South African Townships perhaps?
Now that's scary!

Is that the explanation of why Clackamas and Washington counties have a HIGHER per capita and household income than Multnomah County?

http://tinyurl.com/57ml49

The funny thing is that the same people complain about it either way. I'm starting to think that some folks are just whiners. They whine about white flight, they whine about gentrification, they whine about everything in between.

Is that the explanation of why Clackamas and Washington counties have a HIGHER per capita and household income than Multnomah County?

That's old data, dude (2000 and 2003). A lot can have happened in the 8 and 5 years since that data was first collected. That's one of the points in the TNR piece: much of this gentrification/reversion has happened quite recently.

The 2010 Census will tell us if what happened in Chicago happened in Portland and to what degree. And I'm betting the data will show that the increasing numbers of undocumented ag workers in Washington County will have driven the average and median incomes there down.

Clackamas County, with Lake Oswego and the Happy Valley McMansions, might retain its top rank, though . . .

I'd just like to get in here before the obligitory Jim Karlock UGB tirade.

You know it's coming...

=)

That's old data, dude (2000 and 2003). A lot can have happened in the 8 and 5 years since that data was first collected.

I know the data is not current, but it is hard to imagine a 25% difference in median household income has equalized, let alone reversed in that time frame. Of course, the data is for Multnomah County, not specifically Portland; but I suspect those displaced from or can't afford inner city locations probably can afford mid-county, which is within Portland city limits (contrary to some snickerers who seem to think Portland ends at 82nd Avenue).

Oops, make that "data are not current". That one always snags me.

BTW, the number of persons per household in Washington/Clackamas counties is 2.61/2.62, respectively, while Multnomah county is 2.37 (2000 US Census data). It will be interesting to see what those figures are in 2010.

If there is any neighborhood that has had a radical change in demographics it has to be North Portland. The young liberal hip generation call it "NoPo" but with the displacement of Blacks it will soon be called "NoFro".

And this headline in the Trib

Multnomah County suddenly has jail space to spare, with more than 100 vacant beds.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=121808514485350500

City-wide carbon tax, anyone?

"And I'm betting the data will show that the increasing numbers of undocumented ag workers in Washington County will have driven the average and median incomes there down."

If they are "undocumented", they are probably not filling out Census forms.

It's not only just me ... who foresee a [censored] future outcome, in the symptoms list -- things we see happening now. But then, viewing sees farther ahead, when it is standing on top of 50 or 60 years piled up of past going's-on, whatcha might call 'history.'

It's a book/website ...
THE END OF SUBURBIA: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of The American Dream
Since World War II North Americans have invested much of their newfound wealth in suburbia. It has promised a sense of space, affordability, family life and upward mobility.

Suburbia, and all it promises, has become the American Dream. But as we enter the 21st century, serious questions are beginning to emerge about the sustainability of this way of life.

It's a movie ...
trailer (on YouTube)

Almost two centuries of taking all the carbon deposits out of Earth, and putting CO2 in the atmostphere so much it shifts the climate recipe -- is a phony baloney advertising gimmick ... it's a big marketing racket, is all.

Now Jim Karlock has to counter-campaign with his own version of a whole 'movie buy,' to erase the fiction of the End of Suburbia movie.

It's not just you, Jack: it's nationwide. I keep noting the number of outrageously expensive condos and apartment buildings that keep going in, from Tampa to San Diego, that hype up the appeal of "being close to work" and emphasizing the gasoline savings. In the meantime, every big project along a rail line or major bicycle route requires the destruction of an existing "run-down but still affordable" apartment complex, and the previous residents have to move further and further out to find something they can afford. It'll only stop when the lower-wage workers can't afford to get to work at all, and I fear for a time when most cities are like San Jose in offering subsidized housing for teachers and fire and police personnel because they have to live within city limits by law.

(As it stands, I passed through the town of Terrell, Texas yesterday, just east of Dallas, and noted the number of signs hyping "Save Gas by Working In Terrell Instead of Driving To Dallas." Great advice, if you can afford the 25% to 50% pay cut on taking one of the few jobs in Terrell that can't be filled by high school students or livestock. I suspect that we're going to be seeing a lot of those sorts of signs, especially in far North California, East Oregon, and most of Washington, in order to convince people that we should be glad to accept the lousy pay and worse benefits being offered.)