It's hard to believe, but Herman Cain apparently did not know that China has nuclear weapons. Another example of the brilliance of the American CEO class. They're worth the millions they're paid -- honest.
China has had nukes since the 60s. Didn't we all learn that in grade school?
I guess Herman was too busy harassing women on the job, to pay much attention to international "affairs".
No innuendo there. He did it; the ladies settled and went on, where hopefully, they were not subjected to more of the same from other bosses.
Sexual harassment is a form of bullying and should not be tolerated in the workplace or anyplace!
Yeah, don't you know that accusing a rich guy of harassment is the fall-back plan for goldigging harpies who fail to trap a wealthy husband? Talk about a slime campaign...
Cain's doing quite well smearing himself, thank you. All anyone has to do is quote him. [Who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan, Herman?] The guy changed his story 3 different times in two days on the sexual harassment issue. If he has nothing to hide, why did he try to do just that when this story first broke?
Given the details provided by Politico.com, Cain's earlier refusals to comment and his evasive answers to the magazine's questions parallel the now common patterns of public figures who seem to hope the story will go away if they refuse to comment.
All we know is how many politicians have risen to prominence and then been brought down by revelations pertaining to their character that they denied until the end. The pattern of evasion, denial and then rebuttal has typically been an accurate guide as to the outcome.
Wow, sounds an awful lot like a local mayor most people on this blog rightly rail against. But this "brother from another mother" of the Koch brothers is a victim of "innuendo" even though he actually (and finally) admitted to settlements?!? Right. It must be because your black people are better than ours.
I love Cain. You don't even have to satirize him. He's a big joke all on his own. Please, please, please nominate him.
Brings back memories of Clarence Thomas, " the most qualified person for the job", I think what GHWB said.
I suppose the Koch brothers feel the same way about their "brother from another mother".
After all Herman will do their bidding without question, if elected. I will skip any further comparisons or analogies.
As former head of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City (a private group of banks currently running our economy into the ground), that is about all you need to know about Herman Cain.
He is one of THEM pretending to be one of US.
Another fake candidate for the media to spend all of their time on (good or bad) so that Ron Paul can be intentionally ignored.
I do cringe when I see Gloria Allred, but one wonders how many more women has this man sexually assaulted and harassed over the years. If there are 4, there are probably 40 more.
I guess we now know why his wife, Gloria, stays out of the political spotlight. The most recent photo I have seen is from 2004.
If I were this man's wife, I would not want to be recognized on the street either!
It's quite possible he doesn't remember the behaviour as anything but a distant consensual dalliance with underlings, which used to be stuff of non-discussion, until Anita Hill and Monica Lewinsky made every lewd old groper, delusional about consensus or not, ripe for attack.
Too bad, I liked the flat tax plan.
As for China, I bet he had a brain lapse and thought they were talking about Iran. At least three letters in common there.
If Cain was able to forget about settlements being paid out, he's delusional about more than just consensus. And if you can write off his ever-evolving story as anything other than subterfuge,...
Here's yet a couple more words for you too, Mister T: John Edwards. And that was consensual. Slimy, but consensual. See also Anthony Weiner. [Not consensual, but I also don't equate pictures of some dude's clothed crotch with someone groping me either. But that's just me.] Regardless, both he and Edwards' political careers rightly came to a screeching halt.
Personally, I do not pine for the good 'ol days when sexual harassment was the "stuff of non-discussion."
John Edwards' big money supporters and his handlers bottled up the bimbo eruption and persuaded Big Media to sit on the story until well after he was a non-entity in the Democratic Primary.
Only then, and only after they were scooped by the National Enquirer, did they remember that character counts.
Had Edwards won the Democratic Primary, historical precedent suggests she would have been given a high paying position in the Department of Commerce or given a do nothing civilian assignment at the Pentagon or on K Street.
Bill Clinton had dozens of these affairs, and you only heard about the ones who didn't stay bought. The Democrats returned him to office with full knowledge that he was a womanizing raconteur. I personally met a very attractive nurse that he tried to seduce while campaigning in Portland, and she clearly wasn't the first Second Lady.
Bill Clinton remains the most popular former President we've seen in a long time. And the most sought after speaker for hire.
So when are Cain's supporters going to "remember that character counts"?
The duplicity is stunning. No one here is defending Edwards' or Clinton's lack of integrity in this area. Many powerful guys have a problem keeping it in their pants, and if you want to keep score - Democrat vs. Republican - we could drag a lot of names up (Gingrich anyone?).
The point is, that it's what many consider to be bad behavior - on either side of the aisle. And many more people believe the public deserves to have that information when choosing their elected representatives. Others are free to think that this issue does not matter or that people don't have the right to know too. But it's a tad bit hypocritical to complain about the "innuendo and slime campaign" against Cain, while decrying "Big Media" for allegedly being paid to sit on the Edwards story, is it not?
If Clinton is so popular even after people know his philandering ways, so be it. No one can control the will of the masses. But at least they have that information and can do with it what they will. You, it seems, would rather hide that information - when it comes to your guy, anyway. Moral clarity should be nonpartisan, IMO.
I don't see anyone defending Clinton with those past allegations, nor should anyone defend Cain . . . if they turn out to be true.
The problem is, these days, anyone can say anything about anyone. When it is a person with a D behind their name, just as in the Edwards scandal, there is heavy skepticism. When it is a person with an R, there seems to be an assumption (on this page, on this issue, anyway) that the moral charges are true.
Are we all dumb enough to assume that Clinton was attacked and Cain is attacked (and Obama, if you recall, suddenly came under allegations of "birtherism") by coincidence? It had nothing to do with opponents' worries that the candidate was a star on the rise? Please.
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Comments (26)
Lets give that test to members of Congress.
Posted by Abe | November 7, 2011 6:41 AM
I'm not sure how relevant that is to being a CEO. Certainly relevant if you're running for President.
Irrespective of political affiliation, you have to cringe at the innuendo and slime campaign being pursued against Herman Cain.
Posted by Mister Tee | November 7, 2011 7:06 AM
Mr T, you're joking, right? Part of the larger joke?
Posted by Allan Leedy L. | November 7, 2011 7:13 AM
Actually, Allan, I think he nailed it.
Posted by David E Gilmore | November 7, 2011 7:26 AM
China has had nukes since the 60s. Didn't we all learn that in grade school?
I guess Herman was too busy harassing women on the job, to pay much attention to international "affairs".
No innuendo there. He did it; the ladies settled and went on, where hopefully, they were not subjected to more of the same from other bosses.
Sexual harassment is a form of bullying and should not be tolerated in the workplace or anyplace!
Posted by Portland Native | November 7, 2011 7:42 AM
Yeah, don't you know that accusing a rich guy of harassment is the fall-back plan for goldigging harpies who fail to trap a wealthy husband? Talk about a slime campaign...
Cain's doing quite well smearing himself, thank you. All anyone has to do is quote him. [Who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan, Herman?] The guy changed his story 3 different times in two days on the sexual harassment issue. If he has nothing to hide, why did he try to do just that when this story first broke?
This article says it better than I can: http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/nov/01/sexual-harassment-and-herman-cain/:
Given the details provided by Politico.com, Cain's earlier refusals to comment and his evasive answers to the magazine's questions parallel the now common patterns of public figures who seem to hope the story will go away if they refuse to comment.
All we know is how many politicians have risen to prominence and then been brought down by revelations pertaining to their character that they denied until the end. The pattern of evasion, denial and then rebuttal has typically been an accurate guide as to the outcome.
Wow, sounds an awful lot like a local mayor most people on this blog rightly rail against. But this "brother from another mother" of the Koch brothers is a victim of "innuendo" even though he actually (and finally) admitted to settlements?!? Right. It must be because your black people are better than ours.
I love Cain. You don't even have to satirize him. He's a big joke all on his own. Please, please, please nominate him.
Posted by Ex-bartender | November 7, 2011 8:53 AM
Yeah, but I bet he knows how many pizzas are sold over there every year....
Posted by SKA | November 7, 2011 9:03 AM
D'ya think? Maybe he's just somebody's nephew who kept getting promoted.
Posted by Jack Bog | November 7, 2011 9:21 AM
Brings back memories of Clarence Thomas, " the most qualified person for the job", I think what GHWB said.
I suppose the Koch brothers feel the same way about their "brother from another mother".
After all Herman will do their bidding without question, if elected. I will skip any further comparisons or analogies.
Posted by Portland Native | November 7, 2011 10:12 AM
As former head of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City (a private group of banks currently running our economy into the ground), that is about all you need to know about Herman Cain.
He is one of THEM pretending to be one of US.
Another fake candidate for the media to spend all of their time on (good or bad) so that Ron Paul can be intentionally ignored.
Posted by Ralph Woods | November 7, 2011 10:18 AM
Well, his campaign just got nuked by Gloria Allred.
Accuser Details Lewd Behavior by Cain
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/accuser-details-lewd-behavior-by-cain/
Though it was more of a suicide bombing by Cain running amok. He's just another onionhead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I0JBskcpYU
Posted by Mojo | November 7, 2011 12:16 PM
I do cringe when I see Gloria Allred, but one wonders how many more women has this man sexually assaulted and harassed over the years. If there are 4, there are probably 40 more.
I guess we now know why his wife, Gloria, stays out of the political spotlight. The most recent photo I have seen is from 2004.
If I were this man's wife, I would not want to be recognized on the street either!
Posted by portland native | November 7, 2011 12:30 PM
Herman, we hardly knew ya...
Posted by Mark Ellis | November 7, 2011 3:08 PM
Two words: Bill Clinton.
Posted by Mister Tee | November 7, 2011 3:10 PM
Two more:
Democrat
Republican
Maybe his critics are not hypocrites.
Maybe Herman's critics are just racists.
Posted by Harry | November 7, 2011 5:15 PM
And maybe the moon's made out of credit default swaps.
Posted by Mojo | November 7, 2011 5:29 PM
It's quite possible he doesn't remember the behaviour as anything but a distant consensual dalliance with underlings, which used to be stuff of non-discussion, until Anita Hill and Monica Lewinsky made every lewd old groper, delusional about consensus or not, ripe for attack.
Too bad, I liked the flat tax plan.
As for China, I bet he had a brain lapse and thought they were talking about Iran. At least three letters in common there.
Posted by gaye harris | November 7, 2011 5:44 PM
If Cain was able to forget about settlements being paid out, he's delusional about more than just consensus. And if you can write off his ever-evolving story as anything other than subterfuge,...
Here's yet a couple more words for you too, Mister T: John Edwards. And that was consensual. Slimy, but consensual. See also Anthony Weiner. [Not consensual, but I also don't equate pictures of some dude's clothed crotch with someone groping me either. But that's just me.] Regardless, both he and Edwards' political careers rightly came to a screeching halt.
Personally, I do not pine for the good 'ol days when sexual harassment was the "stuff of non-discussion."
Posted by Ex-bartender | November 7, 2011 7:07 PM
Thank you ex-bartender, well said.
Posted by Portland Native | November 7, 2011 8:09 PM
I missed the Allred press conference. Was that new lady Paula Jones or Jennifer Flowers?
Posted by Mike (the other one) | November 7, 2011 8:31 PM
Neither. Juanita somebody. She found a $100 bill outside her single-wide. I heard it from a bald loud mouth guy.
Posted by Harry | November 7, 2011 8:34 PM
John Edwards' big money supporters and his handlers bottled up the bimbo eruption and persuaded Big Media to sit on the story until well after he was a non-entity in the Democratic Primary.
Only then, and only after they were scooped by the National Enquirer, did they remember that character counts.
Had Edwards won the Democratic Primary, historical precedent suggests she would have been given a high paying position in the Department of Commerce or given a do nothing civilian assignment at the Pentagon or on K Street.
Bill Clinton had dozens of these affairs, and you only heard about the ones who didn't stay bought. The Democrats returned him to office with full knowledge that he was a womanizing raconteur. I personally met a very attractive nurse that he tried to seduce while campaigning in Portland, and she clearly wasn't the first Second Lady.
Bill Clinton remains the most popular former President we've seen in a long time. And the most sought after speaker for hire.
Posted by Mister Tee | November 7, 2011 8:46 PM
So when are Cain's supporters going to "remember that character counts"?
The duplicity is stunning. No one here is defending Edwards' or Clinton's lack of integrity in this area. Many powerful guys have a problem keeping it in their pants, and if you want to keep score - Democrat vs. Republican - we could drag a lot of names up (Gingrich anyone?).
The point is, that it's what many consider to be bad behavior - on either side of the aisle. And many more people believe the public deserves to have that information when choosing their elected representatives. Others are free to think that this issue does not matter or that people don't have the right to know too. But it's a tad bit hypocritical to complain about the "innuendo and slime campaign" against Cain, while decrying "Big Media" for allegedly being paid to sit on the Edwards story, is it not?
If Clinton is so popular even after people know his philandering ways, so be it. No one can control the will of the masses. But at least they have that information and can do with it what they will. You, it seems, would rather hide that information - when it comes to your guy, anyway. Moral clarity should be nonpartisan, IMO.
Posted by Ex-bartender | November 8, 2011 7:30 AM
I don't see anyone defending Clinton with those past allegations, nor should anyone defend Cain . . . if they turn out to be true.
The problem is, these days, anyone can say anything about anyone. When it is a person with a D behind their name, just as in the Edwards scandal, there is heavy skepticism. When it is a person with an R, there seems to be an assumption (on this page, on this issue, anyway) that the moral charges are true.
Are we all dumb enough to assume that Clinton was attacked and Cain is attacked (and Obama, if you recall, suddenly came under allegations of "birtherism") by coincidence? It had nothing to do with opponents' worries that the candidate was a star on the rise? Please.
Posted by Mike (the other one) | November 8, 2011 11:08 AM
"Moral clarity should be nonpartisan..."
Bwah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-aaaaaaaa!!!
Posted by Mister Tee | November 8, 2011 1:17 PM
Yeah. Integrity. What a concept.
Posted by Ex-bartender | November 9, 2011 7:16 AM