Mayor Denny Doyle said Tuesday that any of the bond options are possible but he vowed to negotiate "the best deal possible for Beaverton residents.
Mayor Doyle: Hey, Beaverton resident! I'd like you to help pay for construction ofa ballpark.
Beavertonian: A ballpark? I like baseball. How much do you want? $20? $50?
Mayor Doyle: Oh no--about $30-40 million, paid over 20 years. But it'd only cost you about $55/yr for those twenty years.
Beavertonian: You want me to pay at least $1000 to help build it? What do I get for all that money?
Mayor Doyle: Why, baseball!
Beavertonian: But I can see baseball at PGE Park down the road, and major league ball on big screen TV at any sports bar, etc. Why a new stadium for a minor league team?
Mayor Doyle: Not enough, eh? Well, there'll be lots of economic benefits, too. Local businesses will see plenty of revenue increase from all those people coming to see baseball.
Beavertonian: But aren't all those people going to buy concessions inside the stadium, then go home after the game?
Mayor Doyle: Well...
Beavertonian: And what about study after study I read about showing that ballparks are almost certain economic boondoggles--except to owners? There's not a single ballpark anywhere where the local economy sees a significant change. And what about all that lousy traffic from people traveling to and from the game? 217 and the Sunset are already a mess.
Mayor Doyle: Oh, well, you see, baseball and apple pie! Beaverton pride! It's good for us, I say, good for us! Don't believe all those facts and figures compiled the past several decades--this is new, different! It's Merritt Paulson!
Beavertonian: So for a thousand dollars, I don't get anything except...wait, did you say Paulson? Why isn't *he* paying for it? He's a millionaire, and his dad could write a check tomorrow to cover it!
Mayor Doyle: Oh, this is about citizen involvement, sharing the risk and reward, etc. C'mon, baseball! Maybe even soccer!
Beavertonian: If it's a sound investment, why isn't Paulson financing it himself, or with private funds? Why do us taxpayers have to chip in?
Mayor Doyle: Because it's such a sweet deal, he won't do it unless we do!
Beavertonian: If it's such a sweet deal, why isn't Portland doing it? or Clackamas County? Or all the other places where it could go?
Mayor Doyle: (sigh) Oh, you just don't understand this sort of deal. Listen-I'll try to force feed you a bond measure and tax your property, or some other means of payment. You really just need to get over all this "critical thinking" stuff. And why don't you put down that calculator? It's giving me a headache...
Any politician with half a brain should realize that supporting a frill such as minor league baseball in this economic climate is political suicide. The bond payments will add at least $55/yr. to the budget of EVERY citizen who pays a mortgage, uses natural gas and buys electricity. The VAST majority of these people don't care about baseball. Minor league baseball sucks in comparison to the major league game, and it's hard to develop a substantial fan base that allows it to become self sufficient. Let these guys find an abandoned cow pasture somewhere in a small town in the middle of nowhere because that is the only economic model that makes sense for the game at this level.
Let's see ... Paulson pays $8 million up front, but then gets to choose a no-bid developer to build the $50+ million facility. Call me a cynic, but it looks to me like he's gonna get that $8 mil back pretty quick.
Now he pays $500K a year for 20 years. That cash flow will pay debt service on about $10 million. But the city wants to borrow as much as $50 million?
THAT's how bad this deal is: Beaverton wants to pay for a $50,000,000 asset and hand it over to a millionairre for less than 1/5 of its value.
Denny Doyle IS a chump. the only question is are the other city council members this stupid?
It’s usually not a good deal when your expenses are spelled out to the dollar with certainty that you will pay for years. But your revenue is based on assumptions and guesses about the future. See South Waterfront.
I wish someone would do a simple comparison study of the cost of other minor league stadiums. I'm guessing you'd turn up plenty of examples of prefectly functional stadiums being built for less than $10 million, maybe even much less.
Charamba, Douro 2008
Horse Heaven Hills, Cabernet 2010
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills Pinot Grigio 2011
Avignonesi, Montepulciano 2004
Lorelle, Willamette Valley Pinot Noir 2011
Villa Antinori, Toscana 2007
Mercedes Eguren, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Lorelle, Columbia Valley Cabernet 2011
Purple Moon, Merlot 2011
Purple Moon, Chardonnnay 2011
Abacela, Vintner's Blend No. 12
Opula Red Blend 2010
Liberte, Pinot Noir 2010
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Indian Wells Red Blend 2010
Woodbridge, Chardonnay 2011
King Estate, Pinot Noir 2011
Famille Perrin, Cotes du Rhone Villages 2010
Columbia Crest, Les Chevaux Red 2010
14 Hands, Hot to Trot White Blend
Familia Bianchi, Malbec 2009
Terrapin Cellars, Pinot Gris 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2009
Campo Viejo, Rioja, Termpranillo 2010
Ravenswood, Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2010
Waterbrook, Reserve Merlot 2009
Lorelle, Horse Heaven Hills, Pinot Grigio 2011
Tarantas, Rose
Chateau Lajarre, Bordeaux 2009
La Vielle Ferme, Rose 2011
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio 2011
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir 2009
Lello, Douro Tinto 2009
Quinson Fils, Cotes de Provence Rose 2011
Anindor, Pinot Gris 2010
Buenas Ondas, Syrah Rose 2010
Les Fiefs d'Anglars, Malbec 2009
14 Hands, Pinot Gris 2011
Conundrum 2012
Condes de Albarei, Albariño 2011
Columbia Crest, Walter Clore Private Reserve 2007
Penelope Sanchez, Garnacha Syrah 2010
Canoe Ridge, Merlot 2007
Atalaya do Mar, Godello 2010
Vega Montan, Mencia
Benvolio, Pinot Grigio
Nobilo Icon, Pinot Noir, Marlborough 2009
Portuga, Rose 2011
Revelation, Chardonnay, Pays d'Oc 2010
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 2005
Monte Alto, Tinto Reserva 2005
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Cabernet, Indian Wells 2009
Espiral, Vinho Rose
Vin-Koru, Pinot Gris 2011
14 Hands, Hot to Trot Red 2009
Rodney Strong, Cabernet, Sonoma 2009
Abacela, Vintner's Blend #11
Portuga, White 2010
La Bourgeoisie, Red 2009
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Three Rivers, River's Red 2008
Kirkland, Alexander Valley Merlot 2008
Muga, Rioja Rose 2010
Quinta das Amoras, Vinho Tinto 2009
Mauro Molino, Barbera d'Alba 2009
Garda Chiaretto Rose
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Laforet, Burgogne Chardonnay 2009
Columbia Winery, Merlot 2007
Bonterra, Cabernet 2008
Elk Cove, Pinot Gris 2009
Maquis Lien 2006
Scott Paul, Pinot Noir, Le Paulee 2007
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Comments (6)
Mayor Denny Doyle said Tuesday that any of the bond options are possible but he vowed to negotiate "the best deal possible for Beaverton residents.
Mayor Doyle: Hey, Beaverton resident! I'd like you to help pay for construction ofa ballpark.
Beavertonian: A ballpark? I like baseball. How much do you want? $20? $50?
Mayor Doyle: Oh no--about $30-40 million, paid over 20 years. But it'd only cost you about $55/yr for those twenty years.
Beavertonian: You want me to pay at least $1000 to help build it? What do I get for all that money?
Mayor Doyle: Why, baseball!
Beavertonian: But I can see baseball at PGE Park down the road, and major league ball on big screen TV at any sports bar, etc. Why a new stadium for a minor league team?
Mayor Doyle: Not enough, eh? Well, there'll be lots of economic benefits, too. Local businesses will see plenty of revenue increase from all those people coming to see baseball.
Beavertonian: But aren't all those people going to buy concessions inside the stadium, then go home after the game?
Mayor Doyle: Well...
Beavertonian: And what about study after study I read about showing that ballparks are almost certain economic boondoggles--except to owners? There's not a single ballpark anywhere where the local economy sees a significant change. And what about all that lousy traffic from people traveling to and from the game? 217 and the Sunset are already a mess.
Mayor Doyle: Oh, well, you see, baseball and apple pie! Beaverton pride! It's good for us, I say, good for us! Don't believe all those facts and figures compiled the past several decades--this is new, different! It's Merritt Paulson!
Beavertonian: So for a thousand dollars, I don't get anything except...wait, did you say Paulson? Why isn't *he* paying for it? He's a millionaire, and his dad could write a check tomorrow to cover it!
Mayor Doyle: Oh, this is about citizen involvement, sharing the risk and reward, etc. C'mon, baseball! Maybe even soccer!
Beavertonian: If it's a sound investment, why isn't Paulson financing it himself, or with private funds? Why do us taxpayers have to chip in?
Mayor Doyle: Because it's such a sweet deal, he won't do it unless we do!
Beavertonian: If it's such a sweet deal, why isn't Portland doing it? or Clackamas County? Or all the other places where it could go?
Mayor Doyle: (sigh) Oh, you just don't understand this sort of deal. Listen-I'll try to force feed you a bond measure and tax your property, or some other means of payment. You really just need to get over all this "critical thinking" stuff. And why don't you put down that calculator? It's giving me a headache...
Posted by ecohuman | September 23, 2009 8:15 AM
Hmm. That's a switch. Usually in Beaverton they like to acquire the property, then tear everything on it down before they do any kind of math...
Posted by RANZ | September 23, 2009 9:43 AM
Any politician with half a brain should realize that supporting a frill such as minor league baseball in this economic climate is political suicide. The bond payments will add at least $55/yr. to the budget of EVERY citizen who pays a mortgage, uses natural gas and buys electricity. The VAST majority of these people don't care about baseball. Minor league baseball sucks in comparison to the major league game, and it's hard to develop a substantial fan base that allows it to become self sufficient. Let these guys find an abandoned cow pasture somewhere in a small town in the middle of nowhere because that is the only economic model that makes sense for the game at this level.
Posted by Usual Kevin | September 23, 2009 9:47 AM
Let's see ... Paulson pays $8 million up front, but then gets to choose a no-bid developer to build the $50+ million facility. Call me a cynic, but it looks to me like he's gonna get that $8 mil back pretty quick.
Now he pays $500K a year for 20 years. That cash flow will pay debt service on about $10 million. But the city wants to borrow as much as $50 million?
THAT's how bad this deal is: Beaverton wants to pay for a $50,000,000 asset and hand it over to a millionairre for less than 1/5 of its value.
Denny Doyle IS a chump. the only question is are the other city council members this stupid?
Posted by Not a chump | September 23, 2009 9:49 AM
It’s usually not a good deal when your expenses are spelled out to the dollar with certainty that you will pay for years. But your revenue is based on assumptions and guesses about the future. See South Waterfront.
Posted by Mike D | September 23, 2009 10:10 AM
I wish someone would do a simple comparison study of the cost of other minor league stadiums. I'm guessing you'd turn up plenty of examples of prefectly functional stadiums being built for less than $10 million, maybe even much less.
Posted by Snards | September 23, 2009 2:12 PM