It will help if we don't confuse Immigrants with Illegal Aliens as there is a great difference.

The answer is simple. Strong enforcement, swift deportation and employer sanctions. While were at it, we might want to fix our busted immigration system.

I recently celebrated with a friend who earned his citizenship two weeks ago. This man had been carrying a green card for 14 years, waiting in line for the opportunity while his wife & son resided in Mexico City. 14 YEARS! Gotta admire the guy for going about it the right way, but it's no wonder so many circumvent the legal route.

The folks who got prison time here deserved it. If you or I had committed fraud by falsifying documnets to gain employment, we would probably get prison time also. The injustice here is that the owners of the plant will probably get NO prison time.

Personally I'm for open borders from Baffin Bayin the north to Tierra del Fuego in the south.

There is however, a court ruling from Connecticut, if my recall is correct, that struck down residency requirements for welfare. That ruling needs to be changed. Wish I could recall the name of the ruling, but I cannot.

What matters is that we hand down to future generations a society based on civil liberties.

MW

Look, either we have laws, or we dont. And frankly, it has gotten enough out of hand it should become a criminal matter instead of a civil one.

A friend of mine here just got a new job, imagine her surprise when they ran her SSN and she found out she was actually six different hispanic men living in six different locations in the US.

Gee and just in time for the Presidential election too. Who da thunk that after almost 8 years of ignoring this issue the Republicans finally "get tough" on immigration.

Now has anyone calculated the cost of actually jailing the millions of illegal immigrants we have in this country?

Can we all say "Political Stunt" boys and girls.

Greg C

Yes, Bush ignored the issue for 7+ years (read up a bit, will ya Greg?). And the Congress also ignored the issue, especially that McCain guy, and Tancredo as well.

So now, Greg's logic dictates that we ignore it because of the election season.

I much prefer Joe's logic:
"The answer is simple. Strong enforcement, swift deportation and employer sanctions."

Illegal Immigrants are not the same as Legal Immigrants... Get over your ignorance about the two.

Illegal Immigrants are not the same as Legal Immigrants... Get over your ignorance about the two.

In general, only one side confuses the two, and it is not the side that wants our laws enforced.

"So now, Greg's logic dictates that we ignore it because of the election season."

I don't know how you got that from my comments. All I was saying was that this is a politcal stunt trying to shore up Republican support with the "Reagan Democrats" part of the electorate.

I do think we are unlikely to get anything other than smoke and mirrors from both parties until after the election. And that something on the order of the Kennedy-McCain bill is most likely the kind of reform we get after the election.

Greg C

"Look, either we have laws, or we dont. And frankly, it has gotten enough out of hand it should become a criminal matter instead of a civil one."

I'm probably as against illegal immigration as one can be, but I have to ask this question. Do you think we should be locking them up here, or sending them back? Unless they commit serious crimes (murder, rape, etc.) I don't believe we should be picking up the corrections tab.

Between punishing employers (including revoking business licenses), deporting those we find (with all government agencies cooperating), sealing our border (and not with a unpatrolled chain link fence), and fixing our broken legal immigration system, we have the correct formula. We just need to use it...

If it's an election year stunt, it's the same one that BOTH sides bandied about in 06. And gee, nothing new since then. I think there is enough blame to go around for Bush and Pelosi / Reid.

"A friend of mine here just got a new job, imagine her surprise when they ran her SSN and she found out she was actually six different hispanic men living in six different locations in the US."

I have to wonder what if these immigrants weren't paying Soc. Security taxes how that would impact the system.

MW

You're thinking that the Repugnantcans will cut off the source of cheap labor for employers nationwide?

Yeah, riiiiiight.

These are the people who represent the interests of employers disproportionately.

Hey...I've got this bridge...

"I have to wonder what if these immigrants weren't paying Soc. Security taxes how that would impact the system."

I'd be curious too since a lot of them are probably working on a cash basis or more than reported hours. HOwever, I don't think it will change the fact that Soc Security is screwed up and the worst invetment ever for anyone under 55.

While we are at it, we should figure the cost of medical and schooling ($10K per student) provided.