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"There's something about being exposed to organic food that made them feel better about themselves," says Eskine. "And that made them kind of jerks a little bit, I guess."
Why does eating better make us act worse? Eskine says it probably has to do with what he calls "moral licensing."
"People may feel like they've done their good deed," he says. "That they have permission, or license, to act unethically later on."
---
The same with Prius drivers (or Leafs, see other thread). It used to be that Porsches were like porcupines (except the pricks are on the outside), but now it's EVs.
This moral licensing works for all green activities. How else could Gore, Kerry and Edwards all spout the gospel, but live in (sometimes multiple) 20,000 sq ft mansions?
Or maybe they are just hypocrites who are playing their followers for rubes.
All I know is that those reuseable bags that all the eco/green crowd like to use were a possible source of the Norovirus that my wife contracted and that sent her to the hospital for several days.
I don't remember EVER contracting any disease from new paper or plastic bags that we got from the supermarket.
I think the resentments to the smug greenies articulated here by the posters are the real reason that Eileen Brady lost in the primary. She came off smug just like the customers and employees at New Seasons. She wanted to force light rail to the citizens of Vancouver with the CRC. She talked about jobs, but only in the green arena, not real brick and mortar blue collar factory jobs. In her campaign she indicated that she had the only answers to what was good for Portland.
I completely agree with John Benton's comments on Eileen Brady. To me represented only a limited segment of Portland's over-all society, the holier-than-though segment.
I was in a Trader Joe's and asked a guy if they had pre-made taco shells. He started to tell me how they are better if you make them yourself out of corn tortillas, and how he does it!!! He seemed insulted when I interrupted and said. "O.K., thanks I'll ask somebody else" and walked away...talk about the self righteous. What gets me about the smug organic employee types is they're low income store clerks, but still arrogant! Try making something out of your life and earn the right to be smug...jeeeezzzzzz.
All these stories of self-righteous Greenies/Planners reminds me of the movie "Dr. Zhivago" and the character of Pasha played by Sir Thomas Courtenay. He became a Bolshevik and changed his name to Streinikov to be more politically correct. I remember that one scene where he vividly looks down scornfully and gives a smug proletarian speech.
Pretty soon we'll have the self righteous store clerks or lowly Planners changing there full names to one word with a tinge of Green.
I totally agree with your comment about the Trader Joes/New Seasons employees who act self righteous, but in essence are barely above minimum wage earners. I felt the same way about Nordstrom employees in the 90s and stopped shopping there because of it. If I wanted to be insulted while spending my money I would attend more Blazer games!
I'm not disputing the holier-than-thou attitude of a lot of these types, but I think this exhaustive "study" (60 people being shown pictures of organic food) has the cause-causation backward. People like that are more likely to be drawn to activities that give them that feeling of superiority, not the other way around. Pretentious jerks are just pretentious jerks, however they choose to justify their pretensions. It's pretty pathetic that things like eating healthier or saving gas is a basis for it though, IMO. But what else do some of these folks have?
Another anecdotal thing about New Seasons. A few years ago, I asked the butcher department for some veal. The clerk gave me a lecture about how cruel the veal trade is and that New Seasons doesn’t sell meat from that kind of animal husbandry and butchery. Well guess what, today they sell veal. Oh, it is raised on organic or benevolent farms and now is OK to sell. What a crock. Many years ago I got similar treatment at REI coop. I asked the clerk about a carbide miner’s lamp they had for sale. He told me it was a real esoteric item and if I didn’t know anything about it, he didn’t have the time to explain it to me. He suggested I go away. I have never been to REI since and that was about twenty five years ago.
If any of the organic chow-heads ever bothered to do any real investigation and analysis of their sphincter-tightening, halo-farting fetishes, they would conclude that organic agriculture is really bad for the planet AND just immoral. What the heck is so great about us that our bodies can only be exposed to perfectly untainted substances, while Cambodian street kids eat out of garbage dumps?
I sell our organic berries at the Farmer's Markets in Portland. It's a crazy atmosphere. There are no garbage cans at the market! WTF? I even got a little lecture about it from some barely employable hipster kid.
I get a huge kick out of using plastic bags for my berries. Yep. Within the city limits of Portland I will put your berries in a clean, never been used, plastic bag.
So come on down to the Buckman farmer's market on Thursday afternoon or the King market on Sunday. Get your fresh berries with none of the snoot. :-)
Charamba, Douro 2008
Horse Heaven Hills, Cabernet 2010
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills Pinot Grigio 2011
Avignonesi, Montepulciano 2004
Lorelle, Willamette Valley Pinot Noir 2011
Villa Antinori, Toscana 2007
Mercedes Eguren, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Lorelle, Columbia Valley Cabernet 2011
Purple Moon, Merlot 2011
Purple Moon, Chardonnnay 2011
Abacela, Vintner's Blend No. 12
Opula Red Blend 2010
Liberte, Pinot Noir 2010
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Indian Wells Red Blend 2010
Woodbridge, Chardonnay 2011
King Estate, Pinot Noir 2011
Famille Perrin, Cotes du Rhone Villages 2010
Columbia Crest, Les Chevaux Red 2010
14 Hands, Hot to Trot White Blend
Familia Bianchi, Malbec 2009
Terrapin Cellars, Pinot Gris 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2009
Campo Viejo, Rioja, Termpranillo 2010
Ravenswood, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2010
Waterbrook, Reserve Merlot 2009
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills, Pinot Grigio 2011
Tarantas, Rose
Chateau Lajarre, Bordeaux 2009
La Vielle Ferme, Rose 2011
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio 2011
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir 2009
Lello, Douro Tinto 2009
Quinson Fils, Cotes de Provence Rose 2011
Anindor, Pinot Gris 2010
Buenas Ondas, Syrah Rose 2010
Les Fiefs d'Anglars, Malbec 2009
14 Hands, Pinot Gris 2011
Conundrum 2012
Condes de Albarei, Albariño 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2007
Penelope Sanchez, Garnacha Syrah 2010
Canoe Ridge, Merlot 2007
Atalaya do Mar, Godello 2010
Vega Montan, Mencia
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir, Marlborough 2009
Portuga, Rose 2011
Revelation, Chardonnay, Pays d'Oc 2010
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 2005
Monte Alto, Tinto Reserva 2005
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Cabernet, Indian Wells 2009
Espiral, Vinho Rose
Vin-Koru, Pinot Gris 2011
14 Hands, Hot to Trot Red 2009
Rodney Strong, Cabernet, Sonoma 2009
Abacela, Vintner's Blend #11
Portuga, White 2010
La Bourgeoisie, Red 2009
Januik, Red 2009
Three Rivers, River's Red 2008
Kirkland, Alexander Valley Merlot 2008
Muga, Rioja Rose 2010
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2009
Mauro Molino, Barbera d'Alba 2009
Garda Chiaretto Rose
Columbia Crest, Two Vines Vineyard 10 White
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Pinot Gris, Columbia Valley 2009
L'Hortus, Rose de Saignee 2010
Maculan, Pino & Toi 2008
McKinley Springs, Bombing Range Red 2008
Trader Joe's Pinot Gris 2009
Montes Alpha, Cabernet 2007
Gran Sasso, Sangiovese, Terre di Chieti 2009
Garda, Classico Chiaretto Rose
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1999
Picos del Montgo, Tempranillo 2008
Chateau de Montmirail, Vacqueyras 2008
La Granja 360, Syrah 2009
Montgras, Carmenere Reserva 2009
Lange, Pinot Gris 2009
Columbia Crest, Horse Heaven Hills Cabernet 2008
Kirkland, Pinot Grigio 2010
Trader Joe's Coastal Syrah 2009
Columbia Crest, Horse Heaven Hills Merlot 2008
Trader Joe's Coastal Chardonnay 2009
Vieux Papes Red
Domaine de l'Aujardiere, Chardonnay 2009
Santa Rita, Cabernet, Medalla Real 2007
Penfold's, Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet 2008
Guild, Red, Lot #02 2008
Dievole, Dievolino Sangiovese 2008
Laforet, Burgogne Chardonnay 2009
Columbia Winery, Merlot 2007
Bonterra, Cabernet 2008
Elk Cove, Pinot Gris 2009
Maquis Lien 2006
Scott Paul, Pinot Noir, Le Paulee 2007
The Occasional Book
Neil Young - Waging Heavy Peace
Mark Bego - Aretha Franklin, the Queen of Soul (2012 ed.)
Jenny Lawson - Let's Pretend This Never Happened
J.D. Salinger - Franny and Zooey
Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol
Timothy Egan - The Big Burn
Deborah Eisenberg - Transactions in a Foreign Currency
Kurt Vonnegut Jr. - Slaughterhouse Five
Kathryn Lance - Pandora's Genes
Cheryl Strayed - Wild
Fyodor Dostoyevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
Jack London - The House of Pride, and Other Tales of Hawaii
Jack Walker - The Extraordinary Rendition of Vincent Dellamaria
Colum McCann - Let the Great World Spin
Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince
Harper Lee - To Kill a Mockingbird
Emma McLaughlin & Nicola Kraus - The Nanny Diaries
Brian Selznick - The Invention of Hugo Cabret
Sharon Creech - Walk Two Moons
Keith Richards - Life
F. Sionil Jose - Dusk
Natalie Babbitt - Tuck Everlasting
Justin Halpern - S#*t My Dad Says
Mark Herrmann - The Curmudgeon's Guide to Practicing Law
Barry Glassner - The Gospel of Food
Phil Stanford - The Peyton-Allan Files
Jesse Katz - The Opposite Field
Evelyn Waugh - Brideshead Revisited
J.K. Rowling - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
David Sedaris - Holidays on Ice
Donald Miller - A Million Miles in a Thousand Years
Mitch Albom - Have a Little Faith
C.S. Lewis - The Magician's Nephew
F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby
William Shakespeare - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Ivan Doig - Bucking the Sun
Penda Diakité - I Lost My Tooth in Africa
Grace Lin - The Year of the Rat
Oscar Hijuelos - Mr. Ives' Christmas
Madeline L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
Steven Hart - The Last Three Miles
David Sedaris - Me Talk Pretty One Day
Karen Armstrong - The Spiral Staircase
Charles Larson - The Portland Murders
Adrian Wojnarowski - The Miracle of St. Anthony
William H. Colby - Long Goodbye
Steven D. Stark - Meet the Beatles
Phil Stanford - Portland Confidential
Rick Moody - Garden State
Jonathan Schwartz - All in Good Time
David Sedaris - Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim
Anthony Holden - Big Deal
Robert J. Spitzer - The Spirit of Leadership
James McManus - Positively Fifth Street
Jeff Noon - Vurt
Road Work
Miles run year to date: 21
At this date last year: 52
Total run in 2012: 129
In 2011: 113
In 2010: 125
In 2009: 67
In 2008: 28
In 2007: 113
In 2006: 100
In 2005: 149
In 2004: 204
In 2003: 269
Comments (14)
Hell I've seen he same thing at Powell's books. "Oh you are reading that?"
Posted by Evergreen Libertarian | May 20, 2012 8:34 PM
"There's something about being exposed to organic food that made them feel better about themselves," says Eskine. "And that made them kind of jerks a little bit, I guess."
Why does eating better make us act worse? Eskine says it probably has to do with what he calls "moral licensing."
"People may feel like they've done their good deed," he says. "That they have permission, or license, to act unethically later on."
---
The same with Prius drivers (or Leafs, see other thread). It used to be that Porsches were like porcupines (except the pricks are on the outside), but now it's EVs.
This moral licensing works for all green activities. How else could Gore, Kerry and Edwards all spout the gospel, but live in (sometimes multiple) 20,000 sq ft mansions?
Or maybe they are just hypocrites who are playing their followers for rubes.
Posted by Harry | May 20, 2012 9:06 PM
Don't get me started!
(I live near Portlandia New Seasons/Concordia)
Posted by Arg | May 21, 2012 2:48 AM
This is why I like to wear my NRA hat and read Safari Magazine at Whole Foods.
Korean ribs and condescending looks. Dinner and a show.
Posted by zonedar | May 21, 2012 6:12 AM
All I know is that those reuseable bags that all the eco/green crowd like to use were a possible source of the Norovirus that my wife contracted and that sent her to the hospital for several days.
I don't remember EVER contracting any disease from new paper or plastic bags that we got from the supermarket.
Posted by Dave A. | May 21, 2012 6:54 AM
I think the resentments to the smug greenies articulated here by the posters are the real reason that Eileen Brady lost in the primary. She came off smug just like the customers and employees at New Seasons. She wanted to force light rail to the citizens of Vancouver with the CRC. She talked about jobs, but only in the green arena, not real brick and mortar blue collar factory jobs. In her campaign she indicated that she had the only answers to what was good for Portland.
Posted by John Benton | May 21, 2012 8:00 AM
I completely agree with John Benton's comments on Eileen Brady. To me represented only a limited segment of Portland's over-all society, the holier-than-though segment.
I was in a Trader Joe's and asked a guy if they had pre-made taco shells. He started to tell me how they are better if you make them yourself out of corn tortillas, and how he does it!!! He seemed insulted when I interrupted and said. "O.K., thanks I'll ask somebody else" and walked away...talk about the self righteous. What gets me about the smug organic employee types is they're low income store clerks, but still arrogant! Try making something out of your life and earn the right to be smug...jeeeezzzzzz.
Posted by R1Ray | May 21, 2012 8:49 AM
All these stories of self-righteous Greenies/Planners reminds me of the movie "Dr. Zhivago" and the character of Pasha played by Sir Thomas Courtenay. He became a Bolshevik and changed his name to Streinikov to be more politically correct. I remember that one scene where he vividly looks down scornfully and gives a smug proletarian speech.
Pretty soon we'll have the self righteous store clerks or lowly Planners changing there full names to one word with a tinge of Green.
Oh, we already have that, Tre Arrow.
Posted by Lee | May 21, 2012 9:50 AM
I think Eileen Brady's political fortunes went downhill the day she said her "last meal" request would be steamed kale & miso soup.
Posted by CrankyOwl | May 21, 2012 11:37 AM
R1Ray:
I totally agree with your comment about the Trader Joes/New Seasons employees who act self righteous, but in essence are barely above minimum wage earners. I felt the same way about Nordstrom employees in the 90s and stopped shopping there because of it. If I wanted to be insulted while spending my money I would attend more Blazer games!
Posted by scott | May 21, 2012 11:37 AM
I'm not disputing the holier-than-thou attitude of a lot of these types, but I think this exhaustive "study" (60 people being shown pictures of organic food) has the cause-causation backward. People like that are more likely to be drawn to activities that give them that feeling of superiority, not the other way around. Pretentious jerks are just pretentious jerks, however they choose to justify their pretensions. It's pretty pathetic that things like eating healthier or saving gas is a basis for it though, IMO. But what else do some of these folks have?
Posted by Ex-bartender | May 21, 2012 12:46 PM
Another anecdotal thing about New Seasons. A few years ago, I asked the butcher department for some veal. The clerk gave me a lecture about how cruel the veal trade is and that New Seasons doesn’t sell meat from that kind of animal husbandry and butchery. Well guess what, today they sell veal. Oh, it is raised on organic or benevolent farms and now is OK to sell. What a crock. Many years ago I got similar treatment at REI coop. I asked the clerk about a carbide miner’s lamp they had for sale. He told me it was a real esoteric item and if I didn’t know anything about it, he didn’t have the time to explain it to me. He suggested I go away. I have never been to REI since and that was about twenty five years ago.
Posted by John Benton | May 21, 2012 12:53 PM
If any of the organic chow-heads ever bothered to do any real investigation and analysis of their sphincter-tightening, halo-farting fetishes, they would conclude that organic agriculture is really bad for the planet AND just immoral. What the heck is so great about us that our bodies can only be exposed to perfectly untainted substances, while Cambodian street kids eat out of garbage dumps?
Posted by Gaye harris | May 21, 2012 9:55 PM
I sell our organic berries at the Farmer's Markets in Portland. It's a crazy atmosphere. There are no garbage cans at the market! WTF? I even got a little lecture about it from some barely employable hipster kid.
I get a huge kick out of using plastic bags for my berries. Yep. Within the city limits of Portland I will put your berries in a clean, never been used, plastic bag.
So come on down to the Buckman farmer's market on Thursday afternoon or the King market on Sunday. Get your fresh berries with none of the snoot. :-)
Posted by Jo | May 22, 2012 12:49 AM