Union Station would be perfect....I am sure the Brie people can share the space...WHAT IS THE MATTER with the leaders of Portland....?
oh yeah...Saturday Market isn't connected to streetcars or condos..grrrrrr
Do you have any ACTUAL evidence that anything other than an extended timeline is afoot? Do you have any ACTUAL evidence that the Market won't be in a specially designed area when construction is finished?
O.k., Mr. City Employee (ORS 260.432(2)), you tell me where they're going to be all next year. And tell me how they'll survive not one but two moves -- both potentially over a long distance.
BTW, if you keep SHOUTING over here, you'll be "filed" under "403 Forbidden" again.
The CoP is always presenting itself as "pro business", when in fact thay are not. Most of our leaders have had their paunches pushed up against the public trough for so long (sometimes always) they wouldn't know a real business if it hit them head on in broad daylight!
Very few businesses could survive one major move let alone 2 in 18 months.
But kathe w is correct...the market predates the condos, trolleys and trams.
All I can say is yawn. I don't know the reasons for teh delay but I do know it will hurt the market. on the other hand, the market does not appeal to me or my friends. it seems to appeal mostly to tourists and my old friends from college who visit it out of nostalgia. The greasy food, smoke stench and cheesy goofy trinkets really hold no appeal.
On the other hand, I agree wholeheartedly that the CoP is if not intentionally anti-small business, it is certainly making no effort to foster small business beyond the "trickle down" that supposedly takes place when Homer Williams and his ilk get a subsidy from the city.
I don't necessarily agree that the CoP has intended to make things hard for the Market. In fact, I don;t think they do that to any small business. But the actions the city takes in many many areas makes it tough to do business in this city, whether you be a small law firm, a small automotive shop or a barber.
Just watch what happens on the inner east side over the next few years. Even if we go into a recession/depression, when we come out of it Custom Stamping, the woodworking shops, McGuire Bearing and all the others: their days are numbered.
And I am so looking forward to more generic condo towers and boutique shopes and a Whole Paycheck grocery store! Who needs family wages and a strong manufacturing and light industrial base when we cna have a service industry based "economy?"
How about that park between SW Third and Fourth avenues, from Jefferson street to Salmon street?
Transportation there is kind of a bummer, but it's more spacious than Pioneer Courthouse Square. Plus, it's got public restrooms and wifi!
(And while this was originally intended as a sarcastic suggestion to put it across the street from city hall, the existing public loos and extensive paths - along with the park's history as a gathering place - actually make it a pretty decent interim choice.)
I've always been amazed by the city's attitude towards business. I doubt that they are intentionally anti-business but their policy tends to be a "death by paper cuts" approach. The problem is that most city leaders are career civil servants and have been insulated from the burden of compliance with the numerous regulations.
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Comments (11)
Why not move it to Union Station? Shucks... the brie people got there first...
Posted by Jack Bog | September 5, 2007 7:24 PM
Union Station would be perfect....I am sure the Brie people can share the space...WHAT IS THE MATTER with the leaders of Portland....?
oh yeah...Saturday Market isn't connected to streetcars or condos..grrrrrr
Posted by kathe w. | September 5, 2007 8:06 PM
It's likely that the COP will soon announce a new "temporary" location in the compost yard off NE 33rd next to Dignity Village.
Posted by daveg | September 5, 2007 8:10 PM
Do you have any ACTUAL evidence that anything other than an extended timeline is afoot? Do you have any ACTUAL evidence that the Market won't be in a specially designed area when construction is finished?
File under Wild Speculation...
Posted by torridjoe | September 5, 2007 8:57 PM
O.k., Mr. City Employee (ORS 260.432(2)), you tell me where they're going to be all next year. And tell me how they'll survive not one but two moves -- both potentially over a long distance.
BTW, if you keep SHOUTING over here, you'll be "filed" under "403 Forbidden" again.
Posted by Jack Bog | September 5, 2007 11:04 PM
The CoP is always presenting itself as "pro business", when in fact thay are not. Most of our leaders have had their paunches pushed up against the public trough for so long (sometimes always) they wouldn't know a real business if it hit them head on in broad daylight!
Very few businesses could survive one major move let alone 2 in 18 months.
But kathe w is correct...the market predates the condos, trolleys and trams.
Posted by wise lady | September 6, 2007 7:28 AM
All I can say is yawn. I don't know the reasons for teh delay but I do know it will hurt the market. on the other hand, the market does not appeal to me or my friends. it seems to appeal mostly to tourists and my old friends from college who visit it out of nostalgia. The greasy food, smoke stench and cheesy goofy trinkets really hold no appeal.
On the other hand, I agree wholeheartedly that the CoP is if not intentionally anti-small business, it is certainly making no effort to foster small business beyond the "trickle down" that supposedly takes place when Homer Williams and his ilk get a subsidy from the city.
I don't necessarily agree that the CoP has intended to make things hard for the Market. In fact, I don;t think they do that to any small business. But the actions the city takes in many many areas makes it tough to do business in this city, whether you be a small law firm, a small automotive shop or a barber.
Just watch what happens on the inner east side over the next few years. Even if we go into a recession/depression, when we come out of it Custom Stamping, the woodworking shops, McGuire Bearing and all the others: their days are numbered.
And I am so looking forward to more generic condo towers and boutique shopes and a Whole Paycheck grocery store! Who needs family wages and a strong manufacturing and light industrial base when we cna have a service industry based "economy?"
Posted by Simon | September 6, 2007 8:08 AM
How about that park between SW Third and Fourth avenues, from Jefferson street to Salmon street?
Transportation there is kind of a bummer, but it's more spacious than Pioneer Courthouse Square. Plus, it's got public restrooms and wifi!
(And while this was originally intended as a sarcastic suggestion to put it across the street from city hall, the existing public loos and extensive paths - along with the park's history as a gathering place - actually make it a pretty decent interim choice.)
Posted by Alan DeWitt | September 6, 2007 9:37 AM
I've always been amazed by the city's attitude towards business. I doubt that they are intentionally anti-business but their policy tends to be a "death by paper cuts" approach. The problem is that most city leaders are career civil servants and have been insulated from the burden of compliance with the numerous regulations.
Posted by Kevin | September 6, 2007 10:09 AM
"death by paper cuts"
says it all!
Posted by rr | September 6, 2007 11:40 AM
Ah, Simon, you hit the nail on the head again. I've been trying to make those same points to people for many years.
Posted by Cabbieskwatawa | September 6, 2007 5:39 PM