It looks as though the condo bunker that was set to crowd out all light and air on the corner of NE 15th and Hancock here in Portland has been scrapped. Rather than chop one story off the building, which would have made it palatable to the city, the developer has thrown in the towel. The property's now listed for sale.
Given the state of the economy, the Irvington land use crew who fought this monstrosity tooth and nail deserve a thank-you card from the real estate sharpie with the dollar signs in his eyes, and from his partners. Now if only someone can come forward and spruce up what's there, leaving the grass, the trees, and the sky.
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There won't be any more building any time soon. The latest numbers of PDX real estate show that inventory is now at 19 months - an extremely high number:
As you clearly pointed out before, it's all about the underlying zoning (9-20 unit multi-family), not the present land usage. And this hasn't changed. Local real estate will stay down a while - a year, two years, pick a number - but the idiotic zoning lasts forever. Unless changed, a future owner could still apply for the same out-of-proportion monstrosity on this corner as before.
As you clearly pointed out before, it's all about the underlying zoning (9-20 unit multi-family)
no, not really. zoning's a tool that developers and the powerful modify and "interpret" all the time, often with government help.
in other words, some zoning's better than none, but in the end, it rarely stops monied interests determined to succeed. in other other words--zoning's a speed bump, not a roadblock, to the powerful and connected.
"Now if only someone can come forward and spruce up what's there, leaving the grass, the trees, and the sky" ... framing a few 3-meter-blade wind generators, parceling electricity around the micro-grid neighborhood.
Neighborhood overlay zones and rules are the only things that seem able to save neighborhoods from these monstrosities that are not of the style or size of the rest of the area. If the location happens to be just outside an overlay area, anything goes.
I wish that it were not possible for developers to exchange or buy the FAR rights of other areas or their environmental points.
Each project should be judged on its neighborhood placement alone. And any goodies given for being near a bus line or rules that say that developers need not provide adequate parking if that is the case should also be struck down. Parking, traffic pattern and appropriate size and design of the structure should always be taken into consideration. As it is, everything is weighted on the side of the developer and if the building comes in within the height allowances for the site (or can trade for greater height or ask for a variance . . . which is nearly always granted) there is little the neighbors can do.
Ecohuman: I was speaking only of the inability of the present zoning to place any further restrictions on what's already allowed, not the abuse that goes on behind closed doors and without public involvement to upzone a parcel. Try to do the former, and you'll hear the word "takings" uttered so fast that your head will spin. When the latter happens, they're strangely silent - after all, who wants to step forward and be required to compensate the public for the loss of neighborhood liveability?
Why are their property taxes so low? This is rental property, correct?
I have a 1,900 square foot house in SW Portland (purchased in 1995, brand new) and my taxes are nearly 25% higher than what they're paying at 1510 Hancock for three times the square footage (5,880 square feet).
Why didn't the taxes reset when the developer bought it?
Announced recently that some dimwit is intent upon building a four-story structure with 23 apartments and ground-floor retail at 38th & Division. NO PARKING.
Not only will they create demand for automotive parking in the peak realm of 70 cars daily, they'll actually destroy the existing off-street parking to move the current main house around on the lot and 'save' it.
Word on the street is that there is no city barrier to proceeding, other than getting a variance for a street-side courtyard.
I'm just ticked that in a city which pushes the acceptance of higher density living does absolutely nothing to alleviate the already dysfunctional lack of recreational and open space in the neighborhood. In a neighborhood like Richmond, there should be a moratorium on building additional living units in the neighborhood without providing more and improved park space. I think they should bring the per household park space in the neighborhood should match that of those in the southwest part of the city...s**t, almost ANY other part of the city.
I'm just ticked that in a city which pushes the acceptance of higher density living does absolutely nothing to alleviate the already dysfunctional lack of recreational and open space in the neighborhood. JK: The simplistic goal is high density. Nothing else matters.
Gridlocked streets are OK.
Unaffordable housing is OK.
Higher pollution is OK.
No parks are OK (we even sell them off)
No green spaces is OK.
Destroying neighborhood character is OK
Only higher density matters - it is the only goal. (high density is defined as more livable.)
This is what Metro did not tell us when we signed on to build UP not out.
JK, when did "we" sign on to build UP?
I don't recall any vote.
Sure, Metro might have sent out some glossy colored mailers asking how high you want to go in one particular neighborhood, and not even asking the question, "you want it to stay like it is?". Then about 159 people responded, maybe.
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There won't be any more building any time soon. The latest numbers of PDX real estate show that inventory is now at 19 months - an extremely high number:
http://www.rmlsweb.com/temp%2Fdocuments%2F1500-1699%20Market%20Action%20and%20Statistics%20Menu%2F1501%20Market%20Action%20-%20January%202009%2FPortland%20Market%20Action.pdf
People are just starting to realize how bad things are going to get.
Posted by Reggie Theus | February 17, 2009 11:48 AM
Unfortunately, Tanzamook is about three stories tall in all its boxy glory:
http://globalgreenie.org/?p=27
It will be hard to stifle my laughs when they don't sell. And they won't.
Posted by Alan Cordle | February 17, 2009 11:51 AM
As you clearly pointed out before, it's all about the underlying zoning (9-20 unit multi-family), not the present land usage. And this hasn't changed. Local real estate will stay down a while - a year, two years, pick a number - but the idiotic zoning lasts forever. Unless changed, a future owner could still apply for the same out-of-proportion monstrosity on this corner as before.
Posted by john rettig | February 17, 2009 2:00 PM
As you clearly pointed out before, it's all about the underlying zoning (9-20 unit multi-family)
no, not really. zoning's a tool that developers and the powerful modify and "interpret" all the time, often with government help.
in other words, some zoning's better than none, but in the end, it rarely stops monied interests determined to succeed. in other other words--zoning's a speed bump, not a roadblock, to the powerful and connected.
take South Waterfront, for example.
Posted by ecohuman | February 17, 2009 2:12 PM
"Now if only someone can come forward and spruce up what's there, leaving the grass, the trees, and the sky" ... framing a few 3-meter-blade wind generators, parceling electricity around the micro-grid neighborhood.
Posted by Tenskwatawa | February 17, 2009 3:10 PM
Neighborhood overlay zones and rules are the only things that seem able to save neighborhoods from these monstrosities that are not of the style or size of the rest of the area. If the location happens to be just outside an overlay area, anything goes.
I wish that it were not possible for developers to exchange or buy the FAR rights of other areas or their environmental points.
Each project should be judged on its neighborhood placement alone. And any goodies given for being near a bus line or rules that say that developers need not provide adequate parking if that is the case should also be struck down. Parking, traffic pattern and appropriate size and design of the structure should always be taken into consideration. As it is, everything is weighted on the side of the developer and if the building comes in within the height allowances for the site (or can trade for greater height or ask for a variance . . . which is nearly always granted) there is little the neighbors can do.
Posted by NW Portlander | February 17, 2009 3:12 PM
Ecohuman: I was speaking only of the inability of the present zoning to place any further restrictions on what's already allowed, not the abuse that goes on behind closed doors and without public involvement to upzone a parcel. Try to do the former, and you'll hear the word "takings" uttered so fast that your head will spin. When the latter happens, they're strangely silent - after all, who wants to step forward and be required to compensate the public for the loss of neighborhood liveability?
Posted by john rettig | February 17, 2009 3:34 PM
Why are their property taxes so low? This is rental property, correct?
I have a 1,900 square foot house in SW Portland (purchased in 1995, brand new) and my taxes are nearly 25% higher than what they're paying at 1510 Hancock for three times the square footage (5,880 square feet).
Why didn't the taxes reset when the developer bought it?
Posted by Jennifer W. | February 17, 2009 6:10 PM
Why didn't the taxes reset when the developer bought it?
Measure 5.
Posted by PG | February 17, 2009 6:45 PM
Don't get too het up.
Announced recently that some dimwit is intent upon building a four-story structure with 23 apartments and ground-floor retail at 38th & Division. NO PARKING.
Not only will they create demand for automotive parking in the peak realm of 70 cars daily, they'll actually destroy the existing off-street parking to move the current main house around on the lot and 'save' it.
Word on the street is that there is no city barrier to proceeding, other than getting a variance for a street-side courtyard.
I'm just ticked that in a city which pushes the acceptance of higher density living does absolutely nothing to alleviate the already dysfunctional lack of recreational and open space in the neighborhood. In a neighborhood like Richmond, there should be a moratorium on building additional living units in the neighborhood without providing more and improved park space. I think they should bring the per household park space in the neighborhood should match that of those in the southwest part of the city...s**t, almost ANY other part of the city.
Posted by godfry | February 17, 2009 11:15 PM
I'm just ticked that in a city which pushes the acceptance of higher density living does absolutely nothing to alleviate the already dysfunctional lack of recreational and open space in the neighborhood.
JK: The simplistic goal is high density. Nothing else matters.
Gridlocked streets are OK.
Unaffordable housing is OK.
Higher pollution is OK.
No parks are OK (we even sell them off)
No green spaces is OK.
Destroying neighborhood character is OK
Only higher density matters - it is the only goal. (high density is defined as more livable.)
This is what Metro did not tell us when we signed on to build UP not out.
Thanks
JK
Posted by jim karlockj | February 18, 2009 5:23 AM
JK, when did "we" sign on to build UP?
I don't recall any vote.
Sure, Metro might have sent out some glossy colored mailers asking how high you want to go in one particular neighborhood, and not even asking the question, "you want it to stay like it is?". Then about 159 people responded, maybe.
Posted by lw | February 18, 2009 10:42 AM
I think you meant 'the developer has thrown in the trowel.'
Posted by Stanton | February 18, 2009 7:10 PM