From my probably obnoxious ex-Bay Area resident's viewpoint, people in Portland always think you're supposed to drive slow.

I never drive slow unless I spot CA plates behind me.

Ya. They always drive slow in Oregon. Plus, even though we get plenty of rain, everyone slows down to a crawl when we get a drizzle. People here actually need to take a hint from California drivers..... speed the eff up. The worst has got to be the morons who clog up the left lane on freeways. I end up passing on the right over and over, which is very unsafe. Cops should be giving out hefty fines for dummies clogging up the left lane. Germany does a great job of teaching and enforcing left lane rules. Seems like we could follow their lead, being the "euro" city that we are so often labeled.

See, this is the reason why I argue that Dallas is a much more civilized city than Portland. Here, the worst offenders on the roads conveniently label themselves by putting bumper stickers from KLTY and KCBI, two local Christian stations, on their cars. Coming up behind someone with a KLTY sticker in the fast lane? Well, prepare either for the dolt to drop to 35 with no warning (probably because the driver is in awe of buildings a whole two stories tall, complete with indoor outhouses, too), or for that driver to cut across four lanes of traffic with no signals and no warning to hit an offramp.

Actually, come to think of it, Portland already has this. Even better, the worst offenders actually pay for their "Keep Portland Weird" stickers.

Everybody should slow down. We're running ourselves to death for people like Paulson and his masters. In fact, if we keep it up, some of the frustrated jerks in Portland might move away and other jerks who would pour in here will go someplace else. Think of it as a passive overgrowth-control behaviour.

Neil Young - Roll Another Number (11/15/73) NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBtW0WxfSo

Also, when it's hot people tend to leave the house wearing things they have no business in. Not trying to be a BRUNO or anything, but puleez, people - remember the rest of us have to live here too, so tie it up, spray it down, tuck it in and zip it up for pity's sake....Bleckkk!

I never thought I'd be defending Oregon drivers, but from the level of heat-addled-braininess I've seen in the last couple days, I am probably more comfortable with people driving slow.

I dunno RANZ, the scenery's been rather nice in my neighborhood...

Every single morning I get behind someone going 20 in a 30 speed zone. Yes, I know I could leave earlier and not be in such a hurry but what I don't understand is why can't they pull over and let people pass them if they don't want to drive the speed limit? I thought everyone knew that 30 means 35! Another thing....why don't people in Oregon honk at bad drivers?Grrrrrrrr

Why were you in such a hurry to get to the liquor store?

On the freeways and state highways Oregon drivers are slow and they like the left lane. Alot. In addition, they don't like people to merge in front of them. That's considered "pushy" and a clear trait of Conservative Republican.

In the neighborhoods you have to drive slow. There's a bike in front of you taking up the whole lane. He (or she) making the world a better place and you late for work.

If you don't like it, go behind me.

I'm one of those people looking for some jerk with a Mercedes/over-the-top SUV/Beemer/other luxury sports car to ride my bumper while I do the speed limit. I'm getting to the point where I need a new rig, and I'd love to have some immigrant moron pay for it. It'd be even better if it had Calfornicate plates.

"what I don't understand is why can't they pull over and let people pass them if they don't want to drive the speed limit? "

Gettingroadrage, it's aggression, pure and simple. If these people were aggressive to you in your face, they know they'd get their @$$e$ kicked. So they act aggressively in their cars instead.

Godfry, see the comment above. Realize that you are part of the problem.

CBB, so true! That's why I moved to Nevada! Here we drive 80 on the freeway, and move over for others. Have fun in PDX, suckers!

but what is the speed limit. 55, 65, 75? no ones knows cause the govt refuses to change the signs for lack of funds.

I don't know how you drive godfry, but you sure have a lot of class resentment and anti-Californian xenophobia issues to deal with.

Godfry makes me laugh with his/her diatribes !!!

I grew up in Kansas and I am blown away by the puritanical liquor regulation in Oregon. In the Sunflower State - you know, the place where 4/7 State Board of Education members don't believe in evolution - liquor stores are privately owned, open early and late, plentiful and therefore conveniently located, and have a wider selection. The only state I've ever visited with similarly restrictive liquor regulation was Utah, but at least there I could understand why. I think Oregon's beer and wine lobby must be the reason why its so inconvenient to buy a bottle of booze.

I don't know how you drive godfry, but you sure have a lot of class resentment and anti-Californian xenophobia issues to deal with.

Long years of experience. All too many of them drive like idiots. I think it comes with the elitist mindset. Huge f**kin' pickups with lots of crome are a good bet, too.

And the xenophobia is justified. I've lived in this state for more than 50 years now, and before masses of Californians decided to move up here, we had a pretty decent place. Reasonable and rational. Then the former Californians, along with native nutbags and idiots, screwed up the whole tax base and proceeded to taint it with Californification.

You can spot posts from those without AC a mile away.

I think Oregon's beer and wine lobby must be the reason why its so inconvenient to buy a bottle of booze.

No, just the OLCC proving they are in control.

[i]I think Oregon's beer and wine lobby must be the reason why its so inconvenient to buy a bottle of booze.[/i]

It would actually be in their best interest if OLCC and all their regulations were abolished. The tax savings from not having to pay for one more government agency and the convenience we'd gain would be in our best interest too.