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Thanks Jack, very helpful.
Posted by genop | October 18, 2008 7:28 PM
Your intuition on Measure 63 is sound, but if you have ever had work "inspected" by a city of Portland inspector you might wonder exactly what value they are adding. For example, we had some light remodeling done - some kitchen and bathroom stuff - so some plumbing and some electrical, plus some new natural gas lines for a gas stove top, some new venting. The inspection consisted of turning on any new faucet, and flushing any new toilet; the electrical inspection consisted of turning on the new appliance. That's it. The proposed measure is probably a bit blunt, but some changes are probably called for, and could be implemented at the city/administrative level. What about waiving certain types of inspections in the event licensed contractors are performing the work?
Posted by Kurt Runzler | October 19, 2008 8:27 AM
Even licensed contractors will be tempted to cut corners without inspections. Too risky.
Posted by Jack Bog | October 20, 2008 5:43 AM
Years ago as renters, inspectors were all that stood between us and a hazardous electrical system. The landlord didn't think there was a problem. The first inspector advised us to invest in additional smoke alarms and told him to get the work done immediately. The second one caught several problems in the work performed by a licensed shop, including putting non-standard screws on a box that needed inspection to keep anyone from looking inside.
Posted by Sue Hagmeier | October 20, 2008 8:05 AM
15 or 20 would be better but I'm for it. Heights and setbacks aren't affected in this law - the guy next door isn't all of a sudden going to add a story and build out to the property line, unless he legally can anyway.
I'd assert a great likelihood that what individuals are going to do with this isn't going to add much to the already tremendous effect that perfectly legal and permitted building and remodeling can have on the adjacent property owners. And as things stand the kind of stuff that requires a permit can be much too minor - porches, stairs, etc.
Forgetting for a moment the "neighboring property values" hangup, it might also be expected that this bill would allow handy people who are capable of doing a lot of their own work access to home ownership in the form of fixers they otherwise might not be able to afford. (And which they're legally required to insure anyway) Me, I've always lived in wrecks, and I'd love to buy one cheap and make it livable for myself without having to do every little meticulous thing required for new construction (location of outlets, stair dimensions, etc)
Posted by PG | October 20, 2008 1:14 PM
"Sorry, righties."
Sorry Jack.....right or left has nothing to do with this one...
I lean right but this is a bad idea. Just what we need is everyone rewiring their house...and selling to unsuspecting buyers...
Since I hope to be in that category someday, I'll vote no on this one.....
Posted by thaddeus | October 20, 2008 3:18 PM
Our brand new house had natural gas leaking under the stove top, and slow water leaks from both shower heads.
There was another water leak under the dishwasher, and within the first five years we had two leaks from copper pipes (in the wall). They also
I watched them build the house next door, and most of the subs were not licensed or bonded. Very crappy craftsmanship all around: it's on the market for over $600k.
Posted by Mister Tee | October 20, 2008 6:21 PM