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Why 10:30 on a Sunday night?

The timing of the White House press conference regarding the killing of Osama sure was odd. Some folks are saying it was done to pre-empt Donald Trump's television show. Is there any other plausible reason?

Comments (27)

The Rihanna concert in the WH lasted until 10:00PM

Great "Wag the Dog" distraction as the USDollar flounders in devaluation and the country looks into the financial abyss.

Before going public, the White House was obligated to notify our principal allies, and U.S. embassies/installations. They also had to notify Congress and SCOTUS, if only to put them on alert for possible reprisal attacks.

The fact they killed/extracted/identified UBL and then went public with the information on the same day is remarkable. I doubt President Obama slept very much in the previous 24 hours to his press conference.

That we haven't seen any "pop-up" attacks from UBL's adherents is testament to how much Al Qaeda's capabilities have been eroded.

I think you're right... just a little icing on the cake from Obama's speech at the Correspondents' Dinner with Trump in attendance and taking a couple good body blows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkTzqIW-qw

Just a couple fun minutes watching Trump twist in his seat.

Probably as Mister Tee points out the word was out and they needed to be the ones to break the story.

No conspiracy here, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

They had to make an announcement because by the time the President talked, the news had been on the street for over an hour.

Have you seen the story about the guy who unknowingly live-tweeted the action? He was on vacation in a hotel down the block, complaining about the helicopters and explosions because they were ruining his holiday.

see http://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual

No conspiracy here

Too funny.

the news had been on the street for over an hour.

And who do you think put it there?

This whole episode confirms for me that the American public is a fat, dumb sheep that will soon be somebody else's leg of lamb.

I was shocked he did not announce it on Oprah.

Why 10:30 on a Sunday night?

As opposed to? I get the impression from reading through your posts since the announcement was made that no matter when or how the announcement was made you would have found fault with it. Your posts have read less like thoughtful analysis and more like a labored attempt to find things to complain about even if it requires you to resort to conspiracy theories.

Middle East is roughly 9 hours ahead of Washington time. The speech was timed as much for them as it was for us. That's my guess.

Rudy Giuliani, whose identity more than any other politician has been shaped by 9/11, was markedly restrained in an interview with Politico:

"I feel satisfaction and some emotional relief, but I don't feel great elation. I watch a lot of the celebrating and it makes me feel a little strange, I don't know. Nothing erases the loss of all those lives."

Could it have taken them all those hours to craft President Obama's speech? Maybe that had something to do with the late hour of the formal announcement.

Keep talking. You guys get funnier by the minute.

Everything about this was scripted. Everything.

Makes me wonder why they immediately buried him at sea without any kind of public vetting.

"We got him, trust us."

I'm surprised they didn't break out Bush's "Mission Accomplished" banner.

"Keep talking. You guys get funnier by the minute.

Everything about this was scripted. Everything."

Well then, please share your version of the story with the rest of us fat, dumb sheep.

I doubt President Obama slept very much in the previous 24 hours to his press conference.

I doubt he loses any sleep, he can read script and speak well, don't we all know by now?

As for those criticizing the comments here,
trolls are having a field day. Some might be from city hall.

Brendan,
Version?
Some of us know we haven't been told the truth for years, including the Kennedy assassination.

You may not have been born by then, and therefore, may not have experienced our country go downhill since.

the news had been on the street for over an hour.

And who do you think put it there?

A 33-year old Tweeting in Abbottabad broke the story, didn't he?: https://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual

Hey, lay off the fellow -- Obama even cut short his Sunday golf game after nine holes to get back into the bubble. Just how much more sacrifice can you expect from the dude?

Sorry Brendan, some of us dont believe everything is sunshine and flowers just because the POTUS changed. The same players still run the show, no matter who their talking head is.

I think its demmed odd that, after a 10-year manhunt (the last five looking for the compound), they dump this "icon of evil" overboard as quickly as they can after complaining that nobody was willing to take the body. Not even one "Hemingway Marlin" photo (at least that we know about). Anybody know what's happened to the 17 purported captured at the compound or are they on a swift boat to Guantanamo Bay?

Hey, lay off the fellow

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-dead.html

A detailed chronicle of the minute-by-minute tension in Obama's office.

Why does this event have GLOM writ large upon it?

NYT: "Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. fingered his rosary beads."

It takes a long time to complete a rosary, even if you are not prone to dozing, so the presser may have been delayed longer than anticipated by those not participating in the circular series of prayers. And, there may -- indeed, should -- have been dissension over the use of "Geronimo" as the moniker for ObL.

G.M.: are you saying the assassins used the codename 'Geronimo' when they were talking about their target bin Ladin?

Probably the answer to my question is in the massmind media fantasy script being indoctrinated and programmed into everyone's consciousness going on now ... sorry, I wasn't listening or reading any of it.

If 'Geronimo' was their codename for their victim, that is rich. totally rich, as a blatant insult to each person who believes the entire media-carried hoax that began with "Dubya won Florida's electoral votes, 2000" ... blantant insult because people are clueless about the significance within the Bush murderclan of their references to Mescalero Apache Geronimo. It's their 'brand' name, so citing the codename 'Geronimo' is a signal to people who are clued in that it's a Bush operation.

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Jack, I am WAAAAY impressed by your comments in these three threads on this topic -- The Great & Bogus bin Ladin Legend.
(Clue: I use the word 'Legend' because it is another codeword: 'Legend' is the 'brand' name for a CIA hoax, or what was popularized as "bad intelligence" when the 'Legend' failed to fool people. E.g., there is the The Great & Bogus Lone Gunman Legend.)
Jack's comments maintain the truth of the situation, against many brainwashed bozos regurgitating the Legend lye they swallowed.

I expect I may return and comment further ... reserving whatever right to revise and extend my remarks.

Meanwhile, here is mostly the story of truth Jack knows, but this is written by a gung-ho US Marine vet who used to buy into all the Bushmurderer lies and Legends. (note: 'Bushmurderer' means Prescott to Poppy to Puppet, 1916-present, as 'Bush Building' is the name bronzed on CIA Headquarters in Langley, VA. Prescott's immortal sin in his seed is his curse on America by desecrating the grave of Apache Geronimo who was deprived to death in US Army prison, 1909, and buried in the Ft. Sill (OK) Army Base ... where Prescott opened the grave and inhaled the vapors causing and breathed into his soul the fiendish dementia of Satanism.) Anyway, this Marine Gordon Duff completely rejected the Bushmurderer lies he used to believe and, walking it back, he began to know the truth ... which (he tells) happened at about the time that US Marines and Army soldiers and Navy Seals and Blackwater mercenaries began torturing people to death in Gitmo and other 'secret' torture chambers, committing massive war crimes and crimes against humanity which now forever stains and dishonors the Marines esprit which Duff so loved.

Link: Obama Announces bin Laden 'Still Dead'.
Includes this on-topic bit: "top 10 reasons for Bin Laden’s death announcement"

Tenskwatawa,

The NYT ("Behind the hunt for Bin Laden," Mazzetti, Cooper, Baker) provided this account yesterday:

The code name for Bin Laden was “Geronimo.” The president and his advisers watched Leon E. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, on a video screen, narrating from his agency’s headquarters across the Potomac River what was happening in faraway Pakistan.

“They’ve reached the target,” he said.

Minutes passed.

“We have a visual on Geronimo,” he said.

A few minutes later: “Geronimo EKIA.”

Enemy Killed In Action. There was silence in the Situation Room.

Finally, the president spoke up.

“We got him.”


Today, after Jay Carney's press briefing, the Envoy (Razin) offers
this account of revisions in the original tale of what appears to have been an assassination:

For instance, White House spokesperson Jay Carney said Tuesday that--contrary to earlier officials descriptions of a firefight--bin Laden didn't have a weapon during the Sunday raid. Bin Laden "was not armed," Carney said at the White House press briefing Tuesday. He was shot and killed after his wife "rushed the U.S. assaulter." You can watch Carney's exchange with the White House press corps in the video above.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theenvoy/20110503/ts_yblog_theenvoy/in-aftermath-of-bin-laden-raid-new-intelligence-shifting-accounts

Meanwhile, there is considerable discussion on the cable outlets (MSNBC especially) about the role of waterboarding and other tortures in obtaining clues regarding the location of ObL. The most-waterboarded detainees, it turns out, did not identify the courier: they were able to resist torture and to continue to lie.

"The top staffer for the Senate Indian Affairs Committee is objecting to the U.S. military's use of the code name 'Geronimo' for Osama bin Laden during the raid that killed the al-Qaida leader."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden_geronimo

"Jefferson Keel, president of National Congress of American Indians, the largest organization representing American Indians and Alaska Natives, said, 'Osama bin Laden was a shared enemy.'

Keel said that since 2001, 77 American Indians and Alaskan Natives have died defending the U.S. in Afghanistan and Iraq. More than 400 have been wounded."


It might also be noted that "Geronimo" was the triggering term employed by assassin-errant Jerry Fletcher (Mel Gibson)'s CIA-like handlers in Richard Donner's "Conspiracy Theory" (1997).

If there is any certainty about anything in this world it is that news like this is going to be grist for the mill of all of the conspiracy nuts out there. As one of my Obama hating friends reacted: "how do we KNOW he is dead"?, "How do we KNOW that that birth certificate isn't a fake?" "HOW DO WE KNOW???".....people like that will never be satisfied, will never believe anything that goes against their biases. When I pointed out to her we know by a preponderance of the evidence, common sense and rationality she just scoffed. What a fool I am for believing in something so silly as evidence. I asked her what evidence she had to refute either the birth certificate or the dead of OBL and she just laughed. It is much easier to just deny....9/11, the holocaust, Kennedy assasination, the Presidents birth or Osama's death. No proof needed, no need to change your mind about someone, no need to give credit where it is due.


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