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Romney to women: Make me a sandwich

Attacking Planned Parenthood was one of the dopiest stunts the Republicans could have pulled in an election year. But there they were, and many of them still are. Including Ron Wyden's buddy, VP candidate Paul Ryan -- not just a Catholic, but a true believer. Second-trimester abortions? The guy won't even let women have the morning-after pill. Seriously. Ryan is more than a little scary on this front:

"I'm as pro-life as a person gets," Mr. Ryan said then. "You’re not going to have a truce. Judges are going to come up. Issues come up, they’re unavoidable, and I'm never going to not vote pro-life."

Ryan's tax plan would eliminate all taxes on investment income. The only people who would pay would be employees and the self-employed. Low-income folks would see their government lifelines scaled back or eliminated. Oh, and while we're up, let's pull the plug on National Public Radio.

But look on the bright side: Stewart and Colbert are going to have a great night tonight.

Comments (27)

Sounds a little like "A choice, not an echo."

To leftists like myself, Obama's weakest aspect was that there wasn't enough difference between him and the Republicans. Well, now there is. The choice becomes quite clear.

Romney to women, "shut up and make babies", is more like it.
And Ryan to the middle class, "shut up and keep working for nothing, while we let the rich get richer!"
I can hardly wait to see all those teabaggers 65 and over trying to get any health care at all with the $200 a month vouchers that are the substitute for Medicare.
Wal-Mart is going to get richer offering up in store nursing services. I bet they already own the Indian generic drug manufacturing plants.

I can hardly wait to see all those teabaggers 65 and over trying to get any health care at all with the $200 a month vouchers that are the substitute for Medicare.

That's the beauty of the Ryan plan! They won't have to. Baby boomers are specifically exempt, so they can safely vote for the guy. It's my generation that gets screwed. What I don't get is how saving money on Medicare in 2023 will create jobs in 2013. Perhaps Galt and Gekko can explain that one.

We all get screwed Bean. One way or another the money has to come from some place.

Ah, but at least Ron Wyden will provide lots of cover for his BFF, Eddie Munster

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/newt-changes-his-tune-ryans-right-win

Best on the pick so far:

Logo for the slate: the RR logo on the front of a Rolls

Slogan: "Take the Money and Ryan"

There's nothing wrong with letting both the television side of PBS and NPR both gather their support solely from the contributions of folks who want PBS / NPR.

I do want those services. Thats why I contribute both locally to OPB and nationally.

There is nothing "essential" about PBS / NPR, and we as a nation don't have the tax revenue to have the government afford non essentials.

When are my Democrats going to get serious about working on both the revenue side and the expenditures side of our budget problem?


The Administration ignoring the recommendations of its own Simpson - Bowles Commission is really depressing.

Interesting post considering Planned Parenthood and the DNC seem to have no shortage of money when it comes to attack TV ads running here in Nevada (and likely all "tossup" states.) The ads started three days ago, even before Ryan was selected as a VP candidate; and are running on all the local TV and cable channels.
As for PBS and NPR, it's way past time for these people to pay their own way.

I understand the wrath at the draconian Ryan plan, but Obama's plan, so far, is non-existent (unless you count kicking the can down the road another four years a plan).

If you're expecting something from a Congress (that seems to have difficulty with an annual budget), forget it.

Moreover, if you expect any cur in defense, the army of consultants that have made DC into the richest area in America (at least with 5 of the 12 richest counties in the US), or any pet project, you're dreaming from the CoP level on up.

"I understand the wrath at the draconian Ryan plan, but Obama's plan, so far, is non-existent (unless you count kicking the can down the road another four years a plan)."

Treasury Secretary Timmy "Tax-Evader" Geithner speaking about Ryan's plan, while testifying before the House Budget Committee (i.e. before Ryan):

Geithner: "That's right. We have millions of Americans retiring everyday, and that will drive substantial further rise in the growth of healthcare costs. We're not coming before you to say we have a definitive solution to our long-term problem [the debt]. What we do know is we don't like yours [Ryan's plan]."

Obama has no plan to deal with the debt - other than to be out of office before the shite hits the rotating object. Any similarities between Obama and certain local politicians is purely coincidental...

This is an interesting choice because the constant Republican refrain for the past year has been that Obama has lurched left and abandoned the center. But rather than make a play for those allegedly disaffected voters with a moderate (or seemingly moderate) choice, Romney has decided his best shot is to hope they don't vote at all, while maximizing turnout among the "base" - almost all of whom were going to vote for him anyway out of sheer antipathy toward Obama. I'm guessing his internal polling told him Obama has ~not~ lost the center and Romney is in even worse shape than the public polls indicate. Hence the Hail Mary pass that is the Ryan pick.

It's better to burn out than to fade away.

Geithner: "That's right. We have millions of Americans retiring everyday, and that will drive substantial further rise in the growth of healthcare costs. We're not coming before you to say we have a definitive solution to our long-term problem [the debt]. What we do know is we don't like yours [Ryan's plan]."

Hyperbole. Do the math.

If what Geithner says is true, the entire population would retire within a year. With everyone "retired", who's left to pay for all these government handouts?

Saw a nice statement the other day:
"Critical Thinking, The Other National Deficit"

For me it's become important to examine the under and overlaying philosophies of the campaigns and the candidates. Debating the Obama, Ryan, Geithner, Simpson-Boyles Plans is like playing volleyball.

Reviewing Obama's "Dreams From My Father", then the written words of his father that the President says he embraces, helps define President Obama's philosophy. Senior writes in 1965 in the his article "Problems Facing Our Socialism" in the East Africa Journal on page 31:

"Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop government from taxing 100 per cent of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed."

"There is a statement made on nationalization. True there are cases in which nationalization is bad, but there are, likewise, quite a few benefits to be derived from it."

Senior advocated an "active" rather than "a passive program to achieve a classless society through the removal of economic disparity".

What President Obama is now saying on the stump leans to what his father believed. Is that the major change of direction that we want our nation to follow? Arguing over whether or not ObamaCare takes $700 Billion from medicare but transfer it to Obamacare to help pay for the 20 million new insured is superfluous compared to the President's agenda taken from his father.

Sarah Palin for Secretary of State!

All you commenters with Very Serious Concerns About the Federal Deficit: where were you when the shrub was cutting taxes and launching two wars? Do you really think the national debt is a serious issue when, after adjusting for inflation, the ten-year treasury note carries a negative interest rate? Do you not realize that the primary causes of budget deficits at the federal and state/local level include millions of jobless who are not paying taxes because they are not earning or spending money? Are you one of those who thinks stimulus works only when Republicans hold power? Or that it is a mistake for the federal government to borrow and spend when its interest cost is zero or less?

As for women's rights and health issues, what could be a more perfect storm than the dream ticket of a Mormon patriarch and a papist?

All you commenters with Very Serious Concerns About the Federal Deficit: where were you when the shrub was cutting taxes and launching two wars?

Case closed

"Do you not realize that the primary causes of budget deficits at the federal and state/local level include millions of jobless who are not paying taxes because they are not earning or spending money?"

I'd verify with Mr Bog, but most filers are not paying taxes now.

In addition, the federal spending is going up quite a lot and I haven't seen one (1) program that's ever been cut by either Mssrs Obama or Bush.

So, if you think, Obama's looks that much better than Bush, I'd love to be enlightened.

Yes, spending on Afghanistan by both Bush/Obama based on how they took care of the British and Russians is probably not the best use of funds.

"Or that it is a mistake for the federal government to borrow and spend when its interest cost is zero or less?"

One more thing, I could go along with that IF there was a plan to retire the debt, but, like CoP, it'll just get wrapped by new and more expensive debt down the road.

In the long run, some spending will need to get cut to get ourselves in more control of our future.

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
– C. S. Lewis

I didn't think we could find more thoroughly bought out hacks than Obama and Romney. Then we get Ryan.

It's comedic. Or do I mean tragic?

One more thing, I could go along with that IF there was a plan to retire the debt, but, like CoP, it'll just get wrapped by new and more expensive debt down the road.

In the long run, some spending will need to get cut to get ourselves in more control of our future.

Steve, for this we should have elected Gore. Oh, wait, we actually did. A combination of economic growth, productivity improvement and reasonable (2-3%) inflation will be enough to deal with the debt, and if health care costs could be brought under control -- say, through Medicare for all -- we would be looking at large budget surpluses.

"A combination of economic growth, productivity improvement and reasonable (2-3%) inflation will be enough to deal with the debt"

What planet are you on? We only have 1 of 3 now (inflation). Any uptick in inflation means interest rates go up since there is so much money out there now. Which means more expensive new debt will wrap old debt and take $15T debt to $20T in about six months.

Sorry, none of this sad crew we have in DC has a clue about what they are doing and spending money is like giveing them free candy.

The only things that I care about any more are a balanced budget, strong domestic security, freedom of speech, an aggressively targeted anti-terrorism infrastructure, and education reform. The rest can be thrown under the bus and mangled beyond recognition. NPR? Check. The abortionist army command and their little soldiers? Check. The obesity cartel, AKA, Dept of Agriculture formula supply for babies of the clueless? Check. Foodstamps for Fritos? Check. The long waste of breath and energy affecting 5% of the country's population, gay marriage? Check. The outrageously expensive and dehumanizing hospital warehousing of the dying? Check. And all the taxes that support the aforementioned, plus our legion of leftist, left-behind, laggard educators? Check.

The other day I was witness to a teenager learning of an unexpected pregnancy. First words out of her mouth, said with conviction and determination. "Well, I'm not having an abortion." I felt a quiet peace, and happy for her, that she had somehow understood what a sick business abortion is.

Cut out foodstamps and watch your domestic security costs skyrocket.

I just read your post Gaye. I find your statements against the safety net mixed in with your support for teen moms to be the stuff of comedy. Surely Carlin has a routine with those two elements. RIP.

I'm definitely not supporting foodstamspmthat pay for Fritos or formula. Covering staples would be OK, since, yes, doing so protects domestic security. But paying taxes to grow the adipose tissue of others is not my idea of any sort of political priority.


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