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Tuesday, December 2, 2008

Get up, stand up

Which Constitutional amendment covers this?

Comments (21)

Aux barricades!

Welcome to the world of the oppressed. I can't use the bank's drive-up window on a bicycle either -- have to wait until the lobby opens (a later time) and go inside. A clear equal protection violation, especially when chicken strips are at issue.

9th Amendment - the right to chicken strips is not an enumerated right. However, based on origional meaning, this right might not include the right to ranch dressing.

It's a chicken strip tort. A new menu item.

Life, liberty and the purfuit of cholesteral.

Well, there's a couple things at work I guess.

1. Jack in the Box drive through is private property.
2. I've seen plenty of signs on drive-through windows that say they won't serve people on bicycles and skateboards.
3. If that person is no longer welcome on the private property, and is told as much, yet they don't leave, they are trespassing.

Not a hard one to suss out.

Perhaps JITB has a contract with government to provide this important necessity.

Following the article, comments said it is surprising that the cop demeaned himself so much to actually arrest and book this fairly harmless bike rider. (Comments here sustain the judgment the drive-up biker is no harm, no foul.)

More and more law-enforcers are realizing in life's situations their own personal judgment is better to act on, than being made a subhuman slave or political tool following orders of depravity from criminal tyrants. such as Bush and the rightwing wacko's. LIARS ordering our troopers to invade Iraq and murder innocents and steal oil. ... the sort of thing when, if you go and Bush gives you a commendation medal for going, you are ashamed of it and hate yourself for following LIARS orders instead of using your better judgment.

Hey, just saying, policemen and women are neighbors living in the community and publicly employed; and are NOT the mercenary enforcers paid by unearned-income capitalists such as Jack-in-the-Box franchisees. That is, not without being embarrassed to be a cop, and people being prejudiced against them as LIARS puppets, because they don't use better common sense.

How could this crucial bicycle rights case have taken place in Bremerton and not here?!

Try harder, Portland bike nazis!

How do we know he isn't a Portland transplant? Sounds like he was born and bred here.

"Following the article, comments said it is surprising that the cop demeaned himself so much to actually arrest and book this fairly harmless bike rider"


The argument should be with the restaurant, and not with the cop. If a patron is told to leave by a property owner and refuses, then the police should enforce the law. The cop likely hated the idea of arrest as much as anyone. Taking a stand means accepting the consequences. At least the guy likely got a free meal later that evening.

Are they admitting that they attract a class of customers -- in cars -- that have the munchies, who put the bikers and walkers at risk?

It looks like a target rich environment for law breakers, more so even than for people that buy -- or is that steal -- spray paint to make public art.

Just make it crime to not immediately call the cops when some over-jovial inebriated folks show up for their late night snack, regardless of whether they show up with a car or not. (Require recording of the customers placing their order, and their slurring?)

The public interest is keeping the streets safe for all, even for jaywalkers.


To make it clearer, let me try an analogy. I am standing there waiting for the bus and it is raining. I decide to go sit on Tensky's front porch while I wait for the bus, and to get out of the rain.

Now, even though Tensky is a kind hearted soul, Tensky's landlord is not. He told Tensky to never ever let anyone sit on the front porch, because his insurance rates would go through the roof. To compound things I am wearing a Bush/Palin pin badge, and listing to the Lars Larson show on a large boom box.

Tensky then asks me to kindly leave his porch, but I tell him it is raining and I remain seated on his microfiber porch recliner. Tensky then orders me to go, but I tell him no, I'm taking a stand. Wanting to avoid any violence, Tensky dials up the popo.

The large and intimidating lady cop arrives and tells me I have to get off the porch, or I could go to jail. I tell her no, I am taking a stand. She begs me to be on my way. She explains that she was on her way to Dunkin Donuts, and the last thing she wants to do is drive me downtown and then write a 2 hour report about all of this. I refuse and go to jail.

Now Tensky, who is the bad neighbor in all of this?

Only in America.

Bicycles create a hazardous situation for JTIB patrons heading in for an order at the drive-thru? Gosh, it's so scary out on the roads where bicyclists could be anywhere. If you can't control your vehicle to keep a bike-riding dufus safe at a JTIB then hang up the keys.

The same thing happened to me one night after a blazers game--regular restaurant closed--drive up window open---me on bike---Taco Bell--no service. I chickend out on the civil disobedience thing---I think I argued with them until they said they'd call the cops....but I vowed to never eat at a Taco Bell again and I haven't.


Jack the in Box?

Just to imbibe burgers?

Gimme a hint, please.

Sorry Mister Tee, the dyslexia flared up. I also blame my foul language on Tourette syndrome or alternately mom's drinking Schlitz while I was in utero.
However, Jack The In Box or JTIB: just tasted indigestible bull@#$T; just testing intestinal breakdown; jonesing to invile bowels

Spud, the problem isnt that people cant control their cars, its that JITB is the one with the deep pockets. IF something does happen, they dont want to get sued for something they cannot control.

I'm with MachineSaidFred, except... geez, that's a stupid policy. I've been wondering for years what the basis of that policy could be, and I haven't heard or thought of anything that seems remotely reasonable.

"The deputy, responding to a call from an employee, found the bicyclist by the window speaking into a hand-held video camera. When the deputy questioned him, the suspect said, apparently speaking into the camera, "The police are here."

Where on earth will the "don't taze me bro" attention whore strike next?

"Tensky, To make it clearer, let me try an analogy."

Clearer? Analogy? That's a non sequitor of false predicate, like loser LIARS lapses in incessantly.

Try? Let's not, and instead just use the veritable actuality of the case each time.

Maryland Police Play Spies--And Look Like Fools, by Marc Fisher, Washington Post, December 2, 2008.

For years, the Maryland State Police, eager to play anti-terrorist surveillance agents just like the Big Boys on TV, spied on suburban peace activists who may have been loud, but never posed the slightest threat to the nation or the state.

So what did Maryland taxpayers get for their investment in the state police's investigations of 53 people, including lawyers, a candidate for Congress, a leader of an effort to curb military recruiting in Montgomery County high schools, and a sportswriter?

Have a look for yourself--it's pitiful.

Here's Pat Elder's file, mostly blacked out by police censors who perhaps have a bit more to hide than they've admitted to ...

The state police's Homeland Security and Intelligence Division--just think about how much you're paying for those words--did pick up one new fact: Elder, 53, has no criminal record. Whew.

Better that ... tax dollars had been used for remedial writing courses for the investigators. Here's how one surveillance report describes Medea Benjamin, a founder of the protest group Codepink, a women's antiwar organization based in California:

"San Francisco activist that travels giving speaches [sic] on her brand of in your face civil disobedience."

Newsday called Benjamin "one of America's most committed -- and most effective -- fighters for human rights." The Maryland State Police listed her under "Primary Crime: Terrorism."

The state police produced about 20 pages of investigation on Nadine Bloch, a Takoma Park animal rights activist who also makes giant puppets for anti-war demonstrations. The state police were interested in the 47-year-old activist because of suspicion of "Terrorism-Animal Rights."

"She is involved in puppet making and allows anarchists to utilize her property for meetings," the report says. It's not clear from the investigative report how much state effort went into amassing the evidence for that shocking conclusion. But if you'd like to do your own investigation at home, here's where Bloch hides the photographic evidence of her puppet making. It's [on] her personal web site, cleverly tucked away from public view with the code name

Stop paying the salaries of public employees who are rightwing wacko's. Treason solved.

Jack in the Box may permanently drive away as many occasional drive-up customers as it wants. Serving slop don't take cops.


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