Oregonlive says the suspect vehicle is a white Mercedes driving east on 84-- KGW says a dark Toyota. Neat.

I grew up in NE Portland. My girlfriend, who now lives with me near the water towers on Prescott and is a frequent neighborhood jogger, did not. In discussions about safe/not-safe places to be at night (blessedly short conversations) I've always steered her away from Holliday Park. Looks like I may need to amend the instruction to include daylight hours.

If it was an execution then the rest of us got nutten to worry about, right?

Maybe Lloyd Center should add an ammo shop.

Yeah, that new streetcar is gonna really fix that part of town right up!

I was robbed by gunpoint in September 1993
in front of the Red Lion Hotel at 10PM
The Scum was Never caught!

Who cares... One less scumbag gang member stealing oxygen....

"Who cares . . . One less scumbag gang member stealing oxygen . . ."

You may be right. But lets not forget the incident last year in North Portland where an 18-year-old (I'm forgetting the poor kid's name) was shot for little more than telling the wrong person to watch his mouth. My point is, gang bangers don't necessarily discriminate between good guys and bad guys.

Anytime this sort of thing happens it is a danger and a threat to us all.
Portland is just pathetic.

"Loading off a full clip" was the description from a witness. I this the way a Lloyd Center shopper views violence?

This is a prank story. Sam Adams is cracking down on gun violence, so this couldn't have happened.

A few blocks from where the last shooting happened.

My point is, gang bangers don't necessarily discriminate between good guys and bad guys.

Not just that, they will go after people who refuse to join gangs. Or go after their family members.
And its not just the park, there is a MAX stop there too. This could have been much worse.

a 14 year old boy was shot in the head. can we stop saying things "could have been worse?" seems like they were plenty horrific in actuality.

14 years old? Executed? I felt safer when I was stationed in Long Beach CA than I do at Lloyd ctr.

I also have a teen aged son. One more thing I have to worry about.

And instead of maybe funneling money into an overburdened school system or maybe bolstering anti-gang efforts, the mayor is more concerned with welfare spending.

That is making sure the developers and planners get their checks.

Color me disgusted.

Coming soon to Milwaukee and Lake Oswego!

a 14 year old boy was shot in the head. can we stop saying things "could have been worse?" seems like they were plenty horrific in actuality.

Relax...I only meant that stray bullets could have taken out innocent bystanders getting on or off the train. It did happen at commute time.

Guess it's time for Sam to sponsor another gun buy-back.

Coming soon to Milwaukee (sic) and Lake Oswego!

Posted by pdxmick | April 18, 2011 10:47 PM

Oh come on Mick, the getaway vehicle was a CAR. This has nothing to do with max or the non existent streetcar at Lloyd center. But you already knew that.

"This has nothing to do with max"

Tell that to everyone in Rockwood close to MAX.

Where is the "Community" outrage? Where are the Revs Jackson and Sharpton? I guess black on black crime doesn't allow for the same opportunity to shakedown whitey.

My wife & I have used that Max stop many times over the last 5 yrs--it's a 10 min walk from our front door.

People of rockwood-You are hereby notified that a shooting 10 miles away in which the perps drove away in a car has nothing to do with max.

How was that, Steve?

"You are hereby notified that a shooting 10 miles away in which the perps drove away in a car"

Correct, just the ongoing petty crime that surrounds the MAX line in their neighborhood.

Sigma,
Are you a proponent of the streetcar? Note the crime increase on the new line to Clackamas.

http://lewwaters.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/clackamas-sheriff-blames-new-max-line-for-crime-increase/

From what I can tell this happened at or near the bus stop on N.E. 11th and Multnomah, about one block north of the MAX line.

Therefore, the assumption to be made is that the bus service in Portland is only used by gang members and other undesirable citizens and we should continue to pull out of providing bus service and focus our efforts on the MAX and Streetcar lines, where TriMet is busy installing cameras at all MAX stations that do not have cameras, a Transit Police force and Transit Supervisors who can enforce fares, private security forces, and other security amenities that don't exist on the bus lines.

Coupled with the "dog poo" incident (on a bus) and the "spitter" incident of a couple days ago, security on the bus system is just horrible, and we must get together behind a more secure, more safe MAX light rail and Streetcar system because buses are just out of control. And all those TriMet bus Operators who make a lot of money and benefits, it's all their fault...they get a nice health care insurance package, so let's blame them for the lapses in security.

(In all seriousness, with the spitter incident, now I know why health insurance costs so much for a bus driver. At least MAX operators are in a locked, shielded compartment with no interaction with passengers.)

What Erik said. This has nothing to do with streetcar, max, bus, or transportation in general. But to continue the logic employed by Steve et. al, we should use this incident to ban cars, since that's what the shooters used to get away.

Holladay Park has become an attraction for all sorts of unsavory/criminal actions. It wasn't too long ago that it was a safe place--summer picnics, etc. No more.

Several years ago I met with the county sheriff's undercover drug team (I was doing economic research on the cost of drug abuse). The biggest, burliest guy on their squad said to me that he would never go to Lloyd Center or allow anyone in his family to go. It's gang territory.

"But to continue the logic employed by Steve et. al, we should use this incident to ban cars"

To accurately continue my logic, we should allow cars, but we have a provision for policing their use unlike TriMet doesn't do with MAX.

"He was a student who had ability," said Malone. "He was a respectful kid."

This is 14 year old scumbag gang member?

"Who cares... One less scumbag gang member stealing oxygen...." yes keep that comment up-it says so much.

In the plus column, at least the PPB didn't shoot anybody.

Well, he died this morning. One less kid for you all to bash.