the other hand she receives the same minimal slap-on-the-hand PPS did, it could be possible she did this on purpose to taint the election.
Ex-Bartender your vote for Ludlow and against Tootie was not a vote fro gridlock at all.
It was a vote for the status quo and Bernard, Schrader and Damon thank you.
There is no message in your vote other than that.
Also there is nothing "far right wing" about Luidlow, Tootie and or Savas had you helped give them a majority.
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A great idea for Oregon ... Get the SoS out of the elections business (or make SoS nonpartisan ... And really so, by not making it Lite Guv or in the line of succession). Combine this with a ruthlessly nonpartisan apportionment process that doesn't allow any consideration of partisan affiliation when drawing district lines and house them together.
http://www.samefacts.com/2012/11/campaigns/campaign-2012/virginia-is-for-voters/
Posted by GA Seldes | November 6, 2012 9:18 AM
Be interesting to hear the spin since I think Ludlow will win, but Tootie won't. At least thats the sense.
I'm sure Lehan has a death grip on that chair, so she'll pull out all the stops.
Posted by Steve | November 6, 2012 9:20 AM
For the record, a number of us Clackistani activists quickly scoured the web looking to see if Swenson had been known or participated in any of the rebellion activities.
Fortunately, not a one of us recognized her or any of her friends.
She is indeed a rogue loner. A disturbed and foolish one at that.
So any suspicions about affiliation, accomplices or operatives is without merit and/or wishful thinking.
However, Lehan's suspicions about the possibility of the election's office janitor filling out ballots at night is still a concern.
Posted by Clackistan News | November 6, 2012 9:24 AM
We already know what the penalty for election violations is in Oregon, thanks to the Portland Public Schools - a $75 fine.
Posted by random | November 6, 2012 9:36 AM
Does anyone know what "ballot enhancement" is and how long it has been an accepted practice?
Posted by ltjd | November 6, 2012 9:43 AM
We already know what the penalty for election violations is in Oregon, thanks to the Portland Public Schools - a $75 fine.
Actually, it's zero, because Kate Brown's office bungled the task of writing implementing rules.
Posted by Jack Bog | November 6, 2012 9:46 AM
Funny how kate Brown goes to "Battle Stations" over one misguided volunteer, yet has nothing to say about the estimated 100-150K illegals in Oregon. Are we to believe *none* of those folks have registered to vote?
Posted by HMLA-267 | November 6, 2012 9:49 AM
Wow, there's a hijack attempt for you.
Posted by Jack Bog | November 6, 2012 9:52 AM
Sorry, it wasn't intended to be. I just find the hypocrisy of it all to be rather stunning.
Posted by HMLA-267 | November 6, 2012 10:04 AM
The hypocrisy of so much around here is stunning, disgusting, and in my opinion,
a rather very dark side operating.
Speaking of voter fraud, you know what we'd also like to see investigated and prosecuted? Someone who votes in Oregon while domiciled in another state. Like the incoming mayor of Portland apparently did. None of the bobbleheads current decrying "crimes against humanity" in Clackistan gave a rat's derriere about that one.
It needs to be challenged when a candidate appears on the ballot with no apparent legal right to be there. I read the 18 page document recently that spells it all out. We should be outraged that this would be given a pass and apparently is on Kate Brown's desk!
Furthermore, while Brown is sending extra "eyes" to watch over Clackamas, why do I get the feeling that it is a "look over there", while eyes need to be over here in Multnomah?
Posted by clinamen | November 6, 2012 10:40 AM
Yep the precendent is a FUBARD $75 bucks.
I wonder if that same O reporter has checked on the Multnomah County elections office? I remember a story about multiple unsecured doors, dozens of people entering and exiting many without ID badges, general chaos and unorganization. Plus thousands of surplus unused blank ballots stored in thhe same room.
Remember Seattle a few yers back, everytime Christine Gregoire came up short somebody found another misplaced box of ballots to count. I guess my point is we need to can this vote by mail as it is prone to issues.
Posted by BoBo | November 6, 2012 10:55 AM
Hate to break it to you Jack, but this sort of fraud happens where voting is done in polling places, too. And other frauds that are harder to perpetrate under vote-by-mail, such as swapping out ballots during the trip from the polling place to the counting center, and swapping the software in the ballot counting computer on election night for a few hours. And don't get me started on electronic voting machines...
Having lived in the Deep South and seen all sorts of election fraud (one of which caused my mother to lose an election by 10 votes, even though she won all but 3 precincts, which she lost by suspiciously high margins), I prefer vote-by-mail, as long as the votes are counted daily with multiple witnesses present. Spreading the counting out over weeks makes it much harder to find and exploit a single point of failure.
Posted by JD in the NE | November 6, 2012 10:55 AM
HMLA-267, illegal aliens, being here illegally, tend not to willingly register with the government for things.
Strange that with all the rightwing terror over "voter fraud" its the GOP that usually gets caught for these things. And GOP secretaries of state that limit voting, and create six-hour lines at the polls in their states.
While GOP allegations of voter fraud from the left are based on basically zero actual cases.
Recent words from Republican Steve Schmidt, one of McCain's chief strategists in '08, who at the time was howling over big bad ACORN:
“I think that all of this stuff that has transpired over the last two years is in search of a solution to a problem, voting fraud, that doesn’t really exist when you look deeply at the question,” strategist Steve Schmidt said on MSNBC.
“It’s part of the mythology now in the Republican Party that there’s widespread voter fraud across the country,” Schmidt said. “In fact, there’s not."
Posted by Snards | November 6, 2012 11:19 AM
That's a prescient prediction Steve, IMO anyway. Because that's exactly how this liberal voted: for Ludlow and against Tootie. I figured if I split my vote that way, it might send a message to Lehan (and Dimon) without giving a mandate to any far right wing views that could be lurking there. I remember when Tootie was in the legislature. Anyway, maybe gridlock is a good thing for this board right now.
But I could see how my ballot might look suspicious. I voted pretty much on the Democratic party line, with the exception of Ludlow. I also undervoted on the Soil District seats. Hope they don't throw my ballot out.
Posted by Ex-bartender | November 6, 2012 11:27 AM
She should go to the cooler and if any elections are decided by two votes there should be a runn oft. If not, then they should take a breather. One idiot does not a conspiracy make.
Posted by George | November 6, 2012 12:47 PM
The Reps seem to be always howling voter fraud but they seem to be the only ones caught doing it....ummm must be some bait and switch going on. When you feel it is in your best interest to have LESS people voting then it seems like you are admitting your message is just for a few select citizens.
Posted by George | November 6, 2012 12:53 PM
Here's a link to a short video re: ballot enhancement. Jeff Kropf and Ruth Bendl describe it and explain various problems with the practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu-KZYRSrz4
Posted by Molly | November 6, 2012 1:08 PM
She is indeed a rogue loner. A disturbed and foolish one at that.
It'll be interesting to see how Swenson is handled. If she receives some serious treatment, she was probably a loner doing something stupid. If on the other hand she receives the same minimal slap-on-the-hand PPS did, it could be possible she did this on purpose to taint the election.
Posted by Mr. Grumpy | November 6, 2012 2:56 PM
... sort of like causing a mistrial just to buy more time.
Posted by Mr. Grumpy | November 6, 2012 2:57 PM
Ex-Bartender your vote for Ludlow and against Tootie was not a vote fro gridlock at all.
It was a vote for the status quo and Bernard, Schrader and Damon thank you.
There is no message in your vote other than that.
Also there is nothing "far right wing" about Luidlow, Tootie and or Savas had you helped give them a majority.
Posted by Clackistan News | November 6, 2012 4:37 PM