Dave Lister, the Portland area businessman who years ago ran for City Council against Erik "Opie" Sten, has been a strong supporter of city commissioner Amanda Fritz. Four years ago, he appeared in her campaign's TV ads, and now he's written this piece supporting her re-election bid.
Lister's not the only one. The Skanner newspaper has also thrown in behind Nurse Amanda.
We agree that compared with her primary opponent, Fritz is the lesser of two evils. But this time around, we're not planning to vote that way. We're leaning toward this guy, who probably can't win, but at least is talking sense and hasn't been part of the problem all along.
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Mary Nolan is so connected to the Oregon political establishment that, even as the incumbent, Amanda Fritz still seems like an outsider by comparison. It puts Fritz in a bizarre position where she's both the incumbent and a departure from the status quo at the same time.
Everything about Mary Nolan contrasts with Amanda Fritz in such a way as to remind folks why they liked Fritz in the first place. Compared to Nolan, Fritz is still the nice, independent, "clean money", political outsider that they voted for the first time around. I wouldn't be surprised if Fritz gets reelected, despite her record in city hall, just by virtue of not being Mary Nolan.
For a long time, for voting around here, I've generally taken the position to vote for the lesser evil. I didn't want to throw my vote away. But now I'm to the point that even voting for the less evil is questionable. I'll probably vote on candidates that have little chance to win, just to express a point that might condition how the winner might govern. And this thinking goes to Measures too.
I want to slow, hopefully stop, the hole we're falling into. Jack, your leaning makes sense.
Altizer seems like he would be reasonably competent as a commissioner, but he would almost certainly become a dissenting vote on most issues. He's pretty much a mystery man in terms of community involvement, and his website is pretty vague on specifics other than to say that he's all for common sense and saving money. He was passed over for promotion while serving as an Army officer, and that may suggest that he's an odd duck who doesn't play well with others...who knows? Amanda is known for being outside the inner circle on most issues, but she knows the city like the back of her hand and has created a large grassroots network. The fact that she brings a long record of commitment to the everyday citizens of the city gives a substantial measure of credibility to her positions. In my thinking one splits up the "outside the usual suspects circle" vote by leaning to Altizer. It's more of a protest vote that benefits Nolan who will be a total disaster for the city due to the fact that she's pretty much a bed hopper with the unions, utilities, casino interests, big tobacco, Wal-Mart, etc. It's not a choice between the lesser of two evils...it's making sure that Darth Vader doesn't make it onto the city council.
"He was passed over for promotion while serving as an Army officer"
Where was this or are you just basing it on his length of service? Current promotion schedules are no indication of past performance. Twenty years ago (although in the middle of the post Cold War drawdown), promotions to major were at 11 1/2 years on average. Those were the closest ones I could find to his period of service.
Andrew: I'm getting it from his statement that he left active duty at 12 years at the rank of Captain. He's a West Point graduate and should have been promoted to Major by the 12 year point. I was in the military from 83 to 89 and most officers made Major in 10. Maybe there are different circumstances in his instance, but since we don't know much about him there is no way to tell.
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Mary Nolan is so connected to the Oregon political establishment that, even as the incumbent, Amanda Fritz still seems like an outsider by comparison. It puts Fritz in a bizarre position where she's both the incumbent and a departure from the status quo at the same time.
Everything about Mary Nolan contrasts with Amanda Fritz in such a way as to remind folks why they liked Fritz in the first place. Compared to Nolan, Fritz is still the nice, independent, "clean money", political outsider that they voted for the first time around. I wouldn't be surprised if Fritz gets reelected, despite her record in city hall, just by virtue of not being Mary Nolan.
Posted by Pragmatic Portlander | April 13, 2012 9:43 AM
For a long time, for voting around here, I've generally taken the position to vote for the lesser evil. I didn't want to throw my vote away. But now I'm to the point that even voting for the less evil is questionable. I'll probably vote on candidates that have little chance to win, just to express a point that might condition how the winner might govern. And this thinking goes to Measures too.
I want to slow, hopefully stop, the hole we're falling into. Jack, your leaning makes sense.
Posted by Lee | April 13, 2012 9:48 AM
Bruce has my vote!
Posted by pdxjim | April 13, 2012 11:02 AM
Altizer seems like he would be reasonably competent as a commissioner, but he would almost certainly become a dissenting vote on most issues. He's pretty much a mystery man in terms of community involvement, and his website is pretty vague on specifics other than to say that he's all for common sense and saving money. He was passed over for promotion while serving as an Army officer, and that may suggest that he's an odd duck who doesn't play well with others...who knows? Amanda is known for being outside the inner circle on most issues, but she knows the city like the back of her hand and has created a large grassroots network. The fact that she brings a long record of commitment to the everyday citizens of the city gives a substantial measure of credibility to her positions. In my thinking one splits up the "outside the usual suspects circle" vote by leaning to Altizer. It's more of a protest vote that benefits Nolan who will be a total disaster for the city due to the fact that she's pretty much a bed hopper with the unions, utilities, casino interests, big tobacco, Wal-Mart, etc. It's not a choice between the lesser of two evils...it's making sure that Darth Vader doesn't make it onto the city council.
Posted by Usual Kevin | April 13, 2012 11:10 AM
Sorry, not buying it. I'm done holding my nose when I vote.
Posted by Jack Bog | April 13, 2012 11:19 AM
"He was passed over for promotion while serving as an Army officer"
Where was this or are you just basing it on his length of service? Current promotion schedules are no indication of past performance. Twenty years ago (although in the middle of the post Cold War drawdown), promotions to major were at 11 1/2 years on average. Those were the closest ones I could find to his period of service.
Posted by Andrew | April 13, 2012 11:58 AM
Andrew: I'm getting it from his statement that he left active duty at 12 years at the rank of Captain. He's a West Point graduate and should have been promoted to Major by the 12 year point. I was in the military from 83 to 89 and most officers made Major in 10. Maybe there are different circumstances in his instance, but since we don't know much about him there is no way to tell.
Posted by Usual Kevin | April 13, 2012 1:39 PM