A reader in Portland (St. John's, we think) wrote us last evening:
I went for a bike ride today and saw this from a bridge two blocks from my house.
The first one is looking to the north. The second is looking to the south....
I'm not a conspiracy guy, but when there is a train of armored fighting vehicles, further than you can see in both directions, less than 100 yards from your front door, it makes you wonder.
Comments (32)
Apparently we're not leaving Afghanistan anytime soon? Or maybe we're invading someone else shortly?
Your post should be America, 1940 to Present. For better or worse, that is what we do and have been doing for a long time.
My friend who was an Air Force officer during the late 1980s and 1990s would tell me stories about how they transported ICBMs around the country. He was stationed in nuke missile silos in the midwest.
They are part of a system in which the Department of Defense (DOD), will spend approximately 12 billion dollars to consume 374,000 barrels of oil per day, to invade/occupy foreign lands in order to take what are fast becoming only buckets of oil for their efforts.
By comparison, Nigeria consumed almost 280,000 barrels per day and Greece 371,000 barrels per day in 2010.
Besides the trillions of DOD budget that the War Department can't account for, here is a peek at where some of the money goes:
I cross the cut two to four times a day. That's cool, sorry I missed it.
Real Portlandians worry about are all of those cheap and evil cars from the orient* coming in from the marine terminals and being distributed by trains. EVERYDAY!
The remains of a certain percentage of those machines are destined to rust forever in the harsh sun of Afghanistan and their former occupants will come home in a box.
In fact I took video of such a military train in Tigard some time ago, and shot a picture of another military train that travelled over Rex Hill to Newberg.
I do know that with one of the recent movements northbound through Portland (I did not get pictures of) that it was shadowed by some sort of security force, and that several railfan photographers were told not to photograph the train. However the security was not consistent as other photographers had no problem getting pictures and did not encounter the security.
My God, a train load of tanks goes by and it's the end of the world.
I forgot that Oregon doesn't have any Military Bases.
Come on down to my house on the lake 12 Miles south of Offutt AFB and the Underground, pop a cold one on the deck, I I will give you a nice Daily Air Show of Looking Glass, AWACS, B1B, B2's and F16's.
Even had the pleasure of seeing the Space Shuttle docked to the 747 come in for a refueling stop on it's cross country jaunt from Edwards AFB to Cape Kennedy.
I also had the chilling sight of Air Force One flying in on 9-11.
PDXleinOmaha - Oregon has a military base, the Umatilla Chemical Depot. It is eastern Oregon, which might as well be Pluto for those in western Oregon.
I used to live in Omaha, the home of Stratcom. Nice place but terrible summers - too hot and humid.
You know, pass laws and stuff that make the military illegal in Multnomah County, especially the Marines, cuz they're like storm troopers anyway, right?
We could, like, march and camp out and stuff like that till they all leave.
I mean, if we all get together and demand it, they'd have to, right?
And then we could all go back to doing whatever it is we do.
About two years ago, staying overnight in a house in North Portland, I looked out the front window early one morning and saw a military exercise being conducted on Willis Blvd., with uniformed soldiers getting out of vehicles and, carrying (presumably unloaded) weapons, deploying in various directions on foot. It was spooky.
I forgot that Oregon doesn't have any Military Bases.
You're correct in that we don't have any military bases used by active duty, non-reserve or Guard aligned units.
That said:
We have two Air Force installations (Portland ANG Base and Kingsley Field ANG Base), both of which have F-15s assigned to them (Portland actually serves an alert function and is at the control of NORAD; Klamath Falls is a training facility).
We have the Umatilla Chemical Depot which is no longer used for any significant Army function (it is in the decommissioning process)
We have the Boardman Bombing Range, which is administered by the U.S. Navy (and has from what I've heard maybe one or two personnel assigned to it; it's also used by the Air Force)
We have several National Guard Camps (Camp Withycombe in S.E. Portland, Camp Rilea near Seaside - just to name two.)
We have numerous Coast Guard facilities (yup, the Coast Guard is still considered part of the military)
There used to be a big radar installation near Christmas Valley, but it is in the process of being torn down.
There's at least one other radar facility in Eastern Oregon (that caused an uproar when a wind turbine was to be constructed near it)
I believe there might still be a radar installation at Mt. Hebo, a former Air Force base (decommissioned since the 1970s)
Thanks, Erik H., for this inventory of military investment in OR. There is also the potential use of parts of Central Oregon for drone testing:
"Eric Folkestad, an engineer who works on business development for the unmanned aerial vehicle manufacturer Arcturus UAV, said Central Oregon would be an attractive area to test the company’s small drones, if a military area opened to testing. Folkestad is based in Washougal, Wash., and the company’s plant is in Rohnert Park, Calif.
JK:They are surplus, being brought here to be melted down and turned in to streetcars by Sam & Charlie's buddies over the iron works.
Wonder if there is also a surplus of paint....has anyone else noticed that many of the new cars are the “new colors” of the year apparently, olive, the green and brown shades in the camouflage range?
I will take a look in the stores to see if those same colors are dominant in clothes. I imagine following in that range will be the appliances.
It may all fit then with our living in or getting accustomed to living in a camouflaged world!
Thor, Eric H., Gardiner,
Thank You for the correction on Military Installations in Oregon. I was narrow focused on a Ft. Lewis or Offutt like base. Good info.
Re: "Didn't know that the Umatilla Chemical Depot was in the process of being decommissioned."
thor,
"The Umatilla site is one of the last American chemical depots to destroy its nerve and mustard gas agents in compliance with the worldwide Chemical Weapons Conference pact of 1997, which calls for the United States to get rid of these weapons by April 2012. Then it will take roughly two and a half years to to [sic] tear down the incineration complex, feeding the possibly contaminated building parts and equipment through the same burners that destroyed the liquid poison mixtures. After that, the almost 31-square-mile site is expected be a mix of industrial areas and nature preserves." http://crosscut.com/2011/10/11/military/21386/Umatilla-chemical-weapons:-end-of-a-nightmare/
Charamba, Douro 2008
Horse Heaven Hills, Cabernet 2010
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills Pinot Grigio 2011
Avignonesi, Montepulciano 2004
Lorelle, Willamette Valley Pinot Noir 2011
Villa Antinori, Toscana 2007
Mercedes Eguren, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Lorelle, Columbia Valley Cabernet 2011
Purple Moon, Merlot 2011
Purple Moon, Chardonnnay 2011
Abacela, Vintner's Blend No. 12
Opula Red Blend 2010
Liberte, Pinot Noir 2010
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Indian Wells Red Blend 2010
Woodbridge, Chardonnay 2011
King Estate, Pinot Noir 2011
Famille Perrin, Cotes du Rhone Villages 2010
Columbia Crest, Les Chevaux Red 2010
14 Hands, Hot to Trot White Blend
Familia Bianchi, Malbec 2009
Terrapin Cellars, Pinot Gris 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2009
Campo Viejo, Rioja, Termpranillo 2010
Ravenswood, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2010
Waterbrook, Reserve Merlot 2009
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills, Pinot Grigio 2011
Tarantas, Rose
Chateau Lajarre, Bordeaux 2009
La Vielle Ferme, Rose 2011
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio 2011
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir 2009
Lello, Douro Tinto 2009
Quinson Fils, Cotes de Provence Rose 2011
Anindor, Pinot Gris 2010
Buenas Ondas, Syrah Rose 2010
Les Fiefs d'Anglars, Malbec 2009
14 Hands, Pinot Gris 2011
Conundrum 2012
Condes de Albarei, Albariño 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2007
Penelope Sanchez, Garnacha Syrah 2010
Canoe Ridge, Merlot 2007
Atalaya do Mar, Godello 2010
Vega Montan, Mencia
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir, Marlborough 2009
Portuga, Rose 2011
Revelation, Chardonnay, Pays d'Oc 2010
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 2005
Monte Alto, Tinto Reserva 2005
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Cabernet, Indian Wells 2009
Espiral, Vinho Rose
Vin-Koru, Pinot Gris 2011
14 Hands, Hot to Trot Red 2009
Rodney Strong, Cabernet, Sonoma 2009
Abacela, Vintner's Blend #11
Portuga, White 2010
La Bourgeoisie, Red 2009
Januik, Red 2009
Three Rivers, River's Red 2008
Kirkland, Alexander Valley Merlot 2008
Muga, Rioja Rose 2010
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2009
Mauro Molino, Barbera d'Alba 2009
Garda Chiaretto Rose
Columbia Crest, Two Vines Vineyard 10 White
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Pinot Gris, Columbia Valley 2009
L'Hortus, Rose de Saignee 2010
Maculan, Pino & Toi 2008
McKinley Springs, Bombing Range Red 2008
Trader Joe's Pinot Gris 2009
Montes Alpha, Cabernet 2007
Gran Sasso, Sangiovese, Terre di Chieti 2009
Garda, Classico Chiaretto Rose
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1999
Picos del Montgo, Tempranillo 2008
Chateau de Montmirail, Vacqueyras 2008
La Granja 360, Syrah 2009
Montgras, Carmenere Reserva 2009
Lange, Pinot Gris 2009
Columbia Crest, Horse Heaven Hills Cabernet 2008
Kirkland, Pinot Grigio 2010
Trader Joe's Coastal Syrah 2009
Columbia Crest, Horse Heaven Hills Merlot 2008
Trader Joe's Coastal Chardonnay 2009
Vieux Papes Red
Domaine de l'Aujardiere, Chardonnay 2009
Santa Rita, Cabernet, Medalla Real 2007
Penfold's, Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet 2008
Guild, Red, Lot #02 2008
Dievole, Dievolino Sangiovese 2008
Laforet, Burgogne Chardonnay 2009
Columbia Winery, Merlot 2007
Bonterra, Cabernet 2008
Elk Cove, Pinot Gris 2009
Maquis Lien 2006
Scott Paul, Pinot Noir, Le Paulee 2007
The Occasional Book
Neil Young - Waging Heavy Peace
Mark Bego - Aretha Franklin, the Queen of Soul (2012 ed.)
Jenny Lawson - Let's Pretend This Never Happened
J.D. Salinger - Franny and Zooey
Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol
Timothy Egan - The Big Burn
Deborah Eisenberg - Transactions in a Foreign Currency
Kurt Vonnegut Jr. - Slaughterhouse Five
Kathryn Lance - Pandora's Genes
Cheryl Strayed - Wild
Fyodor Dostoyevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
Jack London - The House of Pride, and Other Tales of Hawaii
Jack Walker - The Extraordinary Rendition of Vincent Dellamaria
Colum McCann - Let the Great World Spin
Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince
Harper Lee - To Kill a Mockingbird
Emma McLaughlin & Nicola Kraus - The Nanny Diaries
Brian Selznick - The Invention of Hugo Cabret
Sharon Creech - Walk Two Moons
Keith Richards - Life
F. Sionil Jose - Dusk
Natalie Babbitt - Tuck Everlasting
Justin Halpern - S#*t My Dad Says
Mark Herrmann - The Curmudgeon's Guide to Practicing Law
Barry Glassner - The Gospel of Food
Phil Stanford - The Peyton-Allan Files
Jesse Katz - The Opposite Field
Evelyn Waugh - Brideshead Revisited
J.K. Rowling - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
David Sedaris - Holidays on Ice
Donald Miller - A Million Miles in a Thousand Years
Mitch Albom - Have a Little Faith
C.S. Lewis - The Magician's Nephew
F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby
William Shakespeare - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Ivan Doig - Bucking the Sun
Penda Diakité - I Lost My Tooth in Africa
Grace Lin - The Year of the Rat
Oscar Hijuelos - Mr. Ives' Christmas
Madeline L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
Steven Hart - The Last Three Miles
David Sedaris - Me Talk Pretty One Day
Karen Armstrong - The Spiral Staircase
Charles Larson - The Portland Murders
Adrian Wojnarowski - The Miracle of St. Anthony
William H. Colby - Long Goodbye
Steven D. Stark - Meet the Beatles
Phil Stanford - Portland Confidential
Rick Moody - Garden State
Jonathan Schwartz - All in Good Time
David Sedaris - Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim
Anthony Holden - Big Deal
Robert J. Spitzer - The Spirit of Leadership
James McManus - Positively Fifth Street
Jeff Noon - Vurt
Road Work
Miles run year to date: 21
At this date last year: 52
Total run in 2012: 129
In 2011: 113
In 2010: 125
In 2009: 67
In 2008: 28
In 2007: 113
In 2006: 100
In 2005: 149
In 2004: 204
In 2003: 269
Comments (32)
Apparently we're not leaving Afghanistan anytime soon? Or maybe we're invading someone else shortly?
Posted by canucken | October 9, 2011 12:56 PM
I believe there is a Stryker Brigade up at Fort Lewis/McChord in Washington state. I think they are being deployed in December to Afghanistan.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/08/3rd_stryker_brigade_from_joint_base_lewis-mcchord_will_deploy_to_afghanistan.html
They ship lots of stuff by rail.
Posted by thor | October 9, 2011 1:06 PM
Your post should be America, 1940 to Present. For better or worse, that is what we do and have been doing for a long time.
My friend who was an Air Force officer during the late 1980s and 1990s would tell me stories about how they transported ICBMs around the country. He was stationed in nuke missile silos in the midwest.
Posted by thor | October 9, 2011 1:14 PM
You all sure that's not for the Portland Police?
Posted by Allan L. | October 9, 2011 1:21 PM
M1126 Infantry Carrier Vehicle - ICV (NSN 2355-01-481-8575)
Unit cost in 2002: $1,411,000
Posted by Abe | October 9, 2011 1:25 PM
Abe - According to the link below, those babies now cost $3.8 million a pop. Ouch.
http://costofwar.com/en/publications/2011/analysis-fiscal-year-2012-pentagon-spending-request/
That could really put a down payment on a streetcar to Milwaukie.
Posted by thor | October 9, 2011 1:33 PM
RE: "...those babies now cost $3.8 million a pop"
the cost increase is due to emission controls and fuel economy measures to comply with the tighter California requirements
Posted by Mike (one of the many) | October 9, 2011 1:44 PM
Regardless of where you stand on military spending, that seems extraordinarily pricey to me.
Posted by Mr. Grumpy | October 9, 2011 1:57 PM
They are part of a system in which the Department of Defense (DOD), will spend approximately 12 billion dollars to consume 374,000 barrels of oil per day, to invade/occupy foreign lands in order to take what are fast becoming only buckets of oil for their efforts.
By comparison, Nigeria consumed almost 280,000 barrels per day and Greece 371,000 barrels per day in 2010.
Besides the trillions of DOD budget that the War Department can't account for, here is a peek at where some of the money goes:
http://karbuz.blogspot.com/
Posted by sheila | October 9, 2011 2:02 PM
Go By Train?
Posted by Old Zeb | October 9, 2011 2:39 PM
YIKES!
Posted by Portland Native | October 9, 2011 3:00 PM
Yeah, those are for Randy Leonard's water bureau police force.
Posted by pdxcad | October 9, 2011 3:27 PM
I cross the cut two to four times a day. That's cool, sorry I missed it.
Real Portlandians worry about are all of those cheap and evil cars from the orient* coming in from the marine terminals and being distributed by trains. EVERYDAY!
*hat tip to eddy said
Posted by LL | October 9, 2011 3:57 PM
Look out, Occupy Porland!
Posted by Snards | October 9, 2011 4:42 PM
Actually, I think it's the motor pool for the Mary Nolan City Council campaign.
Posted by Jack Bog | October 9, 2011 5:02 PM
no body noticed the black helicoptors flying cover
Posted by David E Gilmore | October 9, 2011 5:09 PM
The remains of a certain percentage of those machines are destined to rust forever in the harsh sun of Afghanistan and their former occupants will come home in a box.
Posted by reader | October 9, 2011 5:26 PM
Since even Congress doesn't get a vote on war any more, it really doesn't matter where they are going or for whom they will kill in our name.
Posted by Ralph Woods | October 9, 2011 6:44 PM
Nice color, though.
Posted by Bark Munster | October 9, 2011 6:53 PM
This isn't the first such movement...
In fact I took video of such a military train in Tigard some time ago, and shot a picture of another military train that travelled over Rex Hill to Newberg.
I do know that with one of the recent movements northbound through Portland (I did not get pictures of) that it was shadowed by some sort of security force, and that several railfan photographers were told not to photograph the train. However the security was not consistent as other photographers had no problem getting pictures and did not encounter the security.
Posted by Erik H. | October 9, 2011 7:40 PM
They are surplus, being brought here to be melted down and turned in to streetcars by Sam & Charlie's buddies over the iron works.
Thanks
JK
Posted by jim karlock | October 9, 2011 8:39 PM
I'm proud to live under the protection of the strongest military power in the World.
We're lucky the Chinese aren't in the pole position: they wouldn't be anywhere near as benign an occupation force as the US Army and Marines.
Posted by Mister Tee | October 9, 2011 9:19 PM
My God, a train load of tanks goes by and it's the end of the world.
I forgot that Oregon doesn't have any Military Bases.
Come on down to my house on the lake 12 Miles south of Offutt AFB and the Underground, pop a cold one on the deck, I I will give you a nice Daily Air Show of Looking Glass, AWACS, B1B, B2's and F16's.
Even had the pleasure of seeing the Space Shuttle docked to the 747 come in for a refueling stop on it's cross country jaunt from Edwards AFB to Cape Kennedy.
I also had the chilling sight of Air Force One flying in on 9-11.
Posted by PDXileinOmaha | October 10, 2011 7:38 AM
PDXleinOmaha - Oregon has a military base, the Umatilla Chemical Depot. It is eastern Oregon, which might as well be Pluto for those in western Oregon.
I used to live in Omaha, the home of Stratcom. Nice place but terrible summers - too hot and humid.
Posted by thor | October 10, 2011 9:32 AM
Let's make Oregon a military-free zone.
You know, pass laws and stuff that make the military illegal in Multnomah County, especially the Marines, cuz they're like storm troopers anyway, right?
We could, like, march and camp out and stuff like that till they all leave.
I mean, if we all get together and demand it, they'd have to, right?
And then we could all go back to doing whatever it is we do.
Posted by The Other Jimbo | October 10, 2011 9:37 AM
About two years ago, staying overnight in a house in North Portland, I looked out the front window early one morning and saw a military exercise being conducted on Willis Blvd., with uniformed soldiers getting out of vehicles and, carrying (presumably unloaded) weapons, deploying in various directions on foot. It was spooky.
Posted by Bee | October 10, 2011 10:42 AM
I forgot that Oregon doesn't have any Military Bases.
You're correct in that we don't have any military bases used by active duty, non-reserve or Guard aligned units.
That said:
We have two Air Force installations (Portland ANG Base and Kingsley Field ANG Base), both of which have F-15s assigned to them (Portland actually serves an alert function and is at the control of NORAD; Klamath Falls is a training facility).
We have the Umatilla Chemical Depot which is no longer used for any significant Army function (it is in the decommissioning process)
We have the Boardman Bombing Range, which is administered by the U.S. Navy (and has from what I've heard maybe one or two personnel assigned to it; it's also used by the Air Force)
We have several National Guard Camps (Camp Withycombe in S.E. Portland, Camp Rilea near Seaside - just to name two.)
We have numerous Coast Guard facilities (yup, the Coast Guard is still considered part of the military)
There used to be a big radar installation near Christmas Valley, but it is in the process of being torn down.
There's at least one other radar facility in Eastern Oregon (that caused an uproar when a wind turbine was to be constructed near it)
I believe there might still be a radar installation at Mt. Hebo, a former Air Force base (decommissioned since the 1970s)
Posted by Erik H. | October 10, 2011 12:57 PM
Thanks, Erik H., for this inventory of military investment in OR. There is also the potential use of parts of Central Oregon for drone testing:
"Eric Folkestad, an engineer who works on business development for the unmanned aerial vehicle manufacturer Arcturus UAV, said Central Oregon would be an attractive area to test the company’s small drones, if a military area opened to testing. Folkestad is based in Washougal, Wash., and the company’s plant is in Rohnert Park, Calif.
Compared with the Naval Weapons Systems Training Facility in Boardman, 'Central Oregon would be much nicer for us,' Folkestad said, adding that the company has an eight-person test crew. 'We definitely would consider it, and put it on our list of places to go.'"
http://www.dailyastorian.com/news/oregon/article_5d4fa45c-fd87-11df-b65a-001cc4c002e0.html
"Oregon Senator Ron Wyden has introduced an amendment to a federal aviation bill that would create up to 10 drone testing areas nationwide by 2012.
Proponents of the idea say that the growth of the UAV industry is being stunted due to a shortage of testing areas.
Collins Hemingway is leading an effort in Central Oregon to win approval for a testing area outside of Bend."
http://news.opb.org/article/wyden-introduce-amendment-create-drone-testing-areas/
More recently (4Oct),
"The Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs is looking to open the skies above its reservation to companies that want to test Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, or drones. But those plans have been dealt a set back by the Federal Aviation Administration."
http://www.eastoregonian.com/news/northwest/faa-grounds-warm-springs-drone-testing-plans-for-now/article_35ef0ce3-2914-5154-8014-dca2dda7aa39.html
Posted by Gardiner Menefree | October 10, 2011 1:26 PM
JK:They are surplus, being brought here to be melted down and turned in to streetcars by Sam & Charlie's buddies over the iron works.
Wonder if there is also a surplus of paint....has anyone else noticed that many of the new cars are the “new colors” of the year apparently, olive, the green and brown shades in the camouflage range?
I will take a look in the stores to see if those same colors are dominant in clothes. I imagine following in that range will be the appliances.
It may all fit then with our living in or getting accustomed to living in a camouflaged world!
Posted by clinamen | October 10, 2011 1:27 PM
Erik H. - Didn't know that the Umatilla Chemical Depot was in the process of being decommissioned.
Interestingly enough, on Friday I was talking to a gal whose husband was stationed there.
Posted by thor | October 10, 2011 2:55 PM
Thor, Eric H., Gardiner,
Thank You for the correction on Military Installations in Oregon. I was narrow focused on a Ft. Lewis or Offutt like base. Good info.
Posted by PDXileinOmaha | October 10, 2011 3:56 PM
Re: "Didn't know that the Umatilla Chemical Depot was in the process of being decommissioned."
thor,
"The Umatilla site is one of the last American chemical depots to destroy its nerve and mustard gas agents in compliance with the worldwide Chemical Weapons Conference pact of 1997, which calls for the United States to get rid of these weapons by April 2012. Then it will take roughly two and a half years to to [sic] tear down the incineration complex, feeding the possibly contaminated building parts and equipment through the same burners that destroyed the liquid poison mixtures. After that, the almost 31-square-mile site is expected be a mix of industrial areas and nature preserves."
http://crosscut.com/2011/10/11/military/21386/Umatilla-chemical-weapons:-end-of-a-nightmare/
Posted by Gardiner Menefree | October 11, 2011 3:51 PM