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Reader poll: Which of these GOP candidates is the scariest?

Given all their Jesus-freakiness of late, it's become kind of a three-way tossup. We'll ask our readers for their take:

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Michele Bachmann
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Rick Perry free polls

Comments (38)

Rick Perry is the chosen one. Not by any supernatural deity, but by the Bilderberger crowd (you know the uber-rich who gather once a year to make global plans).

Rich Perry was the only candidate- he is announcing this week- that was invited to attend this year's conference. And if you don't get invited, you WILL NOT be (s)elected.

So get ready for real scary, coming real soon.

Bachmann has yet to say anything that doesn't make me cover my face with the palm of my hand. A true wingnut if there ever was one.

Texas is getting ready to give us another one of their village idiots.

It can't be any worse the what Illinois just gave us last election.

Julie, it's even worse. Shrub was just a recipient of the good ole boy network's largesse. Perry would probably dig up his grandmother and screw her skeleton for the opportunity to be President. He's been obsessed with power for over 20 years (he even switched over to the GOP in the late Eighties only because the Texas Democratic Party expected him to work his way up), and he'd become a confirmed Satanist if he thought it could get him a couple of votes. (For that matter, lots of us down here can't figure out how the hell he keeps winning the governorship, other than figuring that electronic vote fraud is involved. By all rights, he should have been beaten like the family mule by Kay Bailey Hutchison in the gubernatorial primaries in 2010.)

Rick Perry, because he can win.


Not a good time to elect a border state governor, unless she has the impulses of the Richards. Her immigration efforts were rational and not draconian as popularly represented.

I'll be voting for Rick Parry.

You left off Obama.

Bachmann, because she's the smartest of the three (I disagree with her on every issue, but she's clearly an intelligent person with some wacky beliefs).

I don't think she can get the nom, but if another candidate tapped her for VP, that might be enough to put him over the top.

Rick Perry Says Social Security And Medicare Are Unconstitutional,
By Ian Millhiser, Think Progress .org, on Aug 12, 2011

Texas Triffid Ranch | 10:33 AM "... can't figure out how the hell he keeps winning ... other than figuring that electronic vote fraud is involved."
The lightbulb instant dawns, TTRanch, m'boy. Experience happens, as they say in the intelligence biz, obviously this ain't your first rodeo.

Ya'might wanna mention to other ranchers about computers in the polling booth stealing their voter ID's ... and once the computer withdraws their registration numbers from their accounts, folks never know where that computer is going to spend their votes.
People and this land and quality of life was a lot more American when we relied on personal-signature paper checks to buy things and personally-marked paper ballots to vote for the next four years.

Jack, it is passing strange how the rightwing talking-point parrots flock here and dump their doofus as if this was a birdcage liner they could cover up the printed news of, simply by bigger piles of their dumb. (Lars Larson especially can't hold himself back; the one saving grace is his limited capacity for thinking up new pseudonyms to use.) It'd be understandable if they sneaked in here (or other safe non-confrontational places) to have a peek at fact-based news and ideas going on in the real world outside their bubble of bobble-headed 'ditto'dupes.

But I don't get what they imagine they accomplish here (among adults discussing civics and civil affairs) where they pop in and spout out juvenile brattiness. What, that persuades 'others' to their point of view? Answer: Nope, it doesn't. What it looks like is an attempted glob of Cass Sunstein's "cognitive infiltration." (Google can explain.) The prominent example of which (cognitive infiltration) is Barack Obama, Republican rightwinger, going around wearing 'Democrat' scripted on the peel-n-stick label where his hand hides it while pledging his allegiance ... to more murderous war crimes for Old Glory.

They all scare the s**t out of me. Their institionalization of ignorance is terrifying. Get ready to bury all the money in the backyard and purchase a stockpile of arms. Here come the Republicans.

You look at a guy like Mark Hatfield, then you look at these people. Then you recoil in horror.

The scariest GOP presidential candidate in 2012 is Barak Obama.

Why would the Dems nominate a Repugnican again?

I love how liberals and Dems are always so 'sacred' of Republicans.

Reps call their opponents, wrong, dumb, naive, evil - all kinds of things, but the left is always terribly 'scared' of the other side.

And all because they want government to have LESS power. Baffling.

(sorry, 'scared')

You look at a guy like Wayne Morse (or Mike Mansfield, or Scoop Jackson, or HHH), then you look at these people in the White House, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Then you recoil in horror.

Sorry, but none of them are scary. I'd take anyone of them over the present WH occupant in a New York nanosecond.

(If you'd have included Ron Paul on the list I might have been tempted).

I miss Molly Ivins!
Any time the extreme religious (of any belief) take over politics and government any chance at a democratic government is seriously diminished, if not gone all together.
All three of these people are a danger to our republic.
To quote Abraham Lincoln (a Republican): "Your purpose, then, plainly stated, is that you will destroy the Government unless you be allowed to construe and enforce the Constitution as you please, on all points in dispute between you and us. You will rule or ruin in all events.

Clearly, Perry - the country elected an African American as POTUS last election - it'll will be a few more until a woman is elected, even a competent woman of any party, which Palin and Bachman are not. (For balance, neither would Pelosi, though she doesn't score near as high on the wingnut scale.) Like others have said, in this posting and others - where are the middle of the road Republicans? The Hatfields, and even the Packwoods?

I seriously couldn't choose one. They all scare the bejeezus out of me.

From Michelle "Yes, I really do think our nation should default" Bachmann, to reality show airhead and half-term-governor Sarah Palin, to a guy who has repeatedly talked about secession from the Union within the last couple of years.

Perry is the only one with a shot, but I just can't imagine that the nation would be ready to elect another cowboy governor from Texas next year.

The Dems are weak and the President is a disappointment to many, but they are blessed with an unadulterated freakshow across the aisle.

Where are the likes of Nelson Rockefeller, Jacob Javits, John Danforth, Richard Lugar, Charles Percy, Ray Shafer when the country needs them?

Of course, loonie religious righters just push the center towards the right... kind of reminds me of this...

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert."

(From The Second Coming aka Slouching Towards Bethlehem - WB Yeats)

I cannot think of a more backward use of Slouching towards Bethlehem.

Well LL that's your opinion and we are going to disagree about it forever. But I do believe we are headed for an apocalypse (pay attention to the Middle East and London anti-government activities, OK?) People are getting fed up with the Right doing its level best to entrench the rich parasites of this nation.

Get ready for Perry or Romney as President in 2013. Neither Bachman or Palin will matter much after those two have a runoff at the National Convention. Obama is toast.

I don't think Perry will wear well, betting it ends up a Romney/Bachman ticket. And by the general election Romney will have had 18 months to craft an economic message that fits his resume and has Obama reeling -- not much of a challenge, heck I could do it for him.

"Where are the likes of Nelson Rockefeller, Jacob Javits, John Danforth, Richard Lugar, Charles Percy, Ray Shafer when the country needs them?"

The Reagan era, which began with Reagan but still persists, effectively killed them off. That was the beginning of popularizing voodoo economics in place of real economics, of honoring the rich and the corporations while denigrating the poor and union members, of claiming that greed and selfishness are virtues and that empathy and compassion have no place in policy-making.

Times are bad, and our problems run deep and have been in the making for decades. Now a sizable portion of the population doesn't even know how to discern its own economic self-interest. Really, how could almost every member of one of our two political parties think its viable to sign on to a pledge ("the Ryan plan") to kill publicly funded health care for the aged and, basically, destroy the middle class?

Those of you who condemn Obama from a pre-Reagan-era perspective without looking at the current context in which he has to operate are being very simplistic. He and his policies are probably about as good as it gets in this political, economic and cultural climate.

Amen, Richard....

For the rest of you, I thought I'd share this little nugget on the immoral minority (and it ain't folks like me)

""But it’s important to remember that though they are in the news, they are not in the majority," Steinem continued. "And though they get elected, there's a huge race and gender differential on who votes for them. And if you were to add the governor of Texas, Rick Perry, they are the people our founders came to this country to escape," she told the lunch crowd. "They’re the same people, right? They're trying to say God looks like me and not like you, and to use that politically to make a religious base. And so it is really a kind of rerun.""

And hell yeah, my Anglo kin who kicked the Brits out of Mass. would be appalled by losers like these. My Italian ancestors would just leave the manu negru on their doors.

The scariest person is Palin because the whole process would descend in to an unmitigatd farce.

As it is, Obama is so bad that temptation is strong to help him lose. Michele Bachman could hardly be worse than him. She is a wingnut with linguistic ability, while Obama is a dingbat with linguistic ability. In the present day, it is not at all clear to me that dingbats are better than wingnuts. If we let the wingnut titanium-spine migrainers out of their cages to rule the roost, MAYBE the country would actually do better than it has been under the auspices of current present dingbat.

Rick Perry, I understand, has some very very serious skeletons in the closet, at least as bad as Bill Ayers and Rev Wright.
And while Bachman is a wingnut, she has never attempted to lead the population of the state of Texas to pray for rain.

Should be an interesting season.

If you have trouble deciding between Bachman and Obama, then you really don't know what you think or believe. They are poles apart. It's sad that people that "think" like you might vote.

Richard I'd buy you a drink if I could

None of these people are as scary as Obama. Obama's wild idea to fundamentally change our country has just about brought the country to its knees. He will not be re-elected. Bill Clinton was the first Dem to be re-elected since Franklin D. Roosevelt. Every once in awhile the American people feel the need to vote in a Dem just to remind themselves how horrible they are at governing the country. And, this is why we have a community organizer who is not up to the job of POTUS. American people won't let it happen again.

Romney or Perry will wing and quite possibly the Vice President will be Marco Rubio. Can't wait!!!

Have fun Kendal Jackson! if your prediction is correct. I hope you have LOTS of money, a gated house, guards, and guns to protect your family. Oh yes, and you had better be white and and a "born again Christian" of the correct sect! You are going to need all those things, and more.
You might also consider this; 'the best way to keep the poor subjugated, is to make them aspire to be rich'. Not really wealthy...just wanting to be, with no real hope of actually becoming so.
And if the dems are so horrible at governing the country then, why pray tell is the current deficit nearly 75% due to the years of Republican rule and government expansion?

This all you you need to know about Perry... looney tunes..

"Their beliefs can tend toward the bizarre. Some consider Freemasonry a “demonic stronghold” tantamount to witchcraft. The Democratic Party, one prominent member believes, is controlled by Jezebel and three lesser demons. Some prophets even claim to have seen demons at public meetings. They’ve taken biblical literalism to an extreme. In Texas, they engage in elaborate ceremonies involving branding irons, plumb lines and stakes inscribed with biblical passages driven into the earth of every Texas county.

If they simply professed unusual beliefs, movement leaders wouldn’t be remarkable. But what makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government. The new prophets and apostles believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take “dominion” over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the “Seven Mountains” of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they’re intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they’re leading an “army of God” to commandeer civilian government."

Be scared, very scared.

Apparently Ricky could only muster a 2.5 grade average at that TX ag school. That doesn't bode well.

I love it when people say that it's a sad thing that people who don't agree with them go out and vote. Such a powerful statement of position.

Once upon a time, I believed in the lesser of two evils, hell, I still think Gore was a way, way better bet against Bush.

But now, we voted in this golden boy, this eloquent, high-IQ guy who graduated magna cum etc, who endeared himself to us through a misty-making rhetoric. We said: we'll take this guy, and plus, we'll show the world we don't care about race as much as they think we do, and, and, this new day will dawn....

Well, guess what. It was a mirage. We have this dumb guy who can't lead his way through an ultra-short toast to the Queen of England without using index cards. Who maintains this aloof congress-needs-to-work-it-out schtick and gets passed this crazy healthcare reform bill that SCOTUS is going to reject. He can't work out a budget deal of any kind to save his life. Can't even close a few tax loopholes. Plays every whiney trick in the book about how white America can't take the fact that he's black. Tries to blame all his problems on the rich.

You know, some of us are less concerned about spending less and more concerned about how money is spent. We resent the waste inherent in public employee pensions. We want the library and the pools to be open more hours rather than pay everyone pensions and be stuck with fewer services. Schools can't afford enough assistants and a reasonable student-teacher ratio, because the emphasis is more on taking care of the adults in their old ages, than on taking care of the kid's needs. Child abuse goes unchecked, and sadists routinely get their kids back after a time.(Of course they need those kids in order to get food stamps and housing assistance, so they play very very nice to their caseworkers). We pay pensions to the whole mess of people who run social services, but we don't hire enough caseworkers to investigate abuse.
We pay cops a generous retirement and don't weed out the sadists in their ranks. You know why, of course, Richard.


And now that it's clear that unions are backing Obama, and he has shown himself to be a piss-poor leader, well, guess what, maybe some of us will indeed vote for a tax attorney wingnut, having concluded the error of our ways.

And when Obamaphiles are saddened by the dark ignorance that is driving other to vote against Obama, guess what, that makes us even more jazzed up to ditch him, just to thumb our noses at his arrogant, polarized political brethren.


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