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Wednesday, May 7, 2008

Hillary's last day?

At this point there's no way that Hillary can gain the Democratic Presidential nomination without stealing it. Now, I wouldn't put it past her and Bill to give that a try, but they may drop out while they can still do so with some small shred of grace. They'll act like they're doing it for the good of the party, yada yada yada, but the harsh reality is, their campaign is out of money. And if there's one thing that motivates those two, it's that good old dough re mi.

Comments (32)

Man, I hope you're right...but I don't think you are. She's sure not talking like she's about to gracefully bow out. She doesn't seem to get the delegate math. I think she intends to take it all the way to Denver, but I predict that Howard Dean or somebody else talks her into standing down after the last primary.

That means, unfortunately, we have another month of this crap. And for what?

What I find a bit amazing is that if you can remember a year ago or so, it was a given that Hillary would be the democrat candidate. I even seem to remember that she had a heck of a financial chest to where it looked like anyone who wanted to challenge wouldn't be able to do much damage. Funny how things change. There again, don't count Hillary out just yet - the Clintons die hard.

I won't believe it till her head (and his!)is stuffed and mounted on the wall of past demo contenders.
Loved Tom Haden's column, btw.

I'm waiting for someone to report on the status of her loan to the campaign.

Wow, Indiana was so close it might have come down to Rush Limbaugh's Operation Windbag.

let's see, who do i choose:

(1) the Black, male, Ivy League millionaire lawyer with strong ties to monied power brokers that takes money from lobbyists and desperately wants a career in government, or

(2) the White, female, Ivy League millionaire lawyer with strong ties to monied power brokers that takes money from lobbyists and desperately wants a career in government?

decisions, decisions.

Wow - she just loaned her campaign another 6 Mil, according to the Times. On CNN last night, one of the pundits quipped that the Clinton's wouldn't "let a little thing like losing stand between them and running for president" or something to that effect. Indeed.

Party elder and former Clinton backer, Georger McGovern endorses Barrack and urges Hillary to call it quits.

Hillary should not quit now when there's only a few minor states left. Even if Obama wins many of the remaining non-super delegates, he still may not have the required number of non-supers for clear victory. It's up to the superdelegates, and these might get freed to vote Hillary at the convention.

The nice thing is the Clintons will probably be routing against Obuma in the general election, holding out hope for 2012. The other nice thing is if Clinton does make it out of the convention with the nod, there's going to be an awful lot of angry demos. Routing for political gridlock.

There are little signs Hillary's campaign is over. For one thing, Bill has started dating again.

The opera isn't over until the fat lady sings. It's not over until it's over. Obama isn't over the top on the delegate count yet. He's closer than Hillary, but he isn't there.

With short public attention spans and even shorter news cycles, there won't be any lasting damage to the democrats if Hillary forces the delegate contest to the end. The democrats will make their choice at the convention, they'll all sing Kumbaya, hug and kiss onstage, and move on with the campaign. (Of course, it would be fun to see Obama chasing Hillary around the stage for a handshake, ala Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy)

Anything can happen. Who knows? Maybe Obama has three or four more Reverend Wrights or 1960's terrorists in the closet. You just never know.

Nutz, she can't pull out yet, I changed affiliation to vote for her!

It would serve you right.

I think she is going through the motions now to raise money to pay back the loans to herself. If she starts signalling that it is over the money stops coming in so she has to keep saying all the things about fighting on.

I think the only race now is how much money can she raise before May 20th when it will be over, we should put the final nail in the coffin with Obama's 10 point win in Oregon.

Sure is nice to have all the righties fired up about their nominee!!

Pshh, us righties don't have a dog in this presidential fight.

Good one, Bill McD! You made my day.

Listening to Obama's speech in North Carolina yesterday, it sure sounded to me like he was setting the stage for an Obama/Clinton ticket. I am a Hillary supporter but if she truly cares about what's right for America and the democratic party, she should be willing to be VP. Obama should make the offer and they should start worrying about McCain.

Hillary canceled her appearances this morning, but that was just to give her time to hitchhike to West Virginia.

I think Eric k has it right: She's staying in to wrap things up with as much money back to her personal slush fund as possible.

So I was all ready to announce Hills dead but then I listened to Bill O'Reilly and Lars pronounce her dead. Damn I hate it when I have to agree with those guys.

I still think the Dems win this fall but Obama will be easier for McCain to defeat than Barak. Hopefully he doesn't have any more Rev Wright's laying around. What am I saying. Even if he doesn't the Repubs will make up a few.

It makes absolutley no sense for Hillary to run as Obama's VP candidate. She has more power and they can make more money doing speeches if she's a US Senator.

Greg C

I heard that Rosie, Oprah and Carnie Wilson will be singing toady.

I still think the Dems win this fall but Obama will be easier for McCain to defeat than Barak. Hopefully he doesn't have any more Rev Wright's laying around. What am I saying. Even if he doesn't the Repubs will make up a few.

Oh, that's rich. McCain is barely breaking even with them in the national polls, and he hasn't had a negative ad run against him in months. He didn't even break 80% of the vote in his own uncontested primary in North Carolina last night!

McCain has a lot of work to do just to win over his own party. I would like to see another poll from dems though on how they'll vote. One a while back showed a significant amount saying they wouldnt vote Hillary or Obama either.

Where is a good independent canidate?

On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there a contest here?'

I am a Hillary supporter but if she truly cares about what's right for America and the democratic party, she should be willing to be VP. Obama should make the offer and they should start worrying about McCain.

Why? she has way more power as senator.
And I think it would make more Obama supporters turn away if she was on the ticket as VP.

There's no way HRC wants to be vice anything.

"On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship."

You know there is a joke in there somewhere but I don't think it's repeatable in polite company.

Greg C

Ps. Thanks to all those folks who politely didn't point out that in my above post I have Barak running against Obama for the Dem nomination.

To, ahem, correct a irresponsible misaprehension that has been widely promulgated against me on the internet, Barak Obama will probably win the Presidency but would be easier than Hillary for McCain to defeat.

On Lehrer News Hour, Marks Shields just said that Hillary won't drop out early until and unless Obama pays off her campaign loans!

Now, that's a Clinton move. Money grubbers.

How much longer do you think they'll be senator from New York? A year, maybe two at most.

It's long been my dream that Hillary becomes president by illegal and illegitimate means, going on to run the most corrupt and irresponsible administration in American history.
There's still hope!
Failing that, Obama will be a fine president.

if Hillary really, REALLY wants to be President, and I have heard that she does, then there are a few paths to the office... including the one taken by about 15-20% of previous Presidents.

John Nance Garner was correct about the Vice Presidency, but notwithstanding his famous quote, many Vice Presidents have replaced dead or resigned Presidents, sad as that may be. Going back decades, JFK gave his position to his VP, as did Nixon. And Ford, Carter and Reagan all had assassination attempts made against them while in office, although Carter's was only a half-hearted attempt made by a deranged killer rabbit.

Would somebody actually make an attempt against President Obama? Hillary must have already calculated the odds, and weighed it against all the other possible options.


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