Reader poll: City Hall worse than tow truck companies?
The Adams "administration" will surely go down in history as one of Portland's worst. Everything it touches turns nasty, just as we knew it would. This year, the city's leaf sweeping is adding substantially to the collective nervous breakdown:
Significantly more cars have been towed from crowded westside streets this year as Portland crews sweep and remove leaves through the annual program. That number is sure to go up, as sweepers Friday clean roads in the Sullivan's Gulch eastside neighborhood -- where, for the first time, cars also will be ticketed and towed.
Already, 346 vehicles have been hauled off since Nov. 30. That's a 21 percent jump from 2010, and 33 percent higher than in 2009....
Violators face towing fees of at least $157, plus an $80 parking ticket -- $32 of which goes directly to the city.
City Hall just gets more and more oppressive. It's hard to tell who's worse -- the city or the tow truck weasels. Sounds like a custom-made reader poll:
Comments (13)
If you happen to live in North Portland, you don't need to worry about tow trucks, we still haven't had any leaf pick up service this year.
The tow truck companies are only pilot fish following the main sharks. I almost don't blame them for taking advantage of the opportunities presented by the city, because that's their whole business. I said "almost," because they're also fighting to make sure that these salad days continue. (We had the same thing in Dallas for quite a long time, where tow truck companies spent a lot of campaign money on city council critters to make sure that our ordinances on "No Parking" signs remained in the 1800s. Until the late Nineties, for instance, it was perfectly legal to put a "No Parking: Violators Will Be Towed" sign as much as 40 feet off the ground and then tow everyone who tried to park in that space. It was only when the state attorney general got involved that parking in downtown Dallas stopped being a game of Russian roulette.)
Respectfully, Jack, I have to disagree with your assessment of this issue. I do not live in a leaf district, but it is my understanding that residents are given ample warning to get their vehicles off the street before the sweepers go through. Those vehicles left on the street are logically deemed "abandoned" and subject to ticket and tow. A career police officer I spoke to several months ago, told me that there were at one time approximately 4,000 stored vehicles on Portland's streets, a number that is unlikely to have declined much given the current restrictions on ticketing & towing. That's 4,000 vehicles taking up spaces that could be used for legitimate parking, and 4,000 vehicles that are creating potential traffic hazards. The shame of it is that it is only in the leaf districts that these vehicles are given any attention; in non-leaf districts, those vehicles that are stored-but-registered can sit for 2 years (the entire registration period) without getting a ticket or tow. In fact, there are several of these vehicles on block as I write. One, in particular, is unlikely to move until mid-2013, which is when the registration expires.
Like others who write here, I think the leaf program itself may be unconstitutional, but if one of the residual effects of the program is getting stored vehicles off the streets of Portland, those neighborhoods in the program should consider themselves lucky. My neighborhood is entirely without that service.
Patsy, if the city is worried about cars stored on the street, they should stop permitting apartment buildings with no parking.
You can actually call the city on abandoned cars if you observe them there for a set time.Can't remember what it is, two weeks or something. They come by and put a notice on the window and give the owner a day or two to move it, then they tow it. Though, this may be one program that was cut due to budget issues a couple of years ago.
Snards, I believe many years ago residents could call in any stored vehicle for ticketing and/or towing. But not anymore. Now, a vehicle must be unregistered and/or appear inoperable in order to get any attention from the city. I was told years ago by someone in Transportation that the streetcar ate the money for the program you describe.
Yeah, I called them a few years ago, but I also heard that that program was on the chopping block. It's a real shame. Seems like a program that could recoup it's own cost pretty well, but maybe too many of the towed cars went unclaimed.
First the Adams fantasy express acts to reduce or eliminate off-street parking and off-street parking requirements for new development. More vehicles end up parked on the street so more of them get towed. Anybody else see the prejudicial bias here. It is time to turn over a new leaf.
I believe for Portland technically no vehicle can be left unmoved on the street for 24 hrs, according to the Nuisance Bureau and Police. Our neighborhood has used this to help mitigate problems by those using our streets to park business vehicles in our residential neighborhood.
Lee, it's good to know the 24-hour vehicle parking code is being enforced in your neighborhood for business vehicles. I assume you mean vehicles with commercial license plates. Sadly, you could not achieve the same results with non-commercial vehicles.
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Comments (13)
If you happen to live in North Portland, you don't need to worry about tow trucks, we still haven't had any leaf pick up service this year.
Posted by phil | December 16, 2011 7:38 AM
The city is worse because THEY make the rules.
Posted by Portland Native | December 16, 2011 7:46 AM
The tow truck companies are only pilot fish following the main sharks. I almost don't blame them for taking advantage of the opportunities presented by the city, because that's their whole business. I said "almost," because they're also fighting to make sure that these salad days continue. (We had the same thing in Dallas for quite a long time, where tow truck companies spent a lot of campaign money on city council critters to make sure that our ordinances on "No Parking" signs remained in the 1800s. Until the late Nineties, for instance, it was perfectly legal to put a "No Parking: Violators Will Be Towed" sign as much as 40 feet off the ground and then tow everyone who tried to park in that space. It was only when the state attorney general got involved that parking in downtown Dallas stopped being a game of Russian roulette.)
Posted by Texas Triffid Ranch | December 16, 2011 8:18 AM
It's a toss-up. They're both equally complict.
I believe that is 'equity'. Yes, they are at equity.
Posted by godfry | December 16, 2011 9:40 AM
Pity Oregon doesn't seem to really have an Attorney General...
Posted by Mr. Grumpy | December 16, 2011 9:47 AM
Grumpy, We do have a excellent Attorney General, he just went into retirement the day after he was sworn in.
Posted by phil | December 16, 2011 11:53 AM
Respectfully, Jack, I have to disagree with your assessment of this issue. I do not live in a leaf district, but it is my understanding that residents are given ample warning to get their vehicles off the street before the sweepers go through. Those vehicles left on the street are logically deemed "abandoned" and subject to ticket and tow. A career police officer I spoke to several months ago, told me that there were at one time approximately 4,000 stored vehicles on Portland's streets, a number that is unlikely to have declined much given the current restrictions on ticketing & towing. That's 4,000 vehicles taking up spaces that could be used for legitimate parking, and 4,000 vehicles that are creating potential traffic hazards. The shame of it is that it is only in the leaf districts that these vehicles are given any attention; in non-leaf districts, those vehicles that are stored-but-registered can sit for 2 years (the entire registration period) without getting a ticket or tow. In fact, there are several of these vehicles on block as I write. One, in particular, is unlikely to move until mid-2013, which is when the registration expires.
Like others who write here, I think the leaf program itself may be unconstitutional, but if one of the residual effects of the program is getting stored vehicles off the streets of Portland, those neighborhoods in the program should consider themselves lucky. My neighborhood is entirely without that service.
Posted by Patsy | December 16, 2011 12:23 PM
Patsy, if the city is worried about cars stored on the street, they should stop permitting apartment buildings with no parking.
You can actually call the city on abandoned cars if you observe them there for a set time.Can't remember what it is, two weeks or something. They come by and put a notice on the window and give the owner a day or two to move it, then they tow it. Though, this may be one program that was cut due to budget issues a couple of years ago.
Posted by Snards | December 16, 2011 1:14 PM
Snards, I believe many years ago residents could call in any stored vehicle for ticketing and/or towing. But not anymore. Now, a vehicle must be unregistered and/or appear inoperable in order to get any attention from the city. I was told years ago by someone in Transportation that the streetcar ate the money for the program you describe.
Posted by Patsy | December 16, 2011 2:37 PM
Yeah, I called them a few years ago, but I also heard that that program was on the chopping block. It's a real shame. Seems like a program that could recoup it's own cost pretty well, but maybe too many of the towed cars went unclaimed.
Posted by Snards | December 16, 2011 3:31 PM
First the Adams fantasy express acts to reduce or eliminate off-street parking and off-street parking requirements for new development. More vehicles end up parked on the street so more of them get towed. Anybody else see the prejudicial bias here. It is time to turn over a new leaf.
Posted by T Parker | December 16, 2011 3:47 PM
I believe for Portland technically no vehicle can be left unmoved on the street for 24 hrs, according to the Nuisance Bureau and Police. Our neighborhood has used this to help mitigate problems by those using our streets to park business vehicles in our residential neighborhood.
Posted by Lee | December 17, 2011 11:09 AM
Lee, it's good to know the 24-hour vehicle parking code is being enforced in your neighborhood for business vehicles. I assume you mean vehicles with commercial license plates. Sadly, you could not achieve the same results with non-commercial vehicles.
Posted by Patsy | December 17, 2011 11:22 AM