I'm a die hard. I'm still hoping John Edwards emerges as the only mutually acceptable candidate of a dead locked convention.

Mulligans are useful.

Al Gore just prolonged his demise a bit longer by playing up the global warming doom and gloom message.

Peer-Reviewed Articles Skeptical Of Man-Caused Global Warming
Here are many "Peer-Reviewed" articles that should end the belief that "the debate is over" about global warming. It should also destroy the illusion that there is a "consensus" amongst scientists about the causes of global warming. Those propagating the myth of man-caused global warming are simply distorting reality and the facts.....and that is putting it politely.
Peter

See:
http://petesplace-peter.blogspot.com/2008/04/peer-reviewed-articles-skeptical-of-man.html

Dissent is patriotic unless you are questioning the global warming scam. AlWhore has made a comfortable living flying around the world on his jet preaching his lie!

Loved Gore's rocket shoes. Perhaps a bit environmentally askew, but a funny image nevertheless.

Dissent is patriotic unless you are questioning the global warming scam

dissent is patriotic unless you are questioning:

* the owning of handguns and assault rifles.
* the actions of George Bush.
* the war in Iraq.
* the building of bigger freeways.
* the connection between Big Oil, Bush and environmental decisions.

and so on.

I find it amusing how totally unhinged some people become at the mention of Al Gore or global warming.

Using the most basic logic, I can't see what the incentive would be for people to "create" a global warming problem where none exists.

On the other hand, there would seem to be huge financial reasons why certain interests would want you to believe global warming is a hoax.

"Using the most basic logic, I can't see what the incentive would be for people to "create" a global warming problem where none exists."

Ever heard of carbon trading? It's an Enron-esque scam and AlGore is one of the main benefactors.

Furthermore, smart-growth and sustainability are based on the same skewed logic. No money interests there, huh?

dissent is patriotic unless you are questioning:

* the owning of handguns and assault rifles.
* the actions of George Bush.
* the war in Iraq.
* the building of bigger freeways.
* the connection between Big Oil, Bush and environmental decisions.

and so on.

Well gee, some of that might be right. What does that have to do with the fact that pdxjim is clearly referring to the AGW nazis who, more than likely, wholeheartedly approve of "questioning" the items on your litany.

You see, son, you're confused and have not addressed his point at all.

Unless, of course, you believe that one bad action excuses another - which seems unlike you, as far as I can tell.

I could be wrong.

"Using the most basic logic, I can't see what the incentive would be for people to "create" a global warming problem where none exists."

Are you serious? Al Gore would be out of a job, and many many millions poorer. I read today that carbon trading is now a $60 BILLION dollar industry worldwide. I'm sure the environmentalists would jump on board even if they didn't believe the science because they see the 'solutions' to global warming improving the environment as a whole (which I agree with, and support). The thing I do not support is doom and gloom lies such as 'the debate is over' and implying the world is going to end unless YOU recycle and buy a Prius (despite what the BILLIONS of people in China and India are doing). This entire thing has created a brand new 'green' industry, which brings billions. Imagine if the human-global warming connection were disproved how much money those people would lose. It's in their best interest to continue to propagate the myth. I like your name, but disagree with your logic ;)

I could be wrong.

cc, we should all have that in our signature line.

Are you serious? Al Gore would be out of a job, and many many millions poorer. I read today that carbon trading is now a $60 BILLION dollar industry worldwide. I'm sure the environmentalists would jump on board

Joey, i consider myself an "environmentalist", and I don't believe in carbon trading.

i don't use the term "global warming", either, because it's inadequate and makes it all about temperature--not the change and destabilization that it's really about.

it gets harder when you can't make it all black and white, good/bad, liberal/conservative, doesn't it?

man, i'm tired of the labels.

Chris McMullen: Ever heard of carbon trading? It's an Enron-esque scam and AlGore is one of the main benefactors.

What a joke. Al Gore is behind the conspiracy aka "carbon trading". LOL. First of all, I doubt very few people are making Enron-esque money on carbon trading. If you have any sources to cite, I'm very interested to look into it. Maybe I'm wrong?

Joey Link: Al Gore would be out of a job...

You see what I'm saying about people coming completely unhinged at the slightest mention of Al Gore?

Anyone who thinks the most significant part of Al Gore's income comes from his involvement in global warming needs to recycle his tinfoil hat. Like most high-profile politicos, Gore's finances benefit much more from his involvement with the likes of Google, Apple and big $$$ investment funds.

Take a breath. Al Gore isn't hurting you.

it gets harder when you can't make it all black and white, good/bad, liberal/conservative, doesn't it?

man, i'm tired of the labels.

I think that's something you'll have to get used to, man. For better or worse, that's what people do. One-on-one dynamics can't be practically extrapolated to work with groups. Without labels, categorization, pigeonholing, stereotyping - whatever you call it - it's unmanageable. It's the way we are. Human tendencies may be dismaying, but ignore them at your peril.

You use the term "Big Oil"; what's that? What's "assault rifle" if not code? Sure it would be nice if we could all just get along, but, in the interim (which may be a long time), we need to deal with reality. The reality is that 99.9% of people on this particular planet use "labels".

If change is your goal, it needs to come from within the parameters of human nature.

There's no Deus in the machina - just us.

Without labels, categorization, pigeonholing, stereotyping - whatever you call it - it's unmanageable. It's the way we are. Human tendencies may be dismaying, but ignore them at your peril.

nah. it's just inconvenient, more difficult, requires more effort. and if we didn't try to be better than we are, why bother with anything, really?

If change is your goal, it needs to come from within the parameters of human nature.

whatever "human nature" is. human nature devised both guns--whose purpose is only fulfilled through destruction--but also devised compassion, whose purpose is only fulfilled by the opposite.

Joey, if you're too insular to actually research Gore's carbon trading firm, it's not my problem. Go ahead and keep your head in the sand.

Even with Gore out of the picture, the "climate change" alarmists stand to make big bucks from this movement. But you obviously have already drunk the Koolaid.

You use the term "Big Oil"; what's that? What's "assault rifle" if not code?

and those refer to inanimate objects: corporations and weapons. i'm talking about humans.

and, of course, assault rifles were built for, well, military assaulting. not for duck hunting, target practice, or mowing the grass.

Even with Gore out of the picture, the "climate change" alarmists stand to make big bucks from this movement.

i believe in the climate change crisis. i'm still waiting for my check. earnings so far: $0.

I believe that climate is changing too. But I think its a natural cycle. And I think it is extremly egocentric for humans to think we had anything to do with it, and naive to think we can control it.

Then you have the morons that think hydrogen cars are going to save us. The emissions are water vapor...which is a bigger greenhouse gas than CO2.

What happened to the old saying "you can't mess with Mother Nature?"