Do you think it is just a coinky-dink that Gallup releases a poll showing Obama's lead had narrowed to only 2 pts, and right away the Dow jumps up almost 500 pts?
Hey Butch,
No coincidence at all. The jump in the Dow resulted from the new Pew Research poll out today: "Barack Obama is now narrowly leading John McCain among voters in the 10 battleground states that voted for George W. Bush in 2004.
"The poll finds that among those voters, Obama is now up 47%-43%, which is within the margin of error, but still noteworthy. In the past few weeks Obama has steadily gained, and now passed, McCain among these voters.
"A week ago, according to the poll's internals, McCain led among these red battleground state voters by seven points, 49%-42%."
Wall Street knows what history clearly demonstrates: if you want to live like a Republican, you have to vote Democratic.
You mean that Pew poll whose sample was 39% Democrats, 31% independents, and 26% Republicans? Yeah....I'm sure that is what the turnout will look like next Tuesday......
Do you think it is just a coinky-dink that Gallup releases a poll showing Obama's lead had narrowed to only 2 pts, and right away the Dow jumps up almost 500 pts?
Hey Butch,
do you think it is just a coinky-dink that Gallup released a poll showing consumer confidence plunged to its lowest levels in 41 years today?
Not at all. Obama is leading in most polls, after all.
i'd be grateful if you'd explain the provable correlation between who's "ahead" in a political race and a poll about consumer confidence about the state of the economy (confidence which has been steadily declining in polls for 5 1/2 years.)
The market loves the Democrats. It loved Clinton, and it will love Obama.
i don't know. the state of things right now seems unlikely to respond to that simple stimulation. the problems look too systemic.
I wonder what butch would say if it were a Democratic president strong-arming the biggest banks in the land into partial nationalization...
Anyway, there hasn't been a significant difference between Dems and the GOP in policy toward Wall St. since Bill Clinton put Robert Rubin in charge of all things economic in his White House.
Obama's choice of Jason Furman to head an economic policy team loaded with Chicago School free marketeers, and his statement that "I am a pro-growth, free-market guy. I love the market," ought to put to rest any uninformed assertions that Wall Street has anything to fear from an Obama presidency.
(Those of us who see the need for a significant revisiting of New Deal-style policies are the ones who should be concerned about an Obama presidency. Initial signs indicate he will be shy about a definitive departure from neoliberal, markets-first economic policy. Of course, he's far more likely to get it right than McTaxcuts, but it will take considerable pressure from progressives. You can take the man out of Chicago, but can you take the Chicago School out of the man?)
Butch,
Any bounce in the stock market this week could be natural exuberance from knowing we're about to pick George W.'s replacement. This may be a tragedy for you - the way you loved him so much these last few years - but many of us thought George Bush was a psychotic idiot and we're thrilled that Election Day is finally approaching.
I would still hesitate to believe anything we see in the next few days. After all, the Bush administration's still in charge so I'm sure there's much treachery to come. Beware of false flag operations: If there's an attack on America, or if bin Ladin suddenly puts out a heavy metal album, don't buy into it, Butch. Part of quitting George W. will be the realization that questioning the government is what Americans are supposed to do.
October 28 Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg News poll. Hey, Butch -- this one is skewed too? I'm sure you will come up with some rationale for disputing it!
"Obama holds a 50-43-percentage point advantage over Republican John McCain in Florida, the poll finds -- in a state that has only sparingly voted for Democrats since the 1960s, and then only Southern Democrats.
"And Obama holds a 49-40-point advantage over McCain in Ohio among likely voters surveyed -- in a state that has voted the way the nation has voted most times and always been part of a Republican's winning formula."
It's OK Butch.
John McCain does not agree with the polls either. It is probably good you guys are all trying hard to stay "on message" these last few days.
It might be instructive -- like father, like son -- as we recall during DaddyB's lameduckery after Clinton beat him but before the inauguration, against all advice of Generals Pentagonal, Prezzy Poopypants invaded Somalia, unprovoked.
That's the one where Dan Rather was standing on the sand, in full reportorial splendor, with cameraman, greeting the Marines wading up wet from the landing craft to the beach ... remember? Then later, some 'warlords' (as if Prezzy Poopypants was pacifist - NOT), dragged Marines bodies through the dusty Mogadishu 'streets' ... again, made-for-TV in front of the cameras. All hell let loose for incoming Clinton by Popster Bushbutcher after he was election LOSER.
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Comments (18)
Sarah better enjoy those expensive high heels now, 'cause she'll be walking back to Alaska on snowshoes.
Posted by Bill McDonald | October 28, 2008 11:04 AM
Her dress is made from moss gathered in Alaskan forests.
Posted by Bark Munster | October 28, 2008 11:34 AM
Hey Bill,
Do you think it is just a coinky-dink that Gallup releases a poll showing Obama's lead had narrowed to only 2 pts, and right away the Dow jumps up almost 500 pts?
Posted by butch | October 28, 2008 12:20 PM
Hey Butch,
No coincidence at all. The jump in the Dow resulted from the new Pew Research poll out today: "Barack Obama is now narrowly leading John McCain among voters in the 10 battleground states that voted for George W. Bush in 2004.
"The poll finds that among those voters, Obama is now up 47%-43%, which is within the margin of error, but still noteworthy. In the past few weeks Obama has steadily gained, and now passed, McCain among these voters.
"A week ago, according to the poll's internals, McCain led among these red battleground state voters by seven points, 49%-42%."
Wall Street knows what history clearly demonstrates: if you want to live like a Republican, you have to vote Democratic.
Posted by Charlie | October 28, 2008 12:27 PM
You mean that Pew poll whose sample was 39% Democrats, 31% independents, and 26% Republicans? Yeah....I'm sure that is what the turnout will look like next Tuesday......
Posted by butch | October 28, 2008 12:36 PM
Hey Bill,
Do you think it is just a coinky-dink that Gallup releases a poll showing Obama's lead had narrowed to only 2 pts, and right away the Dow jumps up almost 500 pts?
Hey Butch,
do you think it is just a coinky-dink that Gallup released a poll showing consumer confidence plunged to its lowest levels in 41 years today?
Posted by still another reader | October 28, 2008 12:45 PM
"do you think it is just a coinky-dink that Gallup released a poll showing consumer confidence plunged to its lowest levels in 41 years today?"
Not at all. Obama is leading in most polls, after all.
Posted by butch | October 28, 2008 12:53 PM
The market loves the Democrats. It loved Clinton, and it will love Obama.
Posted by Jack Bog | October 28, 2008 12:58 PM
Not at all. Obama is leading in most polls, after all.
i'd be grateful if you'd explain the provable correlation between who's "ahead" in a political race and a poll about consumer confidence about the state of the economy (confidence which has been steadily declining in polls for 5 1/2 years.)
The market loves the Democrats. It loved Clinton, and it will love Obama.
i don't know. the state of things right now seems unlikely to respond to that simple stimulation. the problems look too systemic.
Posted by still another reader | October 28, 2008 1:24 PM
And just in time for the election, gas prices have magically dropped! As you were folks...
Posted by TKrueg | October 28, 2008 1:32 PM
I wonder what butch would say if it were a Democratic president strong-arming the biggest banks in the land into partial nationalization...
Anyway, there hasn't been a significant difference between Dems and the GOP in policy toward Wall St. since Bill Clinton put Robert Rubin in charge of all things economic in his White House.
Obama's choice of Jason Furman to head an economic policy team loaded with Chicago School free marketeers, and his statement that "I am a pro-growth, free-market guy. I love the market," ought to put to rest any uninformed assertions that Wall Street has anything to fear from an Obama presidency.
(Those of us who see the need for a significant revisiting of New Deal-style policies are the ones who should be concerned about an Obama presidency. Initial signs indicate he will be shy about a definitive departure from neoliberal, markets-first economic policy. Of course, he's far more likely to get it right than McTaxcuts, but it will take considerable pressure from progressives. You can take the man out of Chicago, but can you take the Chicago School out of the man?)
Posted by Steve R. | October 28, 2008 1:41 PM
Butch,
Any bounce in the stock market this week could be natural exuberance from knowing we're about to pick George W.'s replacement. This may be a tragedy for you - the way you loved him so much these last few years - but many of us thought George Bush was a psychotic idiot and we're thrilled that Election Day is finally approaching.
I would still hesitate to believe anything we see in the next few days. After all, the Bush administration's still in charge so I'm sure there's much treachery to come. Beware of false flag operations: If there's an attack on America, or if bin Ladin suddenly puts out a heavy metal album, don't buy into it, Butch. Part of quitting George W. will be the realization that questioning the government is what Americans are supposed to do.
Posted by Bill McDonald | October 28, 2008 2:59 PM
October 28 Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg News poll. Hey, Butch -- this one is skewed too? I'm sure you will come up with some rationale for disputing it!
"Obama holds a 50-43-percentage point advantage over Republican John McCain in Florida, the poll finds -- in a state that has only sparingly voted for Democrats since the 1960s, and then only Southern Democrats.
"And Obama holds a 49-40-point advantage over McCain in Ohio among likely voters surveyed -- in a state that has voted the way the nation has voted most times and always been part of a Republican's winning formula."
Posted by Charlie | October 28, 2008 3:20 PM
It's OK Butch.
John McCain does not agree with the polls either. It is probably good you guys are all trying hard to stay "on message" these last few days.
Posted by portland native | October 28, 2008 4:11 PM
All I can say is - NICE photoshop job!
Posted by nancy | October 28, 2008 5:25 PM
I didn't do that -- and I wish I knew who did, because they deserve credit.
Posted by Jack Bog | October 28, 2008 5:30 PM
Me too, I like the photo. work.
It might be instructive -- like father, like son -- as we recall during DaddyB's lameduckery after Clinton beat him but before the inauguration, against all advice of Generals Pentagonal, Prezzy Poopypants invaded Somalia, unprovoked.
That's the one where Dan Rather was standing on the sand, in full reportorial splendor, with cameraman, greeting the Marines wading up wet from the landing craft to the beach ... remember? Then later, some 'warlords' (as if Prezzy Poopypants was pacifist - NOT), dragged Marines bodies through the dusty Mogadishu 'streets' ... again, made-for-TV in front of the cameras. All hell let loose for incoming Clinton by Popster Bushbutcher after he was election LOSER.
Posted by Tenskwatawa | October 28, 2008 10:22 PM
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