What if they rebuilt a transit mall and the bus system collapsed?
While they make busy work laying dopey new streetcar lines to nowhere, the wheels are coming off Portland's bus system. How the people who manage Tri-Met still have jobs after all their missteps is a testament to how awful our state government can be when it's at its worst. If Chris Dudley promises to clean out the Goldschmidt chaff, I might actually be tempted to vote for him.
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I really liked the letter detailing lots of Tri-Met boondoogles in spending
Investigate for yourself Chris Dudley's connection with Innovation Partnership and those interests like the CISF and Real Estate Trust who are after our public properties. (Unless there is another Chris Dudley)
Why do you think PPS wants to sell two or three large sites like Franklin and Marshall, when we have 330,000 new residents expected by 2020 according to very recent Census data?
Do you think the PPS Board comes up with these ideas on their own?
Oh here we go, the smear to exclude anyone who would purge the status quo.
Yeah elect Kitzhaber who will sustain every member or clone of the TriMet board and all things status quo.
And stop the Creepy recall to preserve good goverment and Portland.
And oh yes Mark the poor PPS board members are vulnerable.
Then why do you and yours push those clones upon the system every cycle and obstruct anyone out of the mold?
330,000 new residents expected by 2020 according to very recent Census data
Wrong! The City of Portland population grows at about 1.3% a year at most. Over the next 10 years, that would amount to about 80,000 new residents. At most.
Jack is right. The 330,000 number people like Sam the Tram and the Metroids bandy about is actually the Portland region, which includes Multnomah, Washington, Clackamas, Yamhill, Clark, and (yes, really) Skamania counties.
What Scam Adams won't tell you is that most of that growth will take place outside of Multnomah County. We can double, triple, quadruple the miles of bikelanes and streetcars to take us from the Pearl to SoWa, and it won't do a dang thing for most of the people who live in the region or move to the region.
Are those "creatives" in NW Portland paying their TriMet tax?
Meanwhile the construction chicanes (sewers for fish, streetcars for ??) are wasting large amounts of fuel as cars and trucks start, stop, change lanes, stop again...
How are these 330,000 people going to get to Portland if we don't build a $4.2B bridge? Oh no!
Better get moving on that quick, Sam, and don't forget the bike lanes on the new bridge, because the immigrants to Portland will be so poor that they won't be using moving vans from wherever they come from.
Simply open the transportation market and allow private companies to own and operate a bus, tax, ride sharing cab or jitney business. No monopolies allowed!
The Census data was posted in the Oregonian Nov 09 and says 330k for the tri county area, not just Portland proper. Does not say for Portland.
Does that make it reliable?
Metro just completed their projections also which are on line.
I have no opinion on what those true numbers may be because projections are too often inaccurate, but they must be used according to the statutes for planning purposes ( ORS 195.110 and ORS 197)
We are in Periodic Review if you were unaware, and PPS is compelled to complete facility planning by Dec 2009. oops wonder why they're not done yet?
It would seem transportation planning is a very important driver in urban planning. You might want to read what they are proposing.
And I agree with Jack that with this economy and the jobs they are seeking we might not see 80,000.
Not advocating for anyone for any political position, just make certain you know who you are voting for.
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Comments (15)
I really liked the letter detailing lots of Tri-Met boondoogles in spending
Posted by LucsAdvo | February 10, 2010 6:30 AM
Investigate for yourself Chris Dudley's connection with Innovation Partnership and those interests like the CISF and Real Estate Trust who are after our public properties. (Unless there is another Chris Dudley)
Why do you think PPS wants to sell two or three large sites like Franklin and Marshall, when we have 330,000 new residents expected by 2020 according to very recent Census data?
Do you think the PPS Board comes up with these ideas on their own?
Think again.
Posted by mark | February 10, 2010 7:46 AM
...when we have 330,000 new residents expected by 2020 according to very recent Census data...
drink the whole pitcher, didja?
Posted by cc | February 10, 2010 8:38 AM
Oh here we go, the smear to exclude anyone who would purge the status quo.
Yeah elect Kitzhaber who will sustain every member or clone of the TriMet board and all things status quo.
And stop the Creepy recall to preserve good goverment and Portland.
And oh yes Mark the poor PPS board members are vulnerable.
Then why do you and yours push those clones upon the system every cycle and obstruct anyone out of the mold?
Posted by Ben | February 10, 2010 8:40 AM
330,000 new residents expected by 2020 according to very recent Census data
Wrong! The City of Portland population grows at about 1.3% a year at most. Over the next 10 years, that would amount to about 80,000 new residents. At most.
Posted by Jack Bog | February 10, 2010 8:49 AM
Jack is right. The 330,000 number people like Sam the Tram and the Metroids bandy about is actually the Portland region, which includes Multnomah, Washington, Clackamas, Yamhill, Clark, and (yes, really) Skamania counties.
What Scam Adams won't tell you is that most of that growth will take place outside of Multnomah County. We can double, triple, quadruple the miles of bikelanes and streetcars to take us from the Pearl to SoWa, and it won't do a dang thing for most of the people who live in the region or move to the region.
Posted by Garage Wine | February 10, 2010 9:06 AM
Are those "creatives" in NW Portland paying their TriMet tax?
Meanwhile the construction chicanes (sewers for fish, streetcars for ??) are wasting large amounts of fuel as cars and trucks start, stop, change lanes, stop again...
Posted by Don | February 10, 2010 9:10 AM
Okay, so we know that light rail is great for scoring drugs. Have we figured out the purpose of the streetcar yet?
Posted by native oregonian | February 10, 2010 9:50 AM
How are these 330,000 people going to get to Portland if we don't build a $4.2B bridge? Oh no!
Better get moving on that quick, Sam, and don't forget the bike lanes on the new bridge, because the immigrants to Portland will be so poor that they won't be using moving vans from wherever they come from.
Posted by Mike (the other one) | February 10, 2010 9:58 AM
Simply open the transportation market and allow private companies to own and operate a bus, tax, ride sharing cab or jitney business. No monopolies allowed!
Posted by Michael H. Wilson | February 10, 2010 10:11 AM
The Census data was posted in the Oregonian Nov 09 and says 330k for the tri county area, not just Portland proper. Does not say for Portland.
Does that make it reliable?
Metro just completed their projections also which are on line.
I have no opinion on what those true numbers may be because projections are too often inaccurate, but they must be used according to the statutes for planning purposes ( ORS 195.110 and ORS 197)
We are in Periodic Review if you were unaware, and PPS is compelled to complete facility planning by Dec 2009. oops wonder why they're not done yet?
It would seem transportation planning is a very important driver in urban planning. You might want to read what they are proposing.
And I agree with Jack that with this economy and the jobs they are seeking we might not see 80,000.
Not advocating for anyone for any political position, just make certain you know who you are voting for.
Posted by mark | February 10, 2010 11:17 AM
...when we have 330,000 new residents expected by 2020 according to very recent Census data?
Again, the danger of extrapolating short-term trends. The Census data are estimates.
And do you think they might have the migration part of the equation wrong? Who would move to a region with 12% unemployment?
Posted by MJ | February 10, 2010 11:17 AM
See Human Transit's commentary on the TriMet cuts here:
http://www.humantransit.org/2010/02/portland-2010-service-cuts-announced.html
Posted by Jarrett at HumanTransit.org | February 10, 2010 4:22 PM
Listen yourselves to this fast talking bullsh***r yourselves:
BS number 2
BS number 1
Posted by al m | February 10, 2010 9:18 PM
woops...sorry bout the typo..
Posted by al m | February 10, 2010 9:21 PM