"That is why I am a founding member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns." What's it take to be a founding member? Do you have to be around when 15 others mayors launch a coalition?
This is so sad, and I would like to ask Where is AMA? The AMA stands unified in front of cameras ranting on police shooting black citizens. Why aren't they standing along with the honorable(cough) Rev. Jackson deploring blacks shooting blacks?
Really? You don't think there's any difference between a bunch of thugs terrorizing people and uniformed representatives of the government killing people? Didn't the AMA also protest the police killing of non-black James Chasse?
If anybody knows how to excite teenagers, it is the Mayor of Portland.
Hey guys, I have an idea: let's quit villifying the Po-Po when they follow their escalation of force guidelines, and encourage them to intimidate the wannabee 'bangers before they cross the line. I've seen some of Portland's so called "gang members" and most of them wouldn't last an hour in East L.A.
I wondered how long it would take for this kind of law to be proposed.
If maybe the local economy could be improved, or perhaps if the schools didn't have to compete with developers for funding, or maybe if instead of feel good utopian laws, we had a city government that worked on city problems.
Instead of sticking its nose in everything that makes them look good to their perceived base, they could address things that mean something, like allowing job creation for those who are bordering on walking down the criminal path, or establishing a real safety net for mental health issues.
Hey Sam, Chicago has some of the most strict gun laws in the country, and it buries its young men far more often than we do. I'm not arguing for more guns. I'm saying that the gold plated leeches we call developers are bleeding us dry, and preventing the city from doing one of its basic functions.
Think of a larger, better trained, less stressed police force. A better, larger jail (Wapato, anyone?) Better schools, parents with a bit more of their own money, spending more time with their own at risk youths.
No, Sam, I guess you are right, a new streetcar will fix everything. Actually,with more transit,the criminals can go somewhere else!!
No one seems to care about gangs killing each other. The North Portland community doesn't seem to do anything about it. Obviously they are afraid physically, but even worse, they are afraid to violate the code of silence that prevails, of not being a snitch. Whenever they, in that community, decide that they are going to put themselves on the line and stand up against the violence and the younger kids being indoctrinated into the gang type activities, that will be, at least a beginning to reducing violent action. Hopefully some of the church groups there might lead the way.
That is why I am a founding member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
Yeah. that'll show all the mayors who are *pro* illegal guns. Jesus.
Let's see this clearly and unequivocally for what it really is: a press release, aimed at being a bullet point on a "list of accomplishements" under the topic "Police Bureau" when Mayor Creepy inevitably runs again.
Ironically I was at a city-funded program for ninth grade teenagers that helps get them excited and keep them out of any vulnerability, " said Mayor Adams, " I don't think John Canda has participated in any of the activities. He has a different view of things."
If he acted any more like a dramatic queen, I'd swear he was gay. And what the he*l does "keep them out of any vulnerability" even mean?
He told NewsChannel 8 that he didn't want to respond to Canda's comments and that it will further divide the community
You mean, like telling a string of lies in public to get elected, then telling more lies after being elected, then being a laughingstock of a public servant? Yeah, *that'll* unite the community.
"I can tell you the mayor is very engaged," said Assistant Police Chief Eric Hendricks. "I've talked with the mayor and his aides . . . He's interested, engaged, and involved."
Translation: I like my job. I didn't like Sizer. I'm making sure to suck up.
I think it's illegal in the state of Oregon for local communities to make gun related ordinances. It's in the Oregon constitution, no?
Besides, this isn't the solution. Taking gang bangers off the street with more enforcement, more manpower, more jail space is the key. If we weren't throwing our money down the toilet with pet sammy projects, maybe we could achieve some of this.
Cracking down on bubba in Gresham who legally owns guns and buys them legally isn't going to solve any problems -- it'll make you look good in the ranks of the anti-gun nuts.
Mister Tee can you please tell me why you are such a cop sucker? I mean that in the nicest way. It seems like you are a sucker for all those guys in uniform no matter what they do or do not do.
Some years ago I tried to explain to then candidate Adams that one of the ways to reduce crime was to improve transportation so that people in low income areas could find work. Unfortunately Adams cannot put two and two together. He doesn't get it and neither do most of the political idiots in Portland.
Firstly, I love the first few bloggers who let their racism show by mentioning the AMA and Jesse Jackson everytime a shooting is considered "gang-related".
It's all of our responsibility. It doesnt matter how well I raise mine if the one down the street becomes a gang banger or a Kip Kinkle and shoots mine.
The no-snitching was not invented by the black community. Many communities have mistrust of LE. Immigrant Italians, Irish, Eastern Europeans, Asians have had insular communities wary of LE. I'm sure if there were more snitches, we'd know where Kyron is.
Ms. C. your average redneck doesn't know anything except their own culture. Even the cops don't exactly sing loudly to the "rat squad". There tends to be a closing of the ranks to outsiders, first. And second, those of us from certain cultures learned at a very early age to keep our mouths shut and stay out of things that did not involve us. That way we continue not to be involved and trust me when dealing with criminals that is often a good idea.
Then of course, unlike the gang bangers in the hood, Italian organized crime did not shoot up innocent people in drive bys or for the most part (at least until the 60s) seek to poison their own kind with drugs. And many of those in the Mafia did not want their kids in the Mafia. They wanted them educated and working straight jobs.
My understanding is that Asian criminals have a long history of shakedowns of the innocent.
The organized crime syndicates of the early 20th century were always more than happy to kill and maim innocent people who got in their way, didn't pay protection money, or gave information to authorities. That was how they maintained and grew their power. People didn't just hand over a portion of the proceeds of their businesses because the thugs in their neighborhoods were such nice guys; there was an implied -- and sometimes carried out - threat of businesses being wrecked and livelihoods being destroyed.
And I'd be willing to bet that a lot of people involved in gangs don't want their kids to have the same lifestyle, either.
Sorry darrelp, I think your knowledge of Italian organized crime is pretty weak and I am betting you are not from the East Coast and of Southern Italian origins. I cannot speak to other ethnic groups but I can to Southern Italians. And also know the reasons that organized crime started in So. Italy. And it's those origins that paved the way for it to come here.
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Comments (20)
Creepy is working on his Shooting Park idea. At present the Parks people are fighting the Fire Department for funding and control.
Posted by Abe | August 21, 2010 8:33 AM
Jeez, what do people expect from the mayor on this whole gang shooting thing?
He tweeted about it! Move on.
Posted by none | August 21, 2010 8:44 AM
"That is why I am a founding member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns." What's it take to be a founding member? Do you have to be around when 15 others mayors launch a coalition?
Posted by dhughes609 | August 21, 2010 8:54 AM
This is so sad, and I would like to ask Where is AMA? The AMA stands unified in front of cameras ranting on police shooting black citizens. Why aren't they standing along with the honorable(cough) Rev. Jackson deploring blacks shooting blacks?
Posted by phil | August 21, 2010 9:00 AM
Really? You don't think there's any difference between a bunch of thugs terrorizing people and uniformed representatives of the government killing people? Didn't the AMA also protest the police killing of non-black James Chasse?
Posted by darrelplant | August 21, 2010 9:11 AM
Jack gets to go to Oswald West while we stay in Detroit West. Hot time in the city, baby.
Posted by Gary D. | August 21, 2010 9:17 AM
Darrelplant,
Yes maybe once, but not usually and not with Rev. Jackson
Posted by phil | August 21, 2010 9:30 AM
"Ironically I was at a city-funded program for ninth grade teenagers that helps get them excited..." said Mayor Adams.
Posted by Max | August 21, 2010 9:36 AM
If anybody knows how to excite teenagers, it is the Mayor of Portland.
Hey guys, I have an idea: let's quit villifying the Po-Po when they follow their escalation of force guidelines, and encourage them to intimidate the wannabee 'bangers before they cross the line. I've seen some of Portland's so called "gang members" and most of them wouldn't last an hour in East L.A.
Posted by Mister Tee | August 21, 2010 9:50 AM
I wondered how long it would take for this kind of law to be proposed.
If maybe the local economy could be improved, or perhaps if the schools didn't have to compete with developers for funding, or maybe if instead of feel good utopian laws, we had a city government that worked on city problems.
Instead of sticking its nose in everything that makes them look good to their perceived base, they could address things that mean something, like allowing job creation for those who are bordering on walking down the criminal path, or establishing a real safety net for mental health issues.
Hey Sam, Chicago has some of the most strict gun laws in the country, and it buries its young men far more often than we do. I'm not arguing for more guns. I'm saying that the gold plated leeches we call developers are bleeding us dry, and preventing the city from doing one of its basic functions.
Think of a larger, better trained, less stressed police force. A better, larger jail (Wapato, anyone?) Better schools, parents with a bit more of their own money, spending more time with their own at risk youths.
No, Sam, I guess you are right, a new streetcar will fix everything. Actually,with more transit,the criminals can go somewhere else!!
God (or your higher power of choice) help us.
Posted by roy | August 21, 2010 1:11 PM
No one seems to care about gangs killing each other. The North Portland community doesn't seem to do anything about it. Obviously they are afraid physically, but even worse, they are afraid to violate the code of silence that prevails, of not being a snitch. Whenever they, in that community, decide that they are going to put themselves on the line and stand up against the violence and the younger kids being indoctrinated into the gang type activities, that will be, at least a beginning to reducing violent action. Hopefully some of the church groups there might lead the way.
Posted by Bill A | August 21, 2010 2:14 PM
That is why I am a founding member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
Yeah. that'll show all the mayors who are *pro* illegal guns. Jesus.
Let's see this clearly and unequivocally for what it really is: a press release, aimed at being a bullet point on a "list of accomplishements" under the topic "Police Bureau" when Mayor Creepy inevitably runs again.
Ironically I was at a city-funded program for ninth grade teenagers that helps get them excited and keep them out of any vulnerability, " said Mayor Adams, " I don't think John Canda has participated in any of the activities. He has a different view of things."
If he acted any more like a dramatic queen, I'd swear he was gay. And what the he*l does "keep them out of any vulnerability" even mean?
He told NewsChannel 8 that he didn't want to respond to Canda's comments and that it will further divide the community
You mean, like telling a string of lies in public to get elected, then telling more lies after being elected, then being a laughingstock of a public servant? Yeah, *that'll* unite the community.
"I can tell you the mayor is very engaged," said Assistant Police Chief Eric Hendricks. "I've talked with the mayor and his aides . . . He's interested, engaged, and involved."
Translation: I like my job. I didn't like Sizer. I'm making sure to suck up.
Posted by the other white meat | August 21, 2010 2:50 PM
I think it's illegal in the state of Oregon for local communities to make gun related ordinances. It's in the Oregon constitution, no?
Besides, this isn't the solution. Taking gang bangers off the street with more enforcement, more manpower, more jail space is the key. If we weren't throwing our money down the toilet with pet sammy projects, maybe we could achieve some of this.
Cracking down on bubba in Gresham who legally owns guns and buys them legally isn't going to solve any problems -- it'll make you look good in the ranks of the anti-gun nuts.
Posted by GunsAreGreat! | August 21, 2010 3:17 PM
Same old Sam Adams BS.
About the only thing encouraging about this release is that Sam didn't try to connect the gang shootings as the result of not enough bike paths.
This guy is hopelessly compromised, but here's a prediction: He'll get re-elected and it won't be close.
Posted by The Other Jimbo | August 21, 2010 5:28 PM
Mister Tee can you please tell me why you are such a cop sucker? I mean that in the nicest way. It seems like you are a sucker for all those guys in uniform no matter what they do or do not do.
Posted by LucsAdvo | August 21, 2010 8:06 PM
Some years ago I tried to explain to then candidate Adams that one of the ways to reduce crime was to improve transportation so that people in low income areas could find work. Unfortunately Adams cannot put two and two together. He doesn't get it and neither do most of the political idiots in Portland.
Posted by Bluecollar Libertarian | August 21, 2010 8:37 PM
Firstly, I love the first few bloggers who let their racism show by mentioning the AMA and Jesse Jackson everytime a shooting is considered "gang-related".
It's all of our responsibility. It doesnt matter how well I raise mine if the one down the street becomes a gang banger or a Kip Kinkle and shoots mine.
The no-snitching was not invented by the black community. Many communities have mistrust of LE. Immigrant Italians, Irish, Eastern Europeans, Asians have had insular communities wary of LE. I'm sure if there were more snitches, we'd know where Kyron is.
Posted by Ms. Contrarian | August 21, 2010 10:39 PM
Ms. C. your average redneck doesn't know anything except their own culture. Even the cops don't exactly sing loudly to the "rat squad". There tends to be a closing of the ranks to outsiders, first. And second, those of us from certain cultures learned at a very early age to keep our mouths shut and stay out of things that did not involve us. That way we continue not to be involved and trust me when dealing with criminals that is often a good idea.
Then of course, unlike the gang bangers in the hood, Italian organized crime did not shoot up innocent people in drive bys or for the most part (at least until the 60s) seek to poison their own kind with drugs. And many of those in the Mafia did not want their kids in the Mafia. They wanted them educated and working straight jobs.
My understanding is that Asian criminals have a long history of shakedowns of the innocent.
Posted by LucsAdvo | August 21, 2010 10:58 PM
The organized crime syndicates of the early 20th century were always more than happy to kill and maim innocent people who got in their way, didn't pay protection money, or gave information to authorities. That was how they maintained and grew their power. People didn't just hand over a portion of the proceeds of their businesses because the thugs in their neighborhoods were such nice guys; there was an implied -- and sometimes carried out - threat of businesses being wrecked and livelihoods being destroyed.
And I'd be willing to bet that a lot of people involved in gangs don't want their kids to have the same lifestyle, either.
Posted by darrelplant | August 22, 2010 8:28 AM
Sorry darrelp, I think your knowledge of Italian organized crime is pretty weak and I am betting you are not from the East Coast and of Southern Italian origins. I cannot speak to other ethnic groups but I can to Southern Italians. And also know the reasons that organized crime started in So. Italy. And it's those origins that paved the way for it to come here.
Posted by LucsAdvo | August 22, 2010 1:57 PM