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Sunday, November 16, 2008

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Beautiful sentiment, but unobtainable.

Too many folks lack the will and/or aware of suffering to engage compassionately. Add to this those people who we perceive as compassionate but who act in that way solely for their own (perceived) benefit (i.e. the benefactor whose modification is their own place in the afterlife.)

At its core, this require true altruism. Skipping all the Ayn Rand I read in high school, there are still inherent contradictions and problems in this model. First, there are definitional/dogma related issues as to what is the greater good or what others would like to be done to them. A strained example to demonstration this at its conclusion is the idea that some 'true believer' would want to be forced to be educated in their (true) faith if they believed in heresy. As a result, the compulsory re-education and lack of religious tolerance becomes circular within this model.

Second, while this compassion stuff is supposedly based on tolerance, it is, at its core, also based on intolerance. Philosophically, it intolerant of systems in which choice is not allowed. It is intolerant of those who do not act altruistically. As a result, it is intolerance to certain aspects of personal freedom as it constrains the range of choices could be made by the individual. This may not be globally bad, but is a contradiction within its tenets.

Of course, this issue is moot if and only if the philosophy is voluntary. However, in that case, the measure is merely a reaffirmation of what people already do. People are rarely persuaded to act against their self-interest except by extraordinary reasons which an advertising campaign simply cannot provide.

To that extent, this is merely a pat-on-the-back for those already acting under that Golden Rule.

If only we as humans could.
We(the collective we of the world do not.
But we should all try.
Just one small unconditional compassionate act once a week by each of us reading this blog would be a start.
Let's all try.

All we need to do now is overcome greed.

Most people view thinking as an inconvenience. If they really thought about our extremely temporary stay on this planet, they'd chill out and concentrate on making good friends and good memories. Instead they plot and scheme like they're going to live to be a thousand and it's all an offshoot of not really thinking about the situation we're in.
Bill Maher made a good point in his movie about religion: You can't say "I believe this part of my faith but not that mean part." If you support it, you support it. We need to think past organized religion and that's not easy. Thinking is like running a marathon. It's always easier to stop. Believing in something feels good so the problem is pretending it's true, and that often requires shutting off parts of your brain. That's why so many religious people actually appear to be in some version of a trance. It's like a part of them has checked out and gone zombie. But oh, are they happy.
It's scary to get outside our cultural indoctrination, but until we do, we are on a one way road to somebody's version of the End Times.

To do or be any of those positive things one does not need religion. Be kind, generous and loving.

Beautiful sentiment, but unobtainable.

tolerance and compassion are not "sentiments", my friend.

and clearly, in so many instances, they *are* attainable.

Skipping all the Ayn Rand I read in high school, there are still inherent contradictions and problems in this model.

have you tried to live your life for any length of time according to this "model"?

while this compassion stuff is supposedly based on tolerance, it is, at its core, also based on intolerance.

compassion is not based on tolerance. compassion is based on empathy. and tolerance--which actually means "to live with"--is not based on intolerance. that's nonsensical.

People are rarely persuaded to act against their self-interest except by extraordinary reasons which an advertising campaign simply cannot provide.

you've missed the point of the video, my man: acting with compassion and tolerance *is* in your own best self-interest.

Many people act beyond their self interest. Greed while an inherent aspect of human nature is not an inevitable result. Understanding this natural propensity and consciously defying it is a gift we all possess. Mutual respect, the golden rule, means you are no better or worse than anyone else, regardless of relative accomplishment. Many of us feel the sense of satisfaction which derives from giving to one in need without expecting anything in return. Try it, you will know what I mean. If the majority of society evolves a true sense of social consciousness, then the impact of humanity might extend beyond a small blip with devastating impact in the realm of geologic time. If we fail to overcome our natural tendencies toward self aggrandizement, we will have failed to evolve and become extinct as a species.

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