First, folks are outraged that police response is limited to (1) verbiage and (2) lethal force.
Now, folks are outraged that police want the same nonlethal tools the military have to increase their range of response. Humans have worked to develop more and lethal weapons for thousands of years; we've only been working on "less than lethal" force for, tops, a few decades.
Does an ability to increase the use of force without resorting to lethal options increase the potential for police to use excessive force? Yes. Does it allow police to resolve situations where, without the ability to use less than lethal force, the situation would have warranted lethal force? Yes.
Would this be more effective on crowd dispersal than the current options of tear gas and riot police? I hope so.
And do I think we're shallow when we are only concerned with the technology when it could be used on us, but we're okay with it when its used on citizens of other countries? (yes)
Bringing these things into widespread use for, say, turning back protests against an unpopular president and his perpetual war machine will result in a lot more people carrying lethal weapons to fight back.
I actually prefer that police have to chose between lawful orders and causing me permanent harm and death. It makes them more accountable for their poor decisions.
If what I'm doing is really so incredibly dangerous and harmful, SHOOT ME! If I'm merely annoying, well then, tell me to go away, write me a ticket, arrest me... but don't you dare harm me because I have not initiated force against you or anyone. The ONLY justification for violence is against someone who has initiated force!
The rise of the non-lethal weapon is going to make the choice to shut people up quick, easy, and far too frequent. A few dead college students got people's attention decades ago (no one can deny blood on the ground). The current trend in our military--and consequently, police force--is toward legal means of torture that leave little evidence. This way, reports of torture and harm can be dismissed as the ravings of a crazy radical.
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Comments (12)
Lairs has one of those, he said so when i listened for 4 hours today.
Posted by Tenskwatawa | June 11, 2008 8:41 PM
I saw that tested on a journalist once. It was pretty cool.
It's still not better than the crap cannon, though...
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/06/protesters-fear.html
Posted by Chris McMullen | June 11, 2008 9:41 PM
First, folks are outraged that police response is limited to (1) verbiage and (2) lethal force.
Now, folks are outraged that police want the same nonlethal tools the military have to increase their range of response. Humans have worked to develop more and lethal weapons for thousands of years; we've only been working on "less than lethal" force for, tops, a few decades.
Does an ability to increase the use of force without resorting to lethal options increase the potential for police to use excessive force? Yes. Does it allow police to resolve situations where, without the ability to use less than lethal force, the situation would have warranted lethal force? Yes.
Would this be more effective on crowd dispersal than the current options of tear gas and riot police? I hope so.
And do I think we're shallow when we are only concerned with the technology when it could be used on us, but we're okay with it when its used on citizens of other countries? (yes)
Posted by Chris Coyle | June 11, 2008 10:39 PM
Cool, an anti-hippie ray.
Posted by Joe12pack | June 12, 2008 6:53 AM
I was thinking more charettes and closed-door budget meetings.
Posted by Steve | June 12, 2008 8:23 AM
I hope I can get one mounted on my car so I can scatter those darn hippies when they protest downtown.
Posted by Pdx632 | June 12, 2008 12:38 PM
funny, i thought the "Active Denial System" had been in use by the White House since 2000.
Posted by ecohuman.com | June 12, 2008 2:05 PM
Unfortunately, the "Active Denial System" has been vigorously used by all of my first dates over the past year.
Posted by Larry K | June 12, 2008 2:34 PM
When this thing comes into use, say goodbye to the First Amendment.
Posted by none | June 12, 2008 4:08 PM
Bringing these things into widespread use for, say, turning back protests against an unpopular president and his perpetual war machine will result in a lot more people carrying lethal weapons to fight back.
Posted by none | June 12, 2008 4:16 PM
I actually prefer that police have to chose between lawful orders and causing me permanent harm and death. It makes them more accountable for their poor decisions.
If what I'm doing is really so incredibly dangerous and harmful, SHOOT ME! If I'm merely annoying, well then, tell me to go away, write me a ticket, arrest me... but don't you dare harm me because I have not initiated force against you or anyone. The ONLY justification for violence is against someone who has initiated force!
The rise of the non-lethal weapon is going to make the choice to shut people up quick, easy, and far too frequent. A few dead college students got people's attention decades ago (no one can deny blood on the ground). The current trend in our military--and consequently, police force--is toward legal means of torture that leave little evidence. This way, reports of torture and harm can be dismissed as the ravings of a crazy radical.
Posted by Annie | June 13, 2008 1:36 PM
the PoPiggy's would dearly love to have this
Posted by anti-PoPiggy | June 13, 2008 5:31 PM