Somebody was bound to do it, but we're glad it wasn't us: Willamette Week has decided to reveal the identity of Neil Goldschmidt's now-deceased statutory rape victim. It's been on the internet for a while, if you knew where to look. (For example, just run a search for "Dunham" through this document -- incompetently redacted.)
If this helps us figure out who knew about the prolonged abuse of this teenager and covered up for Goldschmidt -- whose many friends still run Portland, if not all of Oregon -- the additional details may turn out to play a legitimate role in shaping the future of our civic life. But we doubt that it will, and if it doesn't, what's the point?
UPDATE, 10:12 p.m.: Utterly fascinating -- now the O has an extensive story by Margie Boule on the wire. Willy Week apparently has one or more moles inside the O, and WW flashed some of its story this afternoon, probably so that it could get at least something on the internet before the daily did.
Like everyone else, we will read Ms. Boule's version. But after that newspaper's stunningly corrupt handling of this story over several decades -- particularly the way it portrayed the "affair" when the whistle was finally being blown -- we would not trust anything the O published about Neil Goldschmidt, or anything he touched, ever.
Comments (37)
Might be more effective to remind the uppity types in wine country that something actually did happe:
What a creep. My younger sister was in her class at SMA. Puts things in perspective to me. Can't believer there's a statute of limitations for this. No conscience, no soul.
This so so disturbing on many levels. When you stand back and look at the sickness in so many places at such levels in the higher crust of Oregon. The secrecy and cover-ups are integral to to this kind of thing continuing. No wonder a mayor can be creepy. Once we see what a beautiful and promising girl destroyed by that cable of editors, officials and money handlers.
The wines of Adelsheim, Patti Green and Rex Hill will never grace my table.
Makes Teddy K's blubbering last month about "losing his mentor" all the more infuriating. It's too bad Goldie's ghost will continue to haunt us for many years, given the number of his coatholders entrenched in high state offices.
Yet the former politician doesn't necessarily want to use his name on the label, even though grapes purchased from his property are referred to as fruit from the Goldschmidt Vineyards. He said the vineyard partnership includes other people and using his name feels a little uncomfortable.
"The winery name is a project we'll have to tackle in the upcoming months," Goldschmidt added.
"His name is so well known," said an Oregon grape grower. "Who in the Northwest doesn't know the name Goldschmidt? Seems like a natural selling point to me."
I'll probably be excommunicated for this comment. But after reading all the latest developing news about Ms. Dunham's life, I made the connection of OHSU to Goldschmidt to her. OHSU is suppose to bring us good health-its mission.
Some at OHSU speculated, knew of this story-before WW first reported the beginning story, then worse, even after. They employed Goldschmidt and his firm to advocate for taking $250 million in state lottery dollars for OHSU; for instigating the tram; the donation of Schnitzer property to OHSU, and other insidious OHSU endeavors. And this analogy applies to other scenarios that have ensued in the past several decades concerning Goldschmidt.
The question is, "When do you stop doing business with souls like Goldschmidt?" Most of us wouldn't after several points along this path. An institution didn't live up to its Mission. And I think this may be one small part that Ms. Dunham lamented and wanted known.
"His name is so well known," said an Oregon grape grower. "Who in the Northwest doesn't know the name Goldschmidt? Seems like a natural selling point to me."
This state is about as advanced as any rural county in Alabama.
The Avalon site states that Goldy's "politics are for a safe clean environment".
Oh?...Really?...
I imagine his victim would disagree.
IF I buy any Oregon pinot noir again I will do some serious research to
be sure it is not continated with anything grown on his soil.
All of you progressives want to rant about Goldschmidt's grapes getting in your favorite bottle of Oregon wine yet you continue to vote for the same bunch that are sycophants and enablers of the former governor.
Not all Goldy Demos are slime bags. Please remember one Democrat who lost big time when he blew the whistle on Kulongowski.
Fred Leonardt is a true hero, who spoke truth to power, and got slimed by the Goldy-Kulo (and Roberts-Kitz-Imeson?) kabal when he outted Sleepy Ted and his knowledge of Goldy's crime.
I heard Fred once say something like "How could I not come clean with the info about Kulo, I have two daughters of my own".
He paid a HUGE price in Oregon political circles when he talked. Most Demos here just looked the other way.
As a people, I think it's a real triumph of civilization to find justice in wine selections and regret. Well, the system can't do anything about it and the law is the law, after all. And we ought to be able to enjoy a good pinot noir and watch the protests in Egypt with a kind of thankfulness and relief that our own civil society would never crumble into such chaos.
LexusLibertarian:All of you progressives want to rant.....
Not all!
Unfortunately, bad scene here, with insiders. Candidates not in that circle have difficulty even getting press and/or are marginalized. The people of Portland need to wake up and not vote for the revolving door of familiar names continuing the agenda.
Another matter and hesitate to bring this up, but can we trust those in charge of election software? I haven’t read the book, but looks like one a citizen should read.
For those that are interested, do the research and reach your own conclusions.
Statewide voter registration system nickname: OCVR [Oregon Central Voter Registration]
State of Oregon placed on Black Box Voting Watch List Aug. 2009 due to hiring state elections director with history of obstructiveness to public observation. (See news article this section)
Starbuck, I was around in Goldschmidt's so-called glory days. I remember standing on the plaza in front of the UofO Fishbowl as Neil gave his spiel in hopes of becoming student body president. My thoughts then were "he's a charlatan".
My question of "when do you stop doing business" was already answered for me. I'm just bewildered that others who knew even more in years past didn't stop doing his business. Then, even after his confession there are those still doing business with him. Our city and state has a moral dilemma.
Another disturbing aspect of many of the posts about this, and in the past, is how people give so much credit to one individual(Neil), and others, generally speaking. And for what they think are accomplishments that are now debatable. I knew several of the people that contributed, whether successful or not. But our society seems to strive to credit one or a few when it is collective.
The anti-thesis of "credit" should also be applied to the facts about Ms. Dunham, for all those even a small party to it.
"we would not trust anything the O published about Neil Goldschmidt"
I'd have to agree - Remind them of something like Neil is still selling grapes in McMinnville or that his BFF Imeson is still running Kitz' staff and it'll get pulled down very quickly.
"Sadly, it appears that much of her account is fabricated and I can only speculate as to her reasons." Neil Goldschmidt - 1 hour ago - Statesman Journal
I don't need to speculate Goldschmidt's reasons.
An old friend of mine is gone, and yet he continues to abuse her.
genop, you are evil . . . and brilliant. Unfortunately, I don't think many people are following this thread anymore so they'll miss out on your burst of wit.
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Comments (37)
Might be more effective to remind the uppity types in wine country that something actually did happe:
http://www.avalonwine.com/Goldschmidt-winery.htm#axzz1Cfjd70Bw
Instead of pretending like nothing happened.
Posted by Steve | January 31, 2011 6:57 PM
BTW - If you think the WW mentioning it is a waste, then the 318-page report is as bad.
This is Oregon and Neil will get his way.
Posted by Steve | January 31, 2011 7:00 PM
"Now if Goldschmidt can just find a name for the winery..."
Any takers?
Posted by PDXLifer | January 31, 2011 7:12 PM
I'm thinking,
"Pedot Pinot"
What a creep. My younger sister was in her class at SMA. Puts things in perspective to me. Can't believer there's a statute of limitations for this. No conscience, no soul.
Posted by PDXLifer | January 31, 2011 7:16 PM
Bastard.
Posted by Jack Bog | January 31, 2011 7:16 PM
Dunham Hills Vineyard
Posted by none | January 31, 2011 7:20 PM
This so so disturbing on many levels. When you stand back and look at the sickness in so many places at such levels in the higher crust of Oregon. The secrecy and cover-ups are integral to to this kind of thing continuing. No wonder a mayor can be creepy. Once we see what a beautiful and promising girl destroyed by that cable of editors, officials and money handlers.
The wines of Adelsheim, Patti Green and Rex Hill will never grace my table.
Posted by dman | January 31, 2011 7:41 PM
Goldschmidt makes me sick!
His victim should have justice.
Posted by Portland Native on the road | January 31, 2011 7:53 PM
Makes Teddy K's blubbering last month about "losing his mentor" all the more infuriating. It's too bad Goldie's ghost will continue to haunt us for many years, given the number of his coatholders entrenched in high state offices.
Posted by Eric | January 31, 2011 7:54 PM
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Posted by Mister Tee | January 31, 2011 8:05 PM
From the wineries web site, sick, sick, sick:
Yet the former politician doesn't necessarily want to use his name on the label, even though grapes purchased from his property are referred to as fruit from the Goldschmidt Vineyards. He said the vineyard partnership includes other people and using his name feels a little uncomfortable.
"The winery name is a project we'll have to tackle in the upcoming months," Goldschmidt added.
"His name is so well known," said an Oregon grape grower. "Who in the Northwest doesn't know the name Goldschmidt? Seems like a natural selling point to me."
Read more: http://www.avalonwine.com/Goldschmidt-winery.htm#ixzz1Cg0h3bhZ
LORD HELP US ALL...
Posted by Anthony | January 31, 2011 8:05 PM
When first I read "Teddy K" I actually thought it referred to Mary Jo's fellow.
A kinship does exist there.
Posted by larry | January 31, 2011 8:05 PM
dman -
Educate me please.
Whats the connection between the child rapist and Rex Hill / Adelsheim.
And who is Patti Green?
Thank you.
Posted by Nonny Mouse | January 31, 2011 8:07 PM
Here is the URL for the Goldschmidt Vineyard, http://www.goldschmidtvineyards.com/
If you would like to drop them an email here is that address:
WINE@GOLDSCHMIDTVINEYARDS.COM
Posted by Anthony | January 31, 2011 8:15 PM
Please ignore the previous posting, that is a vineyard in California.
Sorry about that.
Posted by Anthony | January 31, 2011 8:17 PM
What?? The Oregonian recognizes something bad happened???
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/01/neil_goldschmidt_sex_abuse_vic.html
What a pathetic publication.
Posted by PDXLifer | January 31, 2011 9:09 PM
I'll probably be excommunicated for this comment. But after reading all the latest developing news about Ms. Dunham's life, I made the connection of OHSU to Goldschmidt to her. OHSU is suppose to bring us good health-its mission.
Some at OHSU speculated, knew of this story-before WW first reported the beginning story, then worse, even after. They employed Goldschmidt and his firm to advocate for taking $250 million in state lottery dollars for OHSU; for instigating the tram; the donation of Schnitzer property to OHSU, and other insidious OHSU endeavors. And this analogy applies to other scenarios that have ensued in the past several decades concerning Goldschmidt.
The question is, "When do you stop doing business with souls like Goldschmidt?" Most of us wouldn't after several points along this path. An institution didn't live up to its Mission. And I think this may be one small part that Ms. Dunham lamented and wanted known.
Posted by lw | January 31, 2011 9:31 PM
Child Rapist Red.
Posted by Mojo | January 31, 2011 9:39 PM
I'd boycott any winery that bought grapes from Goldschmidt's vineyard.
And she's not just his anonymous victim anymore.
Posted by dg | January 31, 2011 10:19 PM
"Bastard."
Sorry, you're late:
http://www.fatbastard.com/our-wines.php
Since no one in state/city or local govt is going to do anything, I am not going ot buy Oregon wine any more.
Posted by Steve | February 1, 2011 6:15 AM
Patti Green is Patricia Green:
http://www.patriciagreencellars.com/
"Whats the connection between the child rapist and Rex Hill / Adelsheim."
Neil is what the French call a negociant, he basically grows grapes to sell to vintners like Rex Hill and Adelsheim.
Of course, I'm sure even the French would call him a couple of other things, but I'll leave it at that.
Posted by Steve | February 1, 2011 6:19 AM
Sorry, one more thing from the WEBsite, a quote:
"His name is so well known," said an Oregon grape grower. "Who in the Northwest doesn't know the name Goldschmidt? Seems like a natural selling point to me."
This state is about as advanced as any rural county in Alabama.
Posted by Steve | February 1, 2011 6:34 AM
The Avalon site states that Goldy's "politics are for a safe clean environment".
Oh?...Really?...
I imagine his victim would disagree.
IF I buy any Oregon pinot noir again I will do some serious research to
be sure it is not continated with anything grown on his soil.
Posted by Portland Native on the road | February 1, 2011 6:44 AM
Would someone please enlighten me here?
All of you progressives want to rant about Goldschmidt's grapes getting in your favorite bottle of Oregon wine yet you continue to vote for the same bunch that are sycophants and enablers of the former governor.
What's up with that?
Posted by LexusLibertarian | February 1, 2011 7:16 AM
Not all Goldy Demos are slime bags. Please remember one Democrat who lost big time when he blew the whistle on Kulongowski.
Fred Leonardt is a true hero, who spoke truth to power, and got slimed by the Goldy-Kulo (and Roberts-Kitz-Imeson?) kabal when he outted Sleepy Ted and his knowledge of Goldy's crime.
I heard Fred once say something like "How could I not come clean with the info about Kulo, I have two daughters of my own".
He paid a HUGE price in Oregon political circles when he talked. Most Demos here just looked the other way.
Posted by Harry | February 1, 2011 7:35 AM
Lexus
Not me! I do not vote members of Goldy's cabal.
Too many evils in those wine cellars!
Posted by Portland Native on the road | February 1, 2011 8:09 AM
Just think, had she told authorities and had he been arrested when he was mayor, what would Oregon and Portland be like today?
Posted by RW | February 1, 2011 8:48 AM
No more Oregon pinots for me unless it's stated on the label: This product is Goldschmidt free.
Posted by Deborah | February 1, 2011 8:57 AM
He's a dirtbag.
Posted by Snards | February 1, 2011 9:13 AM
As a people, I think it's a real triumph of civilization to find justice in wine selections and regret. Well, the system can't do anything about it and the law is the law, after all. And we ought to be able to enjoy a good pinot noir and watch the protests in Egypt with a kind of thankfulness and relief that our own civil society would never crumble into such chaos.
Posted by ep | February 1, 2011 9:56 AM
LexusLibertarian:All of you progressives want to rant.....
Not all!
Unfortunately, bad scene here, with insiders. Candidates not in that circle have difficulty even getting press and/or are marginalized. The people of Portland need to wake up and not vote for the revolving door of familiar names continuing the agenda.
Another matter and hesitate to bring this up, but can we trust those in charge of election software? I haven’t read the book, but looks like one a citizen should read.
For those that are interested, do the research and reach your own conclusions.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/book.html
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/165/165.html?1291650488
(OR) State of Oregon
Statewide voter registration system nickname: OCVR [Oregon Central Voter Registration]
State of Oregon placed on Black Box Voting Watch List Aug. 2009 due to hiring state elections director with history of obstructiveness to public observation. (See news article this section)
Posted by clinamen | February 1, 2011 10:39 AM
lw:...The question is, "When do you stop doing business with souls like Goldschmidt?"...
You stop when you no longer allow your ego to run your life.
Posted by Starbuck | February 1, 2011 10:52 AM
Starbuck, I was around in Goldschmidt's so-called glory days. I remember standing on the plaza in front of the UofO Fishbowl as Neil gave his spiel in hopes of becoming student body president. My thoughts then were "he's a charlatan".
My question of "when do you stop doing business" was already answered for me. I'm just bewildered that others who knew even more in years past didn't stop doing his business. Then, even after his confession there are those still doing business with him. Our city and state has a moral dilemma.
Another disturbing aspect of many of the posts about this, and in the past, is how people give so much credit to one individual(Neil), and others, generally speaking. And for what they think are accomplishments that are now debatable. I knew several of the people that contributed, whether successful or not. But our society seems to strive to credit one or a few when it is collective.
The anti-thesis of "credit" should also be applied to the facts about Ms. Dunham, for all those even a small party to it.
Posted by lw | February 1, 2011 3:51 PM
"we would not trust anything the O published about Neil Goldschmidt"
I'd have to agree - Remind them of something like Neil is still selling grapes in McMinnville or that his BFF Imeson is still running Kitz' staff and it'll get pulled down very quickly.
Posted by Steve | February 1, 2011 6:29 PM
"Sadly, it appears that much of her account is fabricated and I can only speculate as to her reasons." Neil Goldschmidt - 1 hour ago - Statesman Journal
I don't need to speculate Goldschmidt's reasons.
An old friend of mine is gone, and yet he continues to abuse her.
Posted by Bad Brad | February 1, 2011 8:21 PM
"Now if Goldschmidt can just find a name for the winery..."
"Statutory Grape" best consumed while immature. "We drink all wine before its time"
Posted by genop | February 2, 2011 9:30 AM
genop, you are evil . . . and brilliant. Unfortunately, I don't think many people are following this thread anymore so they'll miss out on your burst of wit.
Posted by Eric | February 2, 2011 12:51 PM