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Thursday, November 3, 2011

Coming soon: the Costco criss-cross

It appears that the State of Washington is about to be put out of the liquor sale business by public vote. The biggest pusher of the change is Costco, and this time it appears that that company has the votes to wrest control of selling hooch away from the government. There will be other private liquor dealers as well, of course, but good luck to any little guys competing with mega-players like Costco, which will become the place to go for half-gallon tanks of the hard stuff.

Since prices up that way will be way cheaper than what we pay here at Portland liquor stores, run by the state, we can see ourselves driving over the Columbia from time to time for a booze run to Costco. And that's deliciously ironic, in that driving in the other direction will be the legion of 'Couverites who already shop at the Portland airport Costco to cheat on the Washington sales (and use) tax on life's many other necessities.

Living on a state border sure is interesting sometimes. Just ask Charlie Hales, Washington taxpayer/Oregon voter.

Comments (31)

Not to mention Jack, Oregonians make out best. We won't even have to pay sales tax on our liquor purchases over there! In California, Costco is the cheapest place to buy booze. Now imagine doing it without sales tax for Oregonians!!!!!


You folks will LOVE getting your liquor for 25-50% less than what the pirates at OLCC are currently charging you. Also, expect to eventually see outfits like Liquor Barn and Wines and More setting up shop in Washington State.

Then again with this sort of momentum to the North. Who is to say the OLCC and the State of Oregon, wont get it comeuppance regarding liquor sales revenue?

Seriously, tons of weirder stuff has happened in this state. It's possible

If this is what it takes to generate enough traffic to justify the CRC, then by George I'm all for it.

This initiative will be on the Oregon ballot within 2 years, guaranteed.

My only concern would be that the street drinkers who already plague my close-in SE neighborhood would have even more options at their disposal for getting seriously wrecked at 9am.

But I do like the thought of a quick trip across the river to pick up a 1.5 L bottle of Tanqueray.

C'mon, there's got to be a better way to help the little guys besides making the bigger guys more expensive. With the OLCC it drives me nutz that every bottle has to take a side trip thru the OLCC warehouse to get a tax sticker.

Plus, I can now afford the family-size of Grey Goose!

Would not want to be an OLCC operator on the northern border of Oregon.

Imagine what it's like living in Bristol, Tennessee/Virginia, the only city that I'm aware of here in the U.S. where the state border runs right through the middle of downtown.

And with booze being available at your local store, what will the government stores be used for?

Wait, I've got it. Something that should be legal now, but isn't.

New initials, OMCC

You mean like Kansas City or St. Louis?

I thought maybe Hales wife lived in Washington so she did not have to sleep with him “I didn’t move to Washington to cut my taxes. I moved to Washington to sleep with my wife.." Lucky Charlie he can partake in at least two cheap vices north of the CRC.

If he moved to Washington, for whatever reason, then he wasn't allowed to vote in Oregon. But he did.

Anyone who would vote for Charlie Hales either has ZERO grasp of his previous track record as a commissioner, "I'm not a maintainer", or his career as a consultant.
The guy recognizes none of the severe problems he had a BIG hand in creating.

And he's willy nilly in dimissing the city's UR debt as some earlier problem that is no longer in use.

However, rewarding him, of all people, with a mayoral election fits the Portland insanity only too well.

"If he moved to Washington, for whatever reason, then he wasn't allowed to vote in Oregon. But he did."

Maybe his argument is: "I didn't move to Washington, I just slept there."

It works for Wyden... sleep with his wife in NYC, work in DC, and vote in Portland.

I am curious. If Washington Measure 1183 passes, do you think your annual consumption of liquor will increase?

Mine won't, but will yours?

Go Washington! Pass that Measure 1183. I will drive up there and stimulate your economy. No more ridiculously fixed high prices? OLCC should be worried.

It works for Wyden... sleep with his wife in NYC, work in DC, and vote in Portland.

And pay taxes in Portland as an Oregon resident. Not so with Hales.

Oregon and Washington have always been weird. In the midwest, grocery stores sold booze, and you could buy meat there on Sunday, and banks had ATM machines. It was a bizarre environment here in 1970: banks were closed on Saturday, you couldn't find an ATM most anywhere. You had liquor stores (closed on Sundays). And the grocery meat sections were closed on Sundays.

On the other hand, my water/sewer bill was only about $35 every three months. You could even choose your garbage hauler.

Speaking of which: I kind of wonder what would happen if people started layering standard garbage in with the yard-debris/slop recycling bin stuff? I mean, the CoPo brain-trust has cut garbage service by 50%.

What happens if people start incorporating garbage into the sancrosanct slop bin?

Just why in the heck would anyone other than Carrie Nation's great great grandchildren vote to keep govt. controlled alcohol sales in place? I get the fact that if you live in an area with a high addicted transient population it makes the concept less appealing, but those folks will get their booze regardless. What is the practical/common sense backbone argument supporting the govt only alcohol sales? C'mon Oregon, let's get our drunk on!!

"What is the practical/common sense backbone argument supporting the govt only alcohol sales?"

Easy answer.....



This will likely end up being much like what happens here in Cincinnati, OH. Everyone goes over the bridges to Newport, Kentucky to buy their hootch. Better selection, lower prices.

Which, is kind of funny, since Kentucky has 120 counties, 43 of which are "dry" and 46 are "moist". Yes, the cradle of bourbon making is half-dry.

Sounds as tho many don't buy in Vancouver.

I happen to and while they don't charge tax on other items, they do on Wine, so I see that their govt will make up much of the difference in tax.

It would however begin the downward spiral for the useless OLCC.

You can pump your own gas in WA too. OR continues to be the #1 nanny state.

Dammit in Shingletown, CA I can buy my hooch AND pump my own gas at the same place. But pay the sales tax!

machinshed fred:

What is a "moist" county?


I think the TX-AR state line runs down main st in the city Texarkana.

And the more of us that buy our gas in WA, makes for less money available for PBOT to destroy our existing roads.

This may be short sighted, in that they stop maintenance and the roads crumble, but in the end I suspect we are better off that way. (Maintenance should come first anyhow.)

Peter Apanel -Kansas City MO and Kansas, Carter Lake IA and Omaha NE.

You CAN pump your own gas? Oh Joy, I'm just dying to get out of my car and grab hold of a stinking gas pump. Control freak.


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