Gunfire at the Plaid Pantry at a little after 4 in the afternoon. Apparently no one was hit, but the store was.
Portland is solving its gang problems about as well as it's addressing its mental illness and homelessness problems. It's funny how the armed gangsters never seem to get roughed up by the PoPo, whereas unarmed insane people take quite a banging.
UPDATE, 9:39 p.m.: Followed by more gunfire, at 24th and Emerson at about 5:30. We went outside with our children in northeast Portland this evening -- was that irresponsible of us?
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Well that's not quite right-- they've shot plenty of gang types too-- the one guy whose brother had just died, Chris Campbell I think was his name. And then that woman Kendra something shot when she put the car she was sitting in in gear.
It's out on 82nd. I bet Sam Adams can't even count that high, much less can figure out how to get out there. Nothing to see, doesn't exist, just shut up, pay your taxes to city hall, and don't expect anything unless there's a feel good law we want to impose on you. And don't you dare give out plastic shopping bags or we'll send the Shopping Bag Police on you.
they've shot plenty of gang types too-- the one guy whose brother had just died, Chris Campbell I think was his name. And then that woman Kendra something
You're making some assumptions there. But even if your LO perspective is accurate, that's two people in 10 years. The toll of mentally ill killed or badly injured at the hands of the Portland police is substantially higher.
Well, think about it. Gun fights last seconds, and are usually over by the time police get the call. And officers are trained not to engage too hastily. So the opportunities for shooting or punching out gun criminals are fairly rare, I would think.
Disturbed people are more likely to still be on scene when the police roll up, and more likely out of fear, delusion or confusion, to resist arrest, which the police are trained to answer with increasing levels of force. (Unwisely in many cases, I think, but that's another story.)
"We went outside with our children in northeast Portland this evening -- was that irresponsible of us?"
Nope. It was educational. Teaching kids to respect gun fire is healthy.
Kinda like children in the 50's and 60's doing bomb shelter drills during the peak of the Cold War.
I think LO Mom should consider taking her kids on a field trip to NoPo for just such exposure, since ignorance is not good. Maybe swing by the Portland Zoo while she is out of the LO bubble, you know, kill two birds kinda thing.
"At about 6:30 a.m. Monday authorities received a call from a homeowner on Atwater Road near Atwater Lane, he said.
The suspect fled the scene after attacking one of the residents.
The suspect is described as 6 feet tall, with a brown beard. He was wearing a headwrap and light clothing. He had a slender build and was armed with edged weapons, Phillips said."
-/-/-
Maybe a field trip exchange. LO parents can go to NoPo for exposure to gunfire, and NoPo parents can go to LO for exposure to knife nuts in turbans...er headwraps.
Been here long, SG? Your comments indicate not. Having lived in inner NE back in the early '70's, I can tell you that it wasn't the way it is now. Crips, Bloods, and others started moving up in the 80's. We DO have a gang problem, and PoPo doesn't know what to do about it.
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Comments (11)
Well that's not quite right-- they've shot plenty of gang types too-- the one guy whose brother had just died, Chris Campbell I think was his name. And then that woman Kendra something shot when she put the car she was sitting in in gear.
Posted by Pom Mom of LO | September 16, 2012 5:48 PM
More cameras. That's the answer.
Posted by reader | September 16, 2012 7:51 PM
It's out on 82nd. I bet Sam Adams can't even count that high, much less can figure out how to get out there. Nothing to see, doesn't exist, just shut up, pay your taxes to city hall, and don't expect anything unless there's a feel good law we want to impose on you. And don't you dare give out plastic shopping bags or we'll send the Shopping Bag Police on you.
Posted by Erik H. | September 16, 2012 8:28 PM
they've shot plenty of gang types too-- the one guy whose brother had just died, Chris Campbell I think was his name. And then that woman Kendra something
You're making some assumptions there. But even if your LO perspective is accurate, that's two people in 10 years. The toll of mentally ill killed or badly injured at the hands of the Portland police is substantially higher.
Posted by Jack Bog | September 16, 2012 9:43 PM
Why are we quibbling, didn't we invite all this diversity to bring texture that was lacking in out community?
Aren't the bullet holes texture?
Posted by Abe | September 16, 2012 10:32 PM
Well, think about it. Gun fights last seconds, and are usually over by the time police get the call. And officers are trained not to engage too hastily. So the opportunities for shooting or punching out gun criminals are fairly rare, I would think.
Disturbed people are more likely to still be on scene when the police roll up, and more likely out of fear, delusion or confusion, to resist arrest, which the police are trained to answer with increasing levels of force. (Unwisely in many cases, I think, but that's another story.)
Posted by niceoldguy | September 17, 2012 1:12 AM
"We went outside with our children in northeast Portland this evening -- was that irresponsible of us?"
Nope. It was educational. Teaching kids to respect gun fire is healthy.
Kinda like children in the 50's and 60's doing bomb shelter drills during the peak of the Cold War.
I think LO Mom should consider taking her kids on a field trip to NoPo for just such exposure, since ignorance is not good. Maybe swing by the Portland Zoo while she is out of the LO bubble, you know, kill two birds kinda thing.
Posted by Harry | September 17, 2012 8:05 AM
From the news this AM:
"At about 6:30 a.m. Monday authorities received a call from a homeowner on Atwater Road near Atwater Lane, he said.
The suspect fled the scene after attacking one of the residents.
The suspect is described as 6 feet tall, with a brown beard. He was wearing a headwrap and light clothing. He had a slender build and was armed with edged weapons, Phillips said."
-/-/-
Maybe a field trip exchange. LO parents can go to NoPo for exposure to gunfire, and NoPo parents can go to LO for exposure to knife nuts in turbans...er headwraps.
Posted by Harry | September 17, 2012 8:29 AM
More likely a "do-rag" than a turban...
Posted by Mike (one of the many) | September 17, 2012 10:00 AM
In the past there have been plenty of cars registered out in LO cruse through NoPo... And then leave after completing their purchase...
Posted by tankfixer | September 17, 2012 10:16 AM
Been here long, SG? Your comments indicate not. Having lived in inner NE back in the early '70's, I can tell you that it wasn't the way it is now. Crips, Bloods, and others started moving up in the 80's. We DO have a gang problem, and PoPo doesn't know what to do about it.
Posted by shally | September 17, 2012 6:36 PM