What we need is a Presidential Candidate that offers us Hope and Change.

Meanwhile, among the 31 killed in the helo crash in Afghanistan today were 25 SEALS.

We still suspect that he's been dead for several years ...

I'm curious, why do you think that? Why do you think President Obama picked a few months ago as the time to say OBL was killed? Do tell.

Why do you think President Obama picked a few months ago as the time to say OBL was killed? Do tell.

Why do you assume Obama set the time? And why do you assume the tale is true? Do tell.

Meanwhile, among the 31 killed in the helo crash in Afghanistan today were 25 SEALS

If only you could ask "why?" in America without being called a terrorist or accused of having intense anti-patriotic hatred. What a country.

So sad that all those men have been killed.

Our domestic front's problem with heroin addiction is funding the enemy that killed them- take a look at what the madrassah students are made to do during their summer break. For sure protection money is being paid to the Taliban. And who funds the madrassahs? Our friends in Saudi Arabia, our chief high-tech weapons client. What's wrong with this picture?

http://tribune.com.pk/story/224821/illicit-drug-production-balochistan-madrassa-students-harvest-poppy-on-holidays/

Let's consider a change of course.

1)confront our domestic drug problem rationally- grow our own and make it all available by prescription.

2)Quit being nice about not offending religionists. If madrassahs are providing labor to the poppy trade to funnel money to the jihadis, wait until the kids are gone for the summer and level the empty buildings. As madrassahs get regularly leveled in the summers, over time so will the sense grow among the populace that perhaps madrassahs are not the best places to place the kids, even during the school year.

Yes, I know, maybe bad PR, attacking religious schools, even empty ones. This is why we are losing all these crazy wars we have taken on. Fear of bad PR.

If only you could ask "why?" in America without being called a terrorist or accused of having intense anti-patriotic hatred.

Not anymore, I don't think. Something most liberals and conservatives can agree upon these days is it's time to bring the troops home. Especially from Afghanistan. That godforsaken place has nothing worth spending American blood or treasure, and won't into the future as far as the eye can see.

If only you could ask "why?" in America without being called a terrorist or accused of having intense anti-patriotic hatred. What a country.

I don't think you directed that accusation at but just to clarify, I'm not questioning anyone's patriotism.

I'm curious about Jack's thoughts about the death of OBL. I never pegged him as a conspiracy type.

And why do you assume the tale is true? Do tell.

Because the folks at Al-Qaeda don't seem to contest that OBL is dead.

On a Sunday morning, White House officials bypass the White House Mess to send someone across the river to the Pentagon City Costgo (nearest Costgo), which doesn't accept Visa credit cards (the government issue), to pick up sandwiches. Plenty of yarning going on.

I love how its generally recognized now that the government lies all the time. Steve Pieczenik and others in the govt have gone public with the fact that OBL was dead a long time ago. This is just generally known among people who are awake and breathing. Yet nothing happens, which is exactly how it was at the end of the Soviet Union. The govt just kept lying, and eventually people just ignored the lies and then the mafia and the intel services moved in to carve up the place and impoverish the people even more...just like it will be here.

"I'm curious about Jack's thoughts .... I never pegged him as a conspiracy type."

If Jack harbors thoughts you don't know or didn't sense were in him, should we conclude you never pegged him at all?

When do you know you have a true and accurate 'peg' on a person?, is it that you know what they believe (in)?

Has there been a time when you pegged someone correctly, but at a later age (theirs or yours) they changed (from the effects of some new information or experience), and you had to re-peg them? Did you have your parents pegged differently when you were their child, than your peg of them later when you reached their age (that they conceived you)?

Okay, I gotta go. I'm going to go look for that witness you told me you saw at the scene. Oh, wait, Sir?, I know you're busy, it'll just take a minute of your time. One more question is all, just a little thing I can't quite make sense of in what you say: What are the characteristics of thought patterns in typical conspiracy spotters which you can judge truly to peg them as a conspiracy-seeing type?

(One interesting fellow suggests that people who can sometimes think they see a conspiracy are typically people who can tolerate a degree of ambiguity in the words of a reporter's description of a news scene, as opposed to the strict-reader type who can not tolerate any ambiguity or suspicion in received news reports and who strictly endows absolute accuracy in the words of the they-know-best news media.)

btw, one-time Reagan secretary, a guy named Roberts, also wrote including a couple more details about the New Yorker scoop of SEALS revealing their bin Laden 'wet' work. I'm curious about his thinking, I hardly would have any cabinet-level person around Reagan pegged as a conspiracy type.

"... at the end of the Soviet Union ... just like it will be here," USSAA+

One eyewitness at the end of the Soviet Union wrote this account of Best Practices in what that collapse situation is like.

Lies about lies, lies within lies, like wheels within wheels. We are left not knowing what to believe and wouldn't know the truth if we saw it. Which is the point. I may be wrong on dating it, but in my lifetime I date it to Kennedy's assassination. But in my parents' generation they said Pearl Harbor. In my grandparents' generation they said the USS Maine. So who knows when it started. But it is what it is.

Frankly, we are bit nuts on this topic.

"nuts" which way? By discussing and understanding it, or by meekly ignoring the lies so the tyranny increases?

LL - amen.