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Friday, May 16, 2008

You thought drinking the Willamette was bad

Try a glass of this.

Posted at 12:26 AM | Permalink

Comments (9)

The bone heads might look at desalination of the ocean that is out their front door. Last I heard the Aussies were working on such using solar and had made some great progress.

Posted by Michael H. Wilson | May 16, 2008 5:29 AM

Since all the water there is has, in an important sense, always been here, it's probably best not to think too hard about exactly where it's been.

Posted by Allan L. | May 16, 2008 7:18 AM

The thought of drinking treated sewage is not pretty but truth is the technology is there to make it safe.

Posted by Darrin | May 16, 2008 8:27 AM

"truth is the technology is there to make it safe."

Really, how to they filter out trace drugs and things like synthetic hormones? I don't think you can de-chlorinate this out. Once this stuff gets in the water system, it does take a while to get out.

Posted by Steve | May 16, 2008 10:34 AM

Steve, its not so much modern chemicals as modern chemistry. If you have enough money and electricity you can turn any source of water into very safe drinking water. The trick is that the dirtier the water the more expensive it tends to become. Also it is my understanding that these plants are multi step processes. There are several levels of filtration that get increasingly smaller and smaller particulates out. Then they may or may no chlorinate the water (if it is in the US they probably chlorinate, if it is in Europe they probably don't, some cultural aversion to a chemical that claimed millions of young lives in WWI)Then they may use either a form of osmosis or electrolysis to remove the water from whats left. They may also use carbon filters after that.

as Darrin said, there is technology that can make it safe, it just can get very expensive. But look around the world, clean water is becoming scarce, and people are coming up with ways of cleaning what they have to survive.

Posted by Young and maybe stupid | May 16, 2008 10:55 AM

drinking (treated) sewage is common throughout the country.

but, as much as 80% of the water we use is never consumed--it's used in the bathroom, kitchen and the yard.

now, imagine Los Angeles in about ten years or so with another one million (projected) people.

but don't worry, folks--the free market will sort it all out.

Posted by ecohuman.com | May 16, 2008 11:00 AM

but, as much as 80% of the water we use is never consumed--it's used in the bathroom, kitchen and the yard.

Maybe 80% of yours; not mine. We use greywater in the lawn and gardens.

Posted by max | May 16, 2008 1:46 PM

Maybe 80% of yours; not mine. We use greywater in the lawn and gardens.

which is water you didn't (and don't) consume--falling in the 80% category, i think.

Posted by ecohuman.com | May 16, 2008 6:57 PM

I think I saw something on the local news not all that long ago about using water from the Tualatin, which isn't exactly crystal clear, for human consumption, too. Nothing could be worse than what I've been seeing on the news since the cyclone in Myanmar...people getting containers of murky water out of rivers and waterholes with dead animals floating nearby. What kind of world do we live in, anyway? It is beyond my comprehension of what is decently human, the way that government is prohibiting aid to their people.

Posted by MissKris | May 16, 2008 8:16 PM

In Vino Veritas

Robert Mondavi Solaire, Cabernet 2005
Castello Monaci, Liante, Salice Salentino 2006
Ricardo Santos, Malbec 2006
Quinta da Espiga, Tinto 2006
Charles Smith, Holy Cow Merlot 2006
Charles Smith, Boom Boom Syrah 2006
Charles Smith, The Honorable Pinot Gris 2007
Santa Rita, Cabernet Reserva 2005
King Estate, Pinot Gris 2007
Gloria, Douro, Tinto 2002
Bogle, Petite Sirah Port, Clarksburg 2005
Cardwell Hill, Pinot Noir 2004
Silkwood, Red Duet Cabernet-Syrah 2004
Portuga, Vinho Branco 2006, 2007
Osborne, Solaz 2004
Santa Rita, Cabernet, Reserva 2005
Penfold's, Koonunga Hill, Shiraz Cabernet 2006
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Cabernet, Indian Wells 2004
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Merlot, Horse Heaven Hills 2004
Hannah Nicole, Red 2004
Penfold's, Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet 2005
Protocolo, Red 2005
Woodbridge, Chardonnay 2006
Portuga, Vinho Branco 2006
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1998
Beaulieu, Cabernet, Rutherford 1996
Kirkland, Roogle Shiraz 2004
Garda, Classico Chiaretto
A to Z, Oregon Pinot Gris 2005
I Giusti & Zanza, Nemorino 2006
Treana, Marsanne-Viognier, Central Coast 2005
Fife, Syrah, "Stanford" 2000
B.R. Cohn, Silver Label Cabernet 2005
Marques de Casa Concha, Cabernet 2005
Santi, Sortesele Pinot Grigio 2006
Al Muvedre, Tinto Joven 2006
Layer Cake, Shiraz 2006
Gritti, Ca' Andrea, Umbria red 2005
Altos de Luzon, Jumilla 2004
Thomas Leithner, Zweigelt 2004
Cain Cuvee NV 3
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Merlot 2003
Meridian, Sauvignon Blanc 2005
Canoe Ridge, Merlot 2003
Paringa, Shiraz 2005
King Estate, Pinot Gris 2005
Canoe Ridge, Merlot 2003
Maculan, Pino & Toi 2005
Kris, Pinot Grigio 2006
Silvan Ridge, Pinot Gris 2006
Fife, Mendocino Syrah, "Stanford" 2000
Castle Rock, Cabernet, Paso Robles 2005
Willakenzie, Pinot Gris 2006
The Show, Cabernet 2005
Essencia Valdemar, Rioja Rose 2006
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Merlot, Horse Heaven Hills 2004
Beaulieu Vineyard. Napa Valley Cabernet 2004
Irony, Cabernet, Napa Valley 2003
Rosenblum, Petite Sirah, Heritage Clones 2005
Fra Guerau, Montsant 2002
Barefoot Chardonnay
Kana, Syrah 2004
Castell Salegg, Chardonnay, Alto Adige 2004
Fetish, The Watcher Shiraz 2004
Gold Note, Fair Play Zinfandel 2005
Chateau Ste. Michelle, Canoe Ridge Estate Cabernet 2003
Ponzi, Pinot Noir 2004
Red Diamond, Merlot 2003
Mateus, Rose
Benton Lane Pinot Noir 2004
Penya Cadiella Vins de Comtat 2003
Kamiak, Cellar Select Red 2003
Anselmi, San Vincenzo 2005
Rubrato, Aglianico dei Feudi di San Gregorio 2004
Le Grand Noir (Black Sheep) Cabernet-Shiraz
Woodbridge, Chardonnay 2005
Los Vascos, Cabernet, Reserve 2004
Jackaroo, Shiraz 2003
Paul Jaboulet Aine, Crozes Hermitage Syrah, "La Jalet," 2001
Paul Jaboulet Aine, Cotes du Rhone, "Parallele '45,'" 2003
Rolf Binder, Barossa Valley Shiraz 2003
Oyster Bay, Sauvignon Blanc 2006
Woodbridge Chardonnay 2005
Barnard & Griffin, Columbia Valley Cabernet 2004
Quinto do Carmo, Alentejano Red 2000
Forefathers, Alexander Valley Cabernet 2001

The Occasional Book

Oscar Hijuelos - Mr. Ives' Christmas
Madeline L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
Steven Hart - The Last Three Miles
David Sedaris - Me Talk Pretty One Day
Karen Armstrong - The Spiral Staircase
Charles Larson - The Portland Murders
Adrian Wojnarowski - The Miracle of St. Anthony
William H. Colby - Long Goodbye
Steven D. Stark - Meet the Beatles
Phil Stanford - Portland Confidential
Rick Moody - Garden State
Jonathan Schwartz - All in Good Time
David Sedaris - Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim
Anthony Holden - Big Deal
Robert J. Spitzer - The Spirit of Leadership
James McManus - Positively Fifth Street
Jeff Noon - Vurt

Road Work

Miles run year to date: 28
At this date last year: 102
Total run in 2007: 113
In 2006: 100
In 2005: 149
In 2004: 204
In 2003: 269