The democratic leadership in this country does not have the backbone to seek impeachment against elected officials who perpetrated these illegal and despicable acts under an American flag. It is now time for the International community to address these crimes by seeking indictments and trials for war crimes against top government officials; starting with Bush February 1, 2009

What would Neville Chamberlain say?

This is a hardball response to the killers of 3000 innocent Americans. This is a reponse to those who bragged about beheadding Daniel Pearl and setting up 9/11. Try coming to a NYC Firehouse and telling a firemen about the "war crimes" and see if you can sell it.
The treatment is an acceptible response to barbaric acts, and is OK with me. Maybe you want to let these killers out and move into your neighborhood. Let these animals know that the U.S. is going to do something more than having a Secretary of State moan and groan at the UN with no results.

Torture is a word made up of letters like any other word. And you could make those same letters spell the word urotter. And what is that? I mean, it would have to be some sort of large, powerful, savage and extinct bovine Sumerian otter. It doesn't even exist, and here liberals want to make it illegal. Typical.

Let these animals know

Don't become one.

It doesnt matter what we do. Some people think covering their heads and playing loud music is "torture" too.
We could send them to bed without dinner or give them a "time out", and they would still bitch.

Some people think covering their heads and playing loud music is "torture" too.

That would be the "people" who wrote the UN Convention Against Torture which the US is a signatory to, in which torture is defined as "any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession."

You can certainly inflict severe physical pain by playing music loud enough.

Torture is un-American.

"Land of the free and home of the brave" aren't just empty words. Torture is a cowardly act that has no place in my country.

If you have trouble with that, you're free to move to some other country that thinks torture is just fine.

Every country has knuckle dragger's and the US is one of them...and some even post here.

Question...now that we have to give Guantanamo prisoners lawyers & trials. This will undoubtedly be paid for by taxpayers. So by definition, are we all "sponsors of terrorism?"

...are we all "sponsors of terrorism?"

No, it's called "justice". And I hope that they receive it.

."..are we all "sponsors of terrorism?"

Our tax dollars pay for the unprovoked, unilateral military attacks we've undertaken, as well as for the inhumane and degrading treatment of defenseless prisoners in our custody and under our control. If that's not supporting terrorism, I'm sure I don't know what is.

we can stop killing and torture, if we just do some killing and torture.

then, if they kill or torture us again, we'll kill or torture them to show that we will not stand for being killed or tortured.

then, and only then, will we be free from a world of killing and torture. and if terrorists think they can kill us more, think again. we will double-kill them. if they torture us, we will extra-torture them.

then, by god, we'll have peace. and if anybody attacks us, we'll kill them until they're peaceful. because we, as you know, are a peaceful people.

with the largest military budget in the world and the most nuclear weapons. and by the way, if any other countries want nuclear weapons, they can't have them. unless they buy the tech form us. if they don't, then they'rea terrorist state and we will attack them pre-emptively until they're peaceful.

No, it's called "justice". And I hope that they receive it.

I hope they have a plan for what to do with them once their trial is over. If they are found guilty, they will go to prison. (hopefully not on US soil though, as that will open another can of worms), but if they are found not guilty...then what? Are they getting citizenship? Will they get to sue? Or will they just push them out the courthouse door in Somewhere, USA and hope they dont do bad things while here? Most of their home countries dont want them back.

I find it hard to justify any type of torture. I try to examine myself in the worst of circumstances, wondering if it would be ever be OK with me under any circumstnaces. What if a criminal knew that a family member of mine was about to be brutally murdered? Would it be ok with me to do whatever was necessary to find out when and how, in order to stop it?

Probably.............

Gibby

John Rettig, plagiarism is very lame.

"No, it's called "justice". And I hope that they receive it."

That's an exact quote fromأسامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن also known as Usama Bin Laden.

"but if they are found not guilty...then what?"

Are you naive or what?

They will be shipped off to one of our lackeys...*cough*...allies...to be brutally tortured and/or killed.

They will be shipped off to one of our lackeys...*cough*...allies...to be brutally tortured and/or killed.

Well not if Mr. Obama is elected president, right? I thought he was against that.

I really doubt any of them will see a courtroom before January.

"This is a hardball response to the killers of 3000 innocent Americans."

All of those people in Gitmo for the last six years were involved in 9/11? Why not try, convict and punish them, like the 1993 WTC bombing perpetrators?

Oh yeah, because they have been tortured, so nothing they say is reliable, we'll never know whether they were involved or not with any certainty.

I give you twelve seconds of water torture before YOU confess to involvement in 9/11, BG. "Hardball" response? No, a it's BRAINLESS response.

We just plucked these people in Gitmo off the street, some in the U.S., tortured and held them. Ooh, we're so hard, or maybe just idiots. We'll never know if these people are criminals or not.

9/11 didn't transform the whole world into a perpetual French battlefield circa 1941, you geniuses, no matter what Chief Justice Roberts and Bill Kristol say. You can't just hold these people plucked off the street indefinitely. Duh.

"we can stop killing and torture, if we just do some killing and torture.

then, if they kill or torture us again, we'll kill or torture them to show that we will not stand for being killed or tortured.

then, and only then, will we be free from a world of killing and torture. and if terrorists think they can kill us more, think again. we will double-kill them. if they torture us, we will extra-torture them.

then, by god, we'll have peace. and if anybody attacks us, we'll kill them until they're peaceful. because we, as you know, are a peaceful people.

with the largest military budget in the world and the most nuclear weapons. and by the way, if any other countries want nuclear weapons, they can't have them. unless they buy the tech form us. if they don't, then they'rea terrorist state and we will attack them pre-emptively until they're peaceful."

Very well said ecohuman.